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For Necron tomb world names, Ancient Egyptian gods work (Anubis, Sekhmet, etc), as do any words dealing with death or undeath (Hades, Styx, Mortis, etc)

For example, I named my army the Acheron Tomb Legion, because they are a Necron harvester army from a Necropolis known as Acheron (acheron being one of the three rivers to the Underworld in Greek myth)

I've informed my Tau player of his need to diversify, but he refuses. Whatever. He's either adapt or lose. Or adapt *and* lose. Heh heh. He relies heavily on his battlesuits, specifically broadsides and squads of them for assault. I think he truly believes that there's got to be some *true* Tau setup that he can use to win.

Yes, I'll be returning to the states before the end of the year, and at that point I will stop posting on this thread, but that's going to be quite a while from now.

MORE CUSTOM PIECES!

What up folks!It`s been a minute.We`ve been kinda busy.Both missions and warhammer.I have been Playing pretty frequently,and not doing too shabby.I will get some battle reports out to ya.I just upgraded my internet so I can upload pics faster.I have recently been expierimenting with new tactics for the IG.Air Assualt won me a battle the other day against chaos space marines.I tabled him in the end.I`m Amped to play again soon.But I ordered a guardsmen marbo piece and some more up-armor kits for my tanks.Anything to impose to the "IMPERIAL WRATH," on lesser lifeforms...BWAHAHAHAHA!(clears throat) just kidding.Anyways I have some more customized pieces for you IG players out there.But before I begin let me start by saying I would love to hear your opinions good or bad.They help me when creating new stuff.And I would like to see some of your mods,It would be great to get some tips from you guys/gals too.

Ok, when I first started modeling my army i was upset about the battle poses there just was`nt enough.If your in a war not everyone is standing up some are laying down behind cover so thats just what I did.I took my magic Hobby knife and sliced and diced and Booyah! soldiers in the prone firing position!




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Putting soldiers in the prone position is as simple as cutting the correct angles at the joints.Too easy!Now they all have custom weapons.I made one sniper rifle out of a flamer.I love flamers because you can make all different kinds of weapons out of them.Sniper rifles,shotguns like I made for col.straken,and my favorite heavy machine guns.My heavy machine guns are made to look like our 240 b`s.this is very simple.cut off the gas line for the flamer,flatten it and cut a few lines into in and you get an ammo belt.Find a piece of plastic cut it into a "V" shape glue it on and you get a bi-pod.then cut off a lasgun muzzle and glue it to the end and,you get the finished product.I use them to show where my heavy weapons are in my squads.The other sniper rifles are made from lasguns,vox casters and a q-tip tube.The barrel for the sniper rifle is made from the long antenna of a vox caster,with a lasgun muzzle break at the end.then cut part of a q-tip tube and make a scope.The only prob with the lasgun sniper rifle is the barrels are flimsy.the bend and warp easy.Your better off making the flamer sniper rifles.But either way they are cool looking.In the picture i have a machine gunner with a funky barrel..lol that has been changed to a lasgun muzzle.It looks ten times better.At the time I was out of lasguns.There is also a sniper in a ghillie suit in the pic.That is just scenery mossy I had left over,I have 3 snipers like that.In woodland scenery they become invisible.Deisel and xo were playing a game and found some sniper in the jungle when the game was over..lol I forgot about them.so it really works.

WOW looks good E.
can you do a toturial on how you made the shotguns,
The heavy machine guns look good. what do you count them as?

For my snipers I use a standard lasgun, cut off the barrel. then I get a laspistol and cut it off behind the powerpack. trip off the powerpack on the laspistol and glue it onto the lasgun, where the barrel was. remove the sights on top of the lasgun and attach a motar sensor thing. and bingo you now have a long las sniper or just a cool lasgun for vets.
Just use some GS to fill in any gaps.

I don't like the marbo model, you would have been better off converting your own.

Well, mail came in yesterday, and XO got his Ironclad Dreadnought and I got my immortals. Now I think all that's left for me to pick up for this army is a Destroyer Lord before I decide it's time to move on to a different army, at least to try it out. And I'm still thinking Tyranids. (EDIT: Or Chaos Daemons.) Everyone else seems lame or overplayed. Anyone have any input on that?

EDIT AGAIN: I like the Tyranids for one reason: Zerg. And the Aliens movies. Well, two reasons. As for the Daemons, it reminds me a lot of H.P. Lovecraft and cuthulhu mythos, and H.P. Lovecraft has got to be my favorite author.

Tyranids > Daemons

Tyranids for sure.

But do you want to do a seething horde of Gaunts and Rippers with assorted Hive Beasts lurking amid them? Or do you want a more "elite" Tyranid force, with Carnifexes and Trygons and Lictors and all that fun stuff being more prevalent?

I finally beat the XO! Man, I really wish I had taken pictures, but after turn 2 I stopped, believing the game to be over for me, as his vindicator cannon took out two of my warrior squads and half of my pariahs by then.

But I'll fill you in where I can:

We went with Ahniliation rules. 2000 points.
I had 4 squads of 10 warriors (40), 1 squad of 10 pariahs, 1 squad of 2 destroyers attatched to a Destroyer lord with a rez orb, phase shifter and warscythe. 1 lone destroyer, the Nightbringer, and a necron lord with a rez orb and veil of darkness.

If I recall correctly, XO had two squads of 10 SM's, with sergeants and lascannons, a vindicator, a land raider with lascannons, vanguard assault marines, a ironclad dreadnought in a drop-pod, assault terminators with a chaplain, and terminators with a chaplain... and scouts.

We had E place the terrain and rolled to see who went on which side of the board.

I had made the foolish mistake of placing all of my troops very close together, trying to keep them with the rez orb'ed regular lord, but that put the vindicator in a prime position to rain havoc on my units, which it did twice. But I tied it up as much as I could with potshots and harassing it with my Nightbringer (though I couldn't outrun it). He eventaully cornered me with his assault terminators, and I deep striked my squad attatched to the N.Lord too close to the vindicator, and so the mishap roll put them in reserve. When I brought them out, I decided to bring them out regularly (at that point they were my last troop squad, with 17 warriors) on the edge of the board so that they could shoot at the assault terminators that were harassing my pariahs and who had dealt serious blows to my other warrior squads. But the game ended at turn 5 with me taking out both of his terminator squads in my last turn, putting me up 4 points.

Details were left out, of course, but the end result was:

XO killed both Destroyer Squads, and three Warrior Squads. 5 points.

I killed the Dreadnought, Vanguard Assault Marines, and two terminator squads, each with a chaplain. 6 points.

He was pretty put out about losing, particularly because neither of us realized until I pointed it out once the game was over that his Chaplains may be independent characters and as such would count as extra points. At first, we had thought I lost. Add that to some crappy rolls (out of 7 dice, he rolled 3 1's on his terminators' armor saves once), and things just didn't go his way by turn 4. Granted, his assault marines were tearing through my warriors, but perhaps he would have fared better if he let his vindicator get a shot off on just the pariahs themselves to rid himself of that threat, but I think he was going for a quick phase-out, which is normally a sound strategy with necrons.

Anyway, he's not a happy camper. But hopefully he'll take the end of his undefeated status as a renewed need to prove his superiority, and play again, harder, better... instead of refuse to play me. I understand necrons can be a frustrating army to play against if I'm rolling well on WBB.

Corvus Wrote:

Tyranids > Daemons

Kanluwen Wrote:

But do you want to do a seething horde... Or do you want a more "elite" Tyranid force...?

The reason I had considered Daemons was because no one else had them here, and I didn't want to embarass another newbie who is waiting on his Tyranids to arrive by painting and playing "his" army better. Though I will almost certainly choose them after reading through the description of the Daemons' army in the GW website. As for what kind of army to play, I have no clue. I have no knowledge of their codex and little knowledge of their units and their abilities. I'll probably grab a lictor because it looks like Cuthulhu or something, even though I have no clue what it does. I'm probably going to buy a Battleforce, a HQ unit, the Codex, and see what I like from them from there.

Alright, well, on to the next challenger!

Lictors are a kind of "pathfinder" unit for the Tyranids. They leave a pheromone trail that leads the other Tyranids to prey.

In game terms, it allows for units that're being delivered via Spore Pods to "home in" on it.

As for Daemons...you saw the new ones coming out too, right?

No, I didn't. I just saw that it was an army divided on 4 fronts and would look aesthetically terrible if I mixed all 4 types together to get a balance of abilities. Or maybe they just look aesthetically terrible, period.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that the only way to do it(background wise at least) is a monogod army. Like, an all Nurgle army or all Khorne army, etc.

And yes, while some have differing abilities--it's generally offset by them having different benefits. Khorne's daemons, for example, tend to be the only ones that have an armor save in addition to an Invulnerable save and Nurgle's daemons tend to just be tough as nails and ridiculously hard to put down.

Ah, you know what? XO just pointed out that I had fielded 3 HQ units in that one. The Nightbringer, the Destroyer Lord, and the Necron Lord. So, we agreed to call it a void by stupidity, since we both missed that I was over my FOC for HQ units.

I'm almost done with my assault Chaplain! I'll have some pictures up soon.


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Maybe one day diesel and myself will learn the rules...

Let me just say, first of all, that I've been reading this thread since the first day it was started. I really appreciate the service all of you are doing for our country.

@Diesel congratulations on your first win against the XO! I've really enjoyed watching your army and tactics evolve until they are just how you like them. Also, the necrons look great. I would also vote for Tyranids as a second army.

@E I really like the mossy camo guardsmen. That is too funny how one was found still "hiding out" in the next battle.

If you guys can I would like to see pictures of your entire forces set up all at once. I always liked those pictures of an entire force. Keep up all the posts and pictures.

Commissar Agro wrote:WOW looks good E.
can you do a toturial on how you made the shotguns,
The heavy machine guns look good. what do you count them as?
I don't like the marbo model, you would have been better off converting your own.

For sure ,your in luck I have one flamer left,I`ll take pics while I convert it into a shotgun!I count my machine guns as whatever heavy weapons I pay for in that squad.My guardsman marbo(flip the M and the R it`s Rambo)will have some kool mods when I`m done,you wont be dissapointed!Thanks for the props boss.May the emperor be with you.

Wait... is the only Tyranid HQ unit the Hive Tyrant?

EDIT: It seems like the Broodlord can swap out as HQ or Elite. I'm confused, but whatever.

Tyranids have Hive Tyrants, the Swarmlord, Tyranid Primes, Broodlords, and maybe Tervigons (not sure about this)

thats good to hear E, I once tryed to convert shotguns from flamers, they were terible.
Oh a rambo, sounds good.

@ Diesel: yeah transgalatic bugs will do that to you.
good luck with 'nids, if you go for them.

diesel7270 wrote:It seems like the Broodlord can swap out as HQ or Elite. I'm confused, but whatever.

In the 4th ed codex, Broodlord was an HQ choice. NOW, in 5th ed, any troop genestealer can be upgraded to have a Broodlord. He is simply a really pumped genestealer, and still is Troops. (and is totally worth the points, OMG!)

I am personally bummed that there is no "genestealer" themed HQ for Nids now.. so I make do with a Tyranid Prime modeled from a Biggerized Genestealer.

I finally finished my Chaplain!

Well where is he!

He took a while.

I was floored when the XO finished his Chaplain. Some details, like the inside of his jump-jets, were left out of the view in the pics, but he poured his soul into that model. I mean, the XO takes a LONG time to finish a model, but he loves doing each of his models as perfect as he can, and this Chaplain simply amazed me.

I've got some more pictures to show you guys too.

So I worked on my Immortals extensively today. First, let me go over the issues I've generally run into with these guys. Maybe Corvus can attest (or tell me what I was doing wrong). Every one of the models' gun-arms had to be bent into shape to fit where they were supposed to go. Dryfitting was heinous; a small shift of the gun arm as it dried and then the free arm won't make contact with the Gauss Blaster. The Gauss Blasters themselves were a little flimsy, but not nearly as bad as the Pariahs' warscythes were. The variety of poses that are presented with the immortals is VERY limited. There's virtually only two significant variations: Head facing left, and head facing right. The barrel-ends of the Gauss Blasters are going to be a real pain to get to stay on, but to help with the adhesive aspect, I'm going to wait to put them on until I'm going to PVA glue the green rods in, so that the rods' glue and the metal-to-metal superglue all hold that relatively small object with a smaller contact point together. The legs of several came warped to where I had to bend the crap out of them just to sit on the base, and the base bar on the bottom of them all had to be trimmed down, as they were WAY too wide to fit in the base slot. And, finally, one of the models' Gauss Blaster was packaged with a semi-messed up blade and a missing arm that was supposed to be attached. That being said, they're beautiful models, and I can't wait to get them together.



This photo comes with some captions imposed on the image to illustrate what the Gauss Blaster piece should have looked like, and what I got with one model. The ONLY bit I had (and thank god I had it) that could have applied to it was the useless gun-arm piece that came with my Heavy Destroyer, which is packaged with the exact same sprue as a regular Destroyer, with two metal pieces added in for the "Heavy" part as the only additions. Of course, that arm is huge so I had to cut the top joints off to get it to a reasonable size, and I was still missing a forearm.



I took two bits of reinforcing bars that came with some other blister packs and tried to PVA glue them together to build something that looked like a Necron forearm, as you see here. After over an hour of waiting, it still hadn't dried sufficiently, and on picking it up it fell apart. Superglue did the trick on holding it together until I starting trimming it down to proper length, when the torque took the two apart. I figured trying further with this method would probably be very difficult to manage. So instead I took a bit of sprue tree and tried to carve it into something that at least resembled some kind of forearm looking thing. That way at least the dried plastic glue would relieve me of the bonding issues I run into with super glue.



Here's the finished "arm," with the exception of me having to shave down some of the lower half to let it fit into place.



And here's what it looked like when I applied it. Granted, it looks a little sloppy, and with some putty or other similar modeling techniques I hope to make it look more solid, but I basically just took a completely effed model and turned something semi-decent out of it. In fact, with it's more-impressive arm, I may give it a more elaborate color-job than the other immortals and call it the "leader," with a vague sentience similar to the Necron Lords. In fluff, anyway.



I've been meaning to get this to you guys for a while now, but here's a "lava" board E cooked up on a late night by himself out of a giant sheet of corrugated cardboard, play-dough, and red gloss spraypaint. Not bad for a night's work with scraps.

Limey wrote:

If you guys can I would like to see pictures of your entire forces set up all at once.

Ask and you shall receive. I wanted to do the other guys, E particularly, but they were bashful about some of their guys being half-painted or not at all. As for me, I left out my unpainted immortals in the below picture, and two of the Flayed Ones are only basecoated here, but what you see in this picture is my entire assembled and painted army.



You can also see my rather hasty attempts at a Necron Summoning Core and Plasma Generators. The plasma generators were purposefully sloppy because I didn't want to take my time painting several neat green coats on a spare slick plastic spraypaint cap.

Let me know what you guys think!

Hey man, thanks for fighting for us. Some people may say otherwise but the United States Army as well as its armed forces are one beast to be reckoned with. I really want to thank you for risking your life for my and my families freedom.

Diesel, I feel your pain with the Immortals man. The gun arm almost always needs bending to get a proper fit, and warped legs are common. I guess I've been lucky in that mine at least had all their arms lol. IMHO tho, they're a really easy model to assemble, as metal minis go, only hard part is getting the gun barrels to stay lined up inside the weapon casing, especially if the casing is slightly too narrow for the barrels to fit. Good luck with them!

Here's a pic of mine, for inspiration lol

Thanks for the picture, your Necrons are looking great. If you can talk the other guys into it I'd love to see their armies too.

Great stuff with the flamers. I've made shotguns, plasma guns (plasma pistols mated to flamers), and las carbines, but I hadn't thought of sniper rifles or SAW's.

Thanks for the input, Corvus. I'm probably going to do the gold-lined shoulderpads like you did, and then go with white on the shoulderpads' normal color. With the guy I modded (no comments on that, anyone? ) I'll probably do blue shoulderpads and a white face. I may even put decals on the shoulders like you did, Corvus. Thanks for the inspiration!

So E wakes me up from a nap to show me a new board he assembled, with loads of new terrain. Stoked by such a change of terrain scenery, he wanted to play a match and I was happy to oblige. So I took pictures, and some notes. I lost, though, but it was a close game and I had some bad rolls when I really needed them. But I still had a blast!

So here's a batrep:

Ahniliation (I always spell that wrong, and spellcheck doesn't help).
1500 points.
Necrons Vs. IG.

I had 2 squads of 20 warriors each, 10 immortals, one necron lord with a rez orb only, one destroyer lord with a rez orb, phase shifter, and warscythe, and three destroyers divided into two squads.

E goes first. (I've been rolling crappy on those, and I've only gone for the "seize the initiative" once, just to give it a shot. It seems kinda lame to me, unless I was playing tourney-style and really needed it.



Starting formation. E went a bit off convention and fielded a massive platoon as a single unit filled with veteran squads with melta guns. He also had two storm-trooper squads when he realized he could have more than 5 models in a squad. He really needs to get his codex down more... he accidentally fielded a squad with ALL melta guns, when he was limited to two. He also had three vendettas and a squad of 3 ogryns, one of them a 'ard head. I personally had little tactical recourse other than to try to get my destroyer lord to tear up his vendettas and let my infantry lay waste to his infantry. And it almost worked, except I did some bad rolling when I really needed it. It seems insane sometimes that he assaults with his IG, but this time, he lucked out.



End of Turn 1.

E had advanced his valkyries, but left his infantry standing still. His valkyries fire all of their lascannons at my Destroyer Lord's squad, taking down his two destroyer attatchments and giving him 2 wounds. One of the destroyers rezzed to the spare, single destroyer I had sitting out with them, but at already two wounds I was starting to sweat... I was relying heavily on my Destroyer Lord on taking down his vendettas, which is tough because they move so fast.

I advanced all of my units, clambering over barricades, and shoot what's left of my destroyers at the closest valkyrie for no damage.



End of Turn 2.

E advances all of his massive platoon of 40 troops and his two stormtrooper squads towards my guys, but is still out of range for the 12" rapid fire. His vendetta previously on the left side of the board closed some distance with the destroyers, and they all fire another volley at the destroyers (in addition to failed shots from his ogryns), taking all of them out. Fortunately, my Destroyer Lord Rezzed on it's own.

The Destroyer Lord after it rezzes, advances on the closest vendetta, and my warriors and immortals make their way to the center obelisk monument, and fire, taking down several guardsmen. The D.Lord assaults the vendetta, and wrecks it from multiple systems failures.



End of Turn 3.

E pushes his ogryns closer to the D.Lord, and advances his troops closer to get more shots. His ogryns finally finish off my D.Lord, and he doesn't rez. His lasrifles and melta guns drop a few of my warriors and immortals.

My troops pretty much stay still as everything is in range and the heavy terrain gives most situations a cover save. My immortals and the right squad fire at the ogryns and take them out. Which was a stupid move, as my right squad of warriors ignored their armor saves and would have been more than sufficient to kill them, while my immortals could fire at the vendetta in front of them, but I didn't realize their armor save was ignored until it was too late. The right squad fired on the huge platoon and took out 10 guardsmen.



End of Turn 4.

E moves and shoots, and then assaults my left squad with his closes stormtrooper squad. He's doing a bit of damage, but he's having a hard time against my WS and T, so my relatively few attacks are enough to get me to win assaults, though he is passing all of his morale checks.

My right squad of troops immobilize and shake the vendetta in front of them (I'm going for a KP by systems failure again with glancing hits), and my immortals shoot and assault into the big platoon squad, dropping again a substantial amount of his forces (but he's only down from 40 to 20) and he's still making his morale checks. Rolling 6 to wound against my immortals is making life hard for him on that respect.



End of Turn 5.

Tactics are grinding to an end here, for both of us. The lascannon blasts from his free vendetta are chipping away at my right squad, and between our two turns, I manage to drop his stormtrooper squad in a sweeping advance, and survive another round with my assault with the immortals. Gotta love that T5! All I manage to do with the other squad is stun the vendetta.



End of Turn 6.

My immortals take one more casualty than his squad does in assault, fail their morale and are caught in a sweeping advance (D'oh! 6 immortals down the drain!). He also moved, shot at, and then assaulted with his other stormtrooper squad, though I seem to be doing fine against them. He loses a few, I lose one in that seperate assault. Meanwhile my other squad destroys the weapon on the vendetta, leaving it useless and waiting for one more systems failure to die and give me a KP.



End of Turn 7.

In E's turn, he assaults with his main platoon and stormtroopers, and though I take his stormtrooper squad down to two more models, I recieved one more wound than his did, failed my morale check AGAIN and was caught in a sweeping advance AGAIN. So to try to at least tie the game, I seperated my N.Lord from the main squad, wiped out the two remaining stormtroopers with the staff of light, but the remaining troops in front of the vendetta failed to get a WD or immobilized on it again, and he won by 1 kill point.



After the battle is finished, Corporal Birdman has a message to the Necron Lord from the Emperor.

SUMMARY:

While talking with Gwar, he explained he may have fielded an illegal platoon. Company and Platoon command squads cannot attatch to the main body platoon and thus may have given me more kill points. Or something. We are still making mistakes, as we have no outside reference there to tell us what we're messing up, because we're not playing in a GW store or a 40K event. It's just a bunch of guys trying to make something out of the byzantine rules system of 40K. I'll talk with E about it and see if everything was square.

I don't see how the battle could have gone any differently, other than me rolling horribly when I really didn't need it. The two sweeping advances are what hurt me the most, as my necrons probably would have stayed in those assaults, and maybe won at least one of them, if they hadn't failed morale and then gotten destroyed in a sweeping advance.

With the map being much more terrain-heavy than we usually play, my guys were at least getting cover saves against his lascannons and melta guns.

Oh, and E custom modeled the guardsman in the last picture. He worked extensively on terrain this morning and so we had a bunch of new buildings, and several monuments build from foam he lightly painted white to look like granite. It was a beautiful map to play on (considering what Iraq has to offer us for available terrain pieces). But we did get an extensive amount of wobbly-model syndrome, especially on the rocks around the perimeter of the obelisk-looking monument. By the way, those white rocks are keyboard keys.

Your maps have gotten a lot better! And sorry for going OT, but what is your job in the army? I mean, what are your duties?

Technically I'm Infantry. I was Airborne Infantry (paratrooper) until I got transferred to this unit from Alaska, and served last deployment as a rifleman and a grenadier. This deployment I'm basically the administrative management for the company I'm in. A paper pusher who handles problems for the soldiers here who are too busy with missions and tasks to bother themselves with obscure forms and red tape. That's what happens when you're the one person in the company who's good with a computer.