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GW have specifically said that the GME box is a core product, and that there will be a reprint of the set in 2019. This just looks very much a case of them wanting to avoid another Dreadfleet debacle.

I'd also be very surprised not to see some kind of discounted maniple box once the other titan variants are out. An Axiom set for example could be a Warlord, Reaver and 2 Warhounds for under £100.
   
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 midget_overlord wrote:
I hope they make another bundle when chrisms time comes around, grand master edition V2.

By them more units will be available (and hopefully weapon sprues and upgrades!) and players will have bought the rules bu then.

A box with terrain, a warlord, reaver, and a pair of war hounds would be awesome. Sprinkle knights in there if needs be to complete the box.



It'll just be the GME again. They've said so already.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
GW did inform retailers (at least some of them) last week on the same day as store orders went live,

the facebook model retail I use shared the emails from his rep saying there was a limit of 20 per store with perhaps minor discression

he then spent the rest of the day negotiating with the rep on the phone and finally ended up with 30

I fear element games oversold, perhaps in the hope they'd get more stock, perhaps because they didn't confirm the with their rep fast enough to realise what they were doing


See that's what has me doubting the overselling angle - if it was one of the smaller outfits, sure, or one with a shonky reputation when it comes to stock management, OK, but Element? They're a huge outfit(in the pond they swim in), their stock management is typically great, and they've dealt with loads of GW's limited release products in the past - I struggle to accept that they managed to significantly oversell, intentionally or otherwise.

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Justyn wrote:
I see it still available from any place I have ordered from before.


That doesn't necessarily mean much. Retailers will gladly take your pre-order and then tell you it's on backorder in the hopes that you'll do the lazy thing and simply keep your pre-order with them and wait for resupply rather than cancel your pre-order and take your chances elsewhere.

I ended up pre-ordering through Miniatures Market, but if they tell me i'm on a wait list then i'll simply cancel my pre-order. This was something of a grudging impulse buy for me at any rate.
   
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 Kirasu wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
 Kirasu wrote:
One of the largest Legios during the Heresy was around 176 engines... so 200+ seems a bit much considering the breakup of much of the Imperium's armed forces into smaller units after the Heresy. Not to mention the difficulty in building new Titans. Of course, this doesn't take into account MarySue Cawl who can probably build thousands of Titans in a few days.



give it a rest.


I apologize if proper lore offends you.


Proper lore doesn't offend me, but it sounds like any new lore offends you. take the ranting about Cawl (show us on the doll where he touched you) to an approperate thread. I'm getting tired of hearing of people ranting about it. Mostly people whom haven't read the limited and still developing lore that is out there. Frankly if you're expecting good writing go do yourself a favor and stop playing Warhammer, it's pulp.


I tend to agree that a good percentage of 40K fluff these days is trash. I still remember reading on a forum somewhere about Necrons teaming up with my beloved Blood Angels (I wasn't even into the hobby at that time but still found it offensive). I won't bore you with my negative opinion on BL, except to say that many of their "Top talent" seem to write about 5 books a year, and it really shows (that it's terrible, and that people will still buy it). To be fair I'm really not in the age demographic for BL "Novels" now, but having said that, a lot of the old (GW) stuff still holds up, and a lot of the new and newish stuff is also fantastic (my favourites being the =][= 54mm rulebook, such a great book overall for fluff and writing, and Liber Chaotica, among others). I hope they put some decent people on AT. I really enjoyed Abnett's take on it (BL book called "Titanicus").


I really do not follow the new lore. I grew up on the original AT and SM1 games, so all I ever needed was in those two rulebooks. I know things need to be revised here and there, and newer fans wont have access to that older material, but I guess I am kind of a snob when it comes to the newer stuff. But I can't blame people for picking up the new material and reading about it. I just think some of the original stuff was priceless, even if they were shooting from the hip back then, and would prefer they don't drift too far away from the originals, that's all.

But yes, Blood Angels teaming up with Necrons seems desperate and ridiculous. How about a small brood of Tyranids and Ultramarines putting aside their problems to take on a massive Ork horde. Why not? I am someone would like it.


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 Strg Alt wrote:
Space Marine/Epic was imo the best game in the 40K setting. You had it all: Titans, infantry, bike, artillery and tank companies. Lots of different templates.


Amen brother. Although the rules were pretty ridiculous for some units, some trimming down and refining could be done. But overall the SM2/TL era was pretty magical. My heart lies in the AT/SM1 era, but as amazing as that system was in grit and detail, it took too long to play. Our typical large games took a few nights to play out, but we loved it. But we also had a basement to play in, where we could leave things be till the next time we met up.


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PLEASE: Does anyone who has this set already, namely the city terrain, do they have any of the old SM1/SM2 era infantry on the square bases? And if so, have they placed them on the roofs of the new buildings? It looks like those roofs are laid out in a way that they would fit a square base much like they would have in the old days. Amiright or amiright?

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I'd imagine they'll put any new Epic infantry on round bases.

/a weird aside, 60mm bases fit five 25mm bases reasonably well...
   
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Also lets not forget that GW is still near their production limit in keeping up with the plastics for other ranges; so a limited release of the big boxed set makes full sense.

This was an expensive boxed set to put together and even here on Dakka (where there is a heavier concentration of hobby mad people) there were worries that it just wouldn't sell (esp the big boxed game). GW made a sensible call in limiting that box and not overstocking.

Now it seems that they played it a little too safe, but that is fine. Remember the REST of the AT range is still in general production and will be sold from now on as normal. So you can still get all the bits that come in the box just not with the big box discount (barring a few special deals being offered one time only now by some 3rd party retailers).

For GW this is better than if it had gone the other way and they were left sitting on lots of very high-priced stock that wasn't selling and having to store it. Remembering that unpacking and repacking into smaller boxes would still have cost them.



In the end AT has sold REALLY well and that's great news. It means there's a very good chance of it lasting in the market ; of being good enough to generate further investment and development of the range itself. That means more titans; more knights; more terrain and hopefully advance of the story line for this range from Herasy to 41st!

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Isn't there a show-business thing about leaving people wanting more?
   
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 Nurglitch wrote:
Isn't there a show-business thing about leaving people wanting more?


Nah that’s hookers.

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From what I hear avenger Gatling cannons seem positively useless in the context of the game as it stands. Void shields are immune to them, and even the weakest titans are going to be too tough to do much damage to.
   
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changemod wrote:
From what I hear avenger Gatling cannons seem positively useless in the context of the game as it stands. Void shields are immune to them, and even the weakest titans are going to be too tough to do much damage to.

They're likely anti-knight or something
   
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Neronoxx wrote:
changemod wrote:
From what I hear avenger Gatling cannons seem positively useless in the context of the game as it stands. Void shields are immune to them, and even the weakest titans are going to be too tough to do much damage to.

They're likely anti-knight or something


They seem to be anti-infantry, which is neat for future proofing but dubious for now whilst only six arms come in a box of three knights.
   
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Neronoxx wrote:
changemod wrote:
From what I hear avenger Gatling cannons seem positively useless in the context of the game as it stands. Void shields are immune to them, and even the weakest titans are going to be too tough to do much damage to.

They're likely anti-knight or something


Right now they'd struggle against Knights too, needing 6s to "wound" and allowing them their highest shield save. They might be useful in finishing off crippled engines if the Knights can get around their flanks and shoot the weak bits. Nothing amazing though, which is a shame because they look awesome.

   
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Neronoxx wrote:
changemod wrote:
From what I hear avenger Gatling cannons seem positively useless in the context of the game as it stands. Void shields are immune to them, and even the weakest titans are going to be too tough to do much damage to.

They're likely anti-knight or something


Get them within 2" and they ignore voids and are +1 to hit. Get them into the side or rear arc and they become effectively Str4/Str5. Already weakened locations can add a further +1/+2/+3 to the roll.

Even Warlords can't just ignore them completely.

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Twin melee weapons and meltaguns FTW!

   
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In case you're wondering how the new Titan looks next to some true scale 6mm models:

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Legio? Those colours look boss.

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Ooo starts drooling at the idea of return of epic. That could get bloody expensive.

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Yeah, no interest in the game as it is, but people gobbling it up until we get a new Epic with lots of cute lil dudes going pew-pew at each other would be *very* fine with me.

Epic was getting clearanced locally while I got my first GW advertising magazine, so i never got a chance to start it.

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Both my GME orders cancelled so will be bypassing this until there is another value box, and two more retailers added to my list. . By all accounts multiple retailers have willfully ignored GW then tried to force them to send more stock. Going to be buying direct from GW soon...
   
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 Malika2 wrote:
In case you're wondering how the new Titan looks next to some true scale 6mm models:
Spoiler:


Every time someone posts pictures like this, it just makes me want some version of Epic to come back even faster!

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 Mysterio wrote:
 Malika2 wrote:
In case you're wondering how the new Titan looks next to some true scale 6mm models:
Spoiler:


Every time someone posts pictures like this, it just makes me want some version of Epic to come back even faster!

The rules are available online and there are plenty of third party models (some more legal than others) out there!

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It would be the height of irony if the return of Epic makes 40K less popular than both KillTeam and AT/Epic. In which case, Kirby was right: specialist games do cannibalize core system sales.

For the record, I think between KillTeam, AT/Epic, and Battlefleet Gothic, 40K will be the least popular system of the lot.
   
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 Mysterio wrote:


Every time someone posts pictures like this, it just makes me want some version of Epic to come back even faster!


I reckon we'll get Epic back. Until then, I'll be playing the hell out of this. I've got at least 4 legions planned with more coming.

Particularly looking forward to Legio Crucius (warmongers - reckon they'll be the plasma masters), Xestobiax (Iron Vigil - reckon the black iron core will feature) and Legio Metallica, the old classic
   
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I think I snoozed and lost ... I thought I read that once the grand master edition sells out, it won't be back until 2019? Says it's out of stock online on GW's site, does that mean it's totally gone for now?

 
   
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Yeah, it's definitely gone I'd imagine.
   
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 Necros wrote:
I think I snoozed and lost ... I thought I read that once the grand master edition sells out, it won't be back until 2019? Says it's out of stock online on GW's site, does that mean it's totally gone for now?

The Outpost just sent out notification that they are now accepting pre-orders for the 2019 print run, first come first served.

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It’s a successful launch I’d say. Just need to see if has staying power. And we won’t know that until we’ve got our grubby mitts on it, and start to see expansion of the range.

Me?


   
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 Mr_Rose wrote:
 Necros wrote:
I think I snoozed and lost ... I thought I read that once the grand master edition sells out, it won't be back until 2019? Says it's out of stock online on GW's site, does that mean it's totally gone for now?

The Outpost just sent out notification that they are now accepting pre-orders for the 2019 print run, first come first served.


What the heck. Why would it take so long for GW to repackage that set if they have all the parts individually?

I can understand needing a couple of months, but sometime in 2019?? Is it just the GME as we know it, or a revised version of it?
   
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 KTG17 wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
 Necros wrote:
I think I snoozed and lost ... I thought I read that once the grand master edition sells out, it won't be back until 2019? Says it's out of stock online on GW's site, does that mean it's totally gone for now?

The Outpost just sent out notification that they are now accepting pre-orders for the 2019 print run, first come first served.


What the heck. Why would it take so long for GW to repackage that set if they have all the parts individually?

I can understand needing a couple of months, but sometime in 2019?? Is it just the GME as we know it, or a revised version of it?


The packaging & rulebook almost certainly come from China, meaning a several-week lead time to order more. Plus they may have enough other model production planned in the near future that churning out more batches of warlords & buildings can't happen in the short term.
   
 
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