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I think buying a metal one would come first, lol. Though if other stretches are as good, I may anyways.

Mantic vs McVey KS needs to go to its own thread if you feel the need to continue the discussion.

I'm not a huge board gamer, though I'll give this a go. I'm more looking forward to getting 75 high detail models for so cheap! They'll make a nice force in a huge variety of skirmish games.

mattyrm wrote: I think the Mantic one would do better if the stretch goals were better. People want more stuff, not "If we hit this goal, we will release some things earlier next year than we expected, but you wont get any"

Exactly!

Zombicide handled their stretch goals almost perfectly.

Ogre less so, but they still cleared $900K - nostalgia FTW!

I'm confident that Sedition Wars will follow the Zombicide track closely, and we'll get more 'freebies' in order to whip the game buying public into a frenzy.

With the right incentives, I think this one can overtake Ogre to reclaim the title of highest funded board/cardgame.

Until Car Wars launches...

yeah,

Alpharius wrote:...With the right incentives, I think this one can overtake Ogre to reclaim the title of highest funded board/cardgame.
Until Car Wars launches...

Or untill GW makes Warhammer 40,000 6th edition a Kickstarter.

Panic...

Panic wrote:yeah,

Alpharius wrote:...With the right incentives, I think this one can overtake Ogre to reclaim the title of highest funded board/cardgame.
Until Car Wars launches...

Or untill GW makes Warhammer 40,000 6th edition a Kickstarter.

Panic...

GW probably used up their entire creative department to think up of their digital books. Anymore and their brains will explode!

Panic wrote:yeah,

Alpharius wrote:...With the right incentives, I think this one can overtake Ogre to reclaim the title of highest funded board/cardgame.
Until Car Wars launches...

Or untill GW makes Warhammer 40,000 6th edition a Kickstarter.

Panic...

Good point there, actually.

Though I'd still be surprised if they used Kickstarter!

And one would also ask the question that, if they had just made a massive dividend payment out, why they the biggest company in the industry then needed a customer investment?

Pacific wrote:And one would also ask the question that, if they had just made a massive dividend payment out, why they the biggest company in the industry then needed a customer investment?

well, to be fair, no matter how big a company you are, you're always gonna need customer investment!

Thinking about it, if GW did it right....RIGHT, then Kickstarter could be a good thing for them. What I mean is, if they actually could post up some of the key changes they were thinking of introducing in 6th ed and asking people to "pledge" up front, they would get a good idea on whether 6th ed would bomb or not.....

Feth, who am I kidding, 6th ed could be tiddly winks with space elves and body builders, and it'd still sell like hot cakes......GW really doesn't need kickstarter does it.

GW could use Kickstarter for limited release projects, say Blood Bowl or dare I say it, Necromunda / Mordheim?

But, back on topic, can't wait to see how far this will go, the more goodies the better!

There is no way GW uses Kickstarter, that would mean they would have to discount a product, we all know how often that happens. In order to have customer investment you must have a) good relations with their customers, b) an incentive deal for customers. GW has neither of these.

Gw will NOT use kickstarter.

Kickstarter is for people who have the talent and lack the funds. This Sedition Wars board game has the talent (obviously) and lacked the funds to get the entire set tooled in plastic. Same goes for that Zombie game - plastic molds are expensive.

Games Workshop has the talent and the funding. They have tons of money. Their main concern is the allocation of the concept artists, creative team, and sculptors in the most time-effective manner.
Kickstarter won't spawn competent writers and sculptors that can handle the Warhammer licenses well.
Also, before you nitpick at that last statement, understand how things could be much worse; GW at least makes damn good plastic models.

Aside from perhaps a "LOL mee too!" publicity that GW has historically never done, it would make absolutely no sense for GW to give Kickstarter a percentage of their money for minimal gain.

Plus, Kickstarter is a form of a democracy. I don't want more Space Marines.

Hmm while it is interesting to talk about, I think this topic is not for discussing GW and kickstarter. It would be more suited for the dakka discussion boards or something

Anyways back on topic, nearing 130k now

This Kickstarter is excellent, if only I had the $100 to spare right now, I'd be all over this.

27 extra models as freebies is very nice indeed.

Hm...

I'm starting to wonder what other additions this game might have.

The heavy weapons specialist is the last of the Vanguard that have already been released for the miniatures line (ok, there are some generic troopers, but I think the Samaritans replace them).

I'd love to see some Firebrand enter the fray, but I seriously doubt it.

Aside from that, I wonder if there are other characters that they are considering adding to the game as stretch goals.

Also, I'll be there's a few other counters that might end up in nice plastic.

odinsgrandson wrote:Hm...

I'm starting to wonder what other additions this game might have.

The heavy weapons specialist is the last of the Vanguard that have already been released for the miniatures line (ok, there are some generic troopers, but I think the Samaritans replace them).

I'd love to see some Firebrand enter the fray, but I seriously doubt it.

Aside from that, I wonder if there are other characters that they are considering adding to the game as stretch goals.

I agree - more special/unique character would be nice!

odinsgrandson wrote:
Also, I'll be there's a few other counters that might end up in nice plastic.

However, this option is probably more likely.

odinsgrandson wrote:Hm...

I'm starting to wonder what other additions this game might have.
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I'm hoping that we can get more of the big things like the tank and the higher evolutions. And more tiles or whatever

Though no idea what they would do on anything new. Firebrand would be neat but most likely they're already slated for the next expansion

I'm in for Biohazard. Couldn't pass up getting extra figs, just to have and paint.

Are Vokker Dargu and the carapace armor part of the other faction? I wouldn't be surprised to see a ks only 2nd Zosa to have both options. An exclusive mini or 5 would be great, even if it required extra moneys.

Just keep adding figs and I'll keep feeling even better.

whalemusic360 wrote:Are Vokker Dargu and the carapace armor part of the other faction? I wouldn't be surprised to see a ks only 2nd Zosa to have both options. An exclusive mini or 5 would be great, even if it required extra moneys.

Yup, Vokker and pals are Firebrand

http://studiomcvey.highwire.com/products/firebrand-rebellion-range?pagesize=12

Ah ha, thanks. Im on an iPad and couldn't get past the flash interface.

anyone else would like see colored faction dice as a future goal? faction emblem on the 6.

perhaps in the 200,000-something range.

Studio McVey wrote:

angryboy2k wrote:
Really appreciate you posting here about this release. I have a couple of questions about the kickstarter:
1. Are the stretch bonuses per pledge or per copy of the game? e.g. I pledge $190 for two copies (one for me and one for a friend) will we get two sets of 12 extra troopers, or just the one? (I'm obviously assuming the $60k level as a given here).

1. If you pledge 'We've got Movement!' ($190) - it means you get two of everything you would get at the 'Biohazard' $100 level. So two copies of the game, two LE karas, two vanguard patches, etc - and two sets of all the stretch goals linked to the Biohazard level pledge.
Clear?
mike

Hi Mike,
Thank you for this clarification. Could you please get it updated and clarified on the KS page as well, as it read the other way (2 sets of the game, but only 1 set of the extra miniatures) - and so until I happened to read this post 2 minutes ago I was only down for $100 as opposed to $190....

Alpharius wrote:

mattyrm wrote: I think the Mantic one would do better if the stretch goals were better. People want more stuff, not "If we hit this goal, we will release some things earlier next year than we expected, but you wont get any"

Exactly!

Zombicide handled their stretch goals almost perfectly.

Ogre less so, but they still cleared $900K - nostalgia FTW!

I'm confident that Sedition Wars will follow the Zombicide track closely, and we'll get more 'freebies' in order to whip the game buying public into a frenzy.

With the right incentives, I think this one can overtake Ogre to reclaim the title of highest funded board/cardgame.

Until Car Wars launches...

Double agreed. People want more stuff. There's nothing like getting in on a great project and then watching your investment grow- best nerd investment I've made in a while.

Also, if you REALLY want a good kickstarter- you'll make most of the additions "kickstarter" only. People want things that are exclusive. There's less thrill in when you read "all boxes get X" instead of "Kickstarter boxes get X".

odinsgrandson wrote:I'd love to see some Firebrand enter the fray, but I seriously doubt it.

Mike has already said that the Firebrand would appear in a future expansion - knowing the background for the game, there's no reason for them to be around during the Battle for Alabaster.

Dysartes wrote:

odinsgrandson wrote:I'd love to see some Firebrand enter the fray, but I seriously doubt it.

Mike has already said that the Firebrand would appear in a future expansion - knowing the background for the game, there's no reason for them to be around during the Battle for Alabaster.

Not yet. But IIRC the Zombicide Kickstarter also included stuff for the expansions. So if this KS goes well (well... still better) they might have more funds for making the expansions more awesome than planned.

Hmm I've been thinking about what other possible additions we could see. I reckon perhaps some of the following may make it in:

Plastic doors
More of the cardboard counters being remastered into plastic
Additional board pieces
Standard box board tiles no longer being double sided
Inclusion of the previously done limited edition Kara models
Vanguard looking strain
Sharro limited being re-done as a character:

Is the Reaver the gun that's being fired from the hip? If so, adding a couple of female Reaver Heavies would be nice.

@Mike McVey: if the Kickstarter stretch goals get to the stage where I'd want to get the whole thing instead of just waiting and buying singles, would it be possible to make a "pledge" directly through Paypal rather than through the Amazon fund transfer service?

AlexHolker wrote:Is the Reaver the gun that's being fired from the hip? If so, adding a couple of female Reaver Heavies would be nice.

@Mike McVey: if the Kickstarter stretch goals get to the stage where I'd want to get the whole thing instead of just waiting and buying singles, would it be possible to make a "pledge" directly through Paypal rather than through the Amazon fund transfer service?

The only way to pledge through Kickstarter is with Amazon payments, they don't accept any other form of payment.

Don't quote me on this, but I think cmon took some pledges after the KS finished for Zombicide - so maybe that would be an option. This is unconfirmed though.

mike

not sure on the game mechanics but surley its only designed for a set amount of figs so im guessing that the next strech target rewards will be more game play based like custom dice and counters etc . i would quite like a well designed t shirt or a branded figure case stuff like that ..