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 An Actual Englishman wrote:
We know the level of PA 'buff' to expect from the first book and the Eldar reactions. It won't take any faction to the level of nu-Marines, apart from, presumably, other marines. Listening to recent podcasts of the various playtesters all but confirms this.

I wouldn't expect or want Sisters to be the same level as nu-Marines because, frankly, nu-Marines are overpowered and should be nerfed. Not to mention that slowly adding other overpowered factions into the mix just pisses off those who are last to the party. If Sisters are on the same level does that make the game much better? Is having 2 factions OP way better than 1? I don't think so. Certainly not for those people who don't play those factions.


Which Podcasts? I'd like to listen and see what they are saying.

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Have we covered the rumours in the Faeit's blog?

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2019/11/chaos-rumors-point-reductions-added.html

In short:

- Cult troops get +1W
- Basic CSM get pt reduction to rival loyalists
- WL traits, relics and strats in the book will be good improvement and capture all legions in the Dex that have since missed love (WE, AL, EC etc)

- 10,000 pts CSM  
   
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You mean besides the circular firing squad going on over in this thread here?

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/782190.page
   
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Semper wrote:
Have we covered the rumours in the Faeit's blog?

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2019/11/chaos-rumors-point-reductions-added.html

In short:

- Cult troops get +1W
- Basic CSM get pt reduction to rival loyalists
- WL traits, relics and strats in the book will be good improvement and capture all legions in the Dex that have since missed love (WE, AL, EC etc)


This is from me at my Hexfleet Virules Facebook page. Some jackass took my post and carefully cropped out my page name and references and then spread that all over Discord. I mentioned on the B&C what happened (where I post under the username Lagrath), after which Spikey Bits and Faet reposted the cropped picture and referenced my B&C handle rather than my page, hah.

   
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Sterling191 wrote:
You mean besides the circular firing squad going on over in this thread here?

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/782190.page


Apparently so!

Credit to Virules then!

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 Virules wrote:
Semper wrote:
Have we covered the rumours in the Faeit's blog?

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2019/11/chaos-rumors-point-reductions-added.html

In short:

- Cult troops get +1W
- Basic CSM get pt reduction to rival loyalists
- WL traits, relics and strats in the book will be good improvement and capture all legions in the Dex that have since missed love (WE, AL, EC etc)


This is from me at my Hexfleet Virules Facebook page. Some jackass took my post and carefully cropped out my page name and references and then spread that all over Discord. I mentioned on the B&C what happened (where I post under the username Lagrath), after which Spikey Bits and Faet reposted the cropped picture and referenced my B&C handle rather than my page, hah.

1. Tell them to cite you correctly
2. How reliable is your rumor person?

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If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

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ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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Preorder on the 16th (as opposed to the 23rd in the leaked list)

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Loving that trailer

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Loving that trailer


indeed. looks like the plot is going to be pretty typical. "this world, which you've never heard of before but we assure you is important, is under threat, it's bravely fighting against *insert enemy here* but may not be able to hold on... HURRAH THE SPACE MARINES HAVE COME TO TURN THE TIDE!" but it'll be a good read I'm sure

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BrianDavion wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Loving that trailer


indeed. looks like the plot is going to be pretty typical. "this world, which you've never heard of before but we assure you is important, is under threat, it's bravely fighting against *insert enemy here* but may not be able to hold on... HURRAH THE SPACE MARINES HAVE COME TO TURN THE TIDE!" but it'll be a good read I'm sure


Sadly I think the plot will be as weak as you say but I liked the portrayal of everyone.


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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Loving that trailer


Eh.
I figured the wacky voice was going to be the tech priest, but it turned out just to be a normal guy (as far as imperial cardinals go)

Kinda odd to see the Black Templar and Sister be the rational ones, though at least Bald Inquisitor has calmed the feth down from her earlier meth-fueled panic attacks.

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 Marshal Loss wrote:



Preorder on the 16th (as opposed to the 23rd in the leaked list)


2 week preorder maybe? The leaks were release dates

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Regarding the voices, I very often hear 40K characters as Balkan or Eastern when I read them (cos I like to). This is actually the first time I've heard a character in one of their trailers, the Sister, have such an accent, instead of the RP English that they go with for 96.4% of their (human) characters. So thumbs up from me to whoever produced this one, well done
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Loving that trailer


indeed. looks like the plot is going to be pretty typical. "this world, which you've never heard of before but we assure you is important, is under threat, it's bravely fighting against *insert enemy here* but may not be able to hold on... HURRAH THE SPACE MARINES HAVE COME TO TURN THE TIDE!" but it'll be a good read I'm sure



You just described every piece of fiction to ever be associated to 40k.

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 Mr Morden wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Loving that trailer


indeed. looks like the plot is going to be pretty typical. "this world, which you've never heard of before but we assure you is important, is under threat, it's bravely fighting against *insert enemy here* but may not be able to hold on... HURRAH THE SPACE MARINES HAVE COME TO TURN THE TIDE!" but it'll be a good read I'm sure


Sadly I think the plot will be as weak as you say but I liked the portrayal of everyone.



keep in mind my summery is cliche but that doesn't nesscarily mean it's bad, that can summerize most major conflcits in 40k. Including Armageddon (which IMHO has been one of the better written warzones GW's done)

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JWBS wrote:
Regarding the voices, I very often hear 40K characters as Balkan or Eastern when I read them (cos I like to). This is actually the first time I've heard a character in one of their trailers, the Sister, have such an accent, instead of the RP English that they go with for 96.4% of their (human) characters. So thumbs up from me to whoever produced this one, well done


Wrong on all counts, ignore me.

Love that sister cutting off the priest though. Ain't got time for yer gak bro.

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Voss wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Loving that trailer


Eh.
I figured the wacky voice was going to be the tech priest, but it turned out just to be a normal guy (as far as imperial cardinals go)

Kinda odd to see the Black Templar and Sister be the rational ones, though at least Bald Inquisitor has calmed the feth down from her earlier meth-fueled panic attacks.


Well Marines and Battle Sisters are practical and hardened veterans of war as well as true believers - hysterical civilians are just annoyances once the shooting starts.

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Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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ERJAK wrote:
 Marshal Loss wrote:



Preorder on the 16th (as opposed to the 23rd in the leaked list)


2 week preorder maybe? The leaks were release dates


Possible I suppose given the Sisters of Battle box was meant to be released alongside it. But they might have shifted it to avoid having 2 PA books in 2 weeks, which did seem a bit silly

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I'm loving the D-tier voice acting. Visuals show shouting, angry peeps, VAs have a range of "bored secretary telling you the boss is busy" to "old man upset there's no buffet tonight".
I don't mean it sarcastically either, it has exactly the level of quality I remember from those 90's video games GW licensed to SSI, so it makes me nostalgic

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The trailer was very spritied. Like that.

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Well if they want me to pre order it by next weekend they better start previewing some rules.

Good sign that night lords are mentioned in the video. Don't know why they'd be working with the chaos bothering word bearers though.

Oh well might be time to start sharpening the old flaying knives
   
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well that marine is going in with very bad intel cause there's 3 more traitor legions on that planet or are the heretics planning another Isstvan moment.
   
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nagash42 wrote:
well that marine is going in with very bad intel cause there's 3 more traitor legions on that planet or are the heretics planning another Isstvan moment.

Hey it worked the first time.

And if the alpha legion is involved then sneakieness is a high probability.
   
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nagash42 wrote:
well that marine is going in with very bad intel cause there's 3 more traitor legions on that planet or are the heretics planning another Isstvan moment.


or the other traitor legions show up later.

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Based on that small little datasheet on the Community article, it doesn't look like Helbrecht is getting any changes. That's a shame.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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Semper wrote:
Have we covered the rumours in the Faeit's blog?

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2019/11/chaos-rumors-point-reductions-added.html

In short:

- Cult troops get +1W
- Basic CSM get pt reduction to rival loyalists
- WL traits, relics and strats in the book will be good improvement and capture all legions in the Dex that have since missed love (WE, AL, EC etc)


I really hope this rumor is wrong, as GW presented it as the CSM "supplement equivalent" to the loyalist marines, but if there is no upgraded traits or equivilant to doctrines, then its very much not going to equalize even with this. meaning CSM either remains stuck as inferior until round 3, and only then try again-or wait for yet ANOTHER book.

Not to mention 2W cult marines makes me somewhat sad, as the rubrics gain very little from it compared to other cult marines (being a plasma bait already), and I'm a tzeentcher.

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 BoomWolf wrote:
Semper wrote:
Have we covered the rumours in the Faeit's blog?

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2019/11/chaos-rumors-point-reductions-added.html

In short:

- Cult troops get +1W
- Basic CSM get pt reduction to rival loyalists
- WL traits, relics and strats in the book will be good improvement and capture all legions in the Dex that have since missed love (WE, AL, EC etc)


I really hope this rumor is wrong, as GW presented it as the CSM "supplement equivalent" to the loyalist marines, but if there is no upgraded traits or equivilant to doctrines, then its very much not going to equalize even with this. meaning CSM either remains stuck as inferior until round 3, and only then try again-or wait for yet ANOTHER book.

Not to mention 2W cult marines makes me somewhat sad, as the rubrics gain very little from it compared to other cult marines (being a plasma bait already), and I'm a tzeentcher.


Didn't Rubrics always used to be 2W marines? Thought they had kept that when they got the new book.

And as always, "supplement equivalent" means like the supplements, what they added compared to the main book - it's just a bit of extra flavour, not a re-balancing to make them equal.
   
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Why does everybody think "supplement level" means doctrines + enhanced traits? Those are both things added by the codex, not the supplement.
All the supplements add are... stratagems, relics, warlord traits... you know, like what Black Legion got in Vigilus.
Expecting anything more than that based on "supplement level" seems really strange.
   
 
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