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Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut




Surrey, BC - Canada

Ezki,

Nice work on the war band.

the lighting effect on Cascoigne is especially nice.

Cheers,

CB


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Made in fi
Emboldened Warlock





Finland, Espoo

Thanks for the comment everyone! Glad you like them.

Elbows: Thank you! I know the feeling. I'm getting pretty much torn by the shooty warbands (only four games under my belt me so far). In the campaing I have lost 2/3 games, but I'm playing the long game and trying to hoard as much wyrdstone as possible. One good thing about the undead is that I don't have to (can't) buy any gear for all the henchmen.
I was also looking at the Frostgrave cultists, they looked really interesting!

gobert wrote:Your warband is coming along nicely Ezki. The OSL looks pretty good, especially around his face he looks to be basking in the glow of his lantern. Looking forward to the necromancer rounding out the set


Gobert: Thanks! I'm surprised that the face actually turned out pretty well, as I spent the least time "lighting it up". It proves that time spent and quality don't always go hand in hand.


Note, the following post is quite long and picture heavy!

Well, it seems that the OSL had a warm welcome, which is always nice. Especially for a technique that is completely new for me.
Regarding how I made it: I'm not completely sure. I tried to watch quite a few reference images and plan my techniques based on them. The very first experimentation was on another primed mini, where I just drybrushed a layer or two of orange. It did not look very good, so I decided to make the first layers by glazing on the actual model. I kept mixing different shades, light and dark, and let the brush guide my way without too much thought. On some areas, I relied on drybrushing or sharp edge highlighting. When I try this next, at least I know a few things that I might try differently and hopefully the process is a bit more consistent. When I get it figured out, I have to write it up so I will remember the technique a bit longer than a few days

As I said last time, I have been busy doing some terrain crafting!
We had a terrain building day with our Mordheim Group. As the group mostly consists of people who I have never met before the campaign, arranging a hobby day is a good way to get to know them.


We have quite a lot of urban terrain, but we need more rural terrain for the upcoming games. So we decided to build a few different rocks and hills.
I wanted to try a few new things while building my piece. It that works out, I will make similar kind of terrain pieces for our 40k games sometime in the future.

First I cut a few pieces of styrofoam with a foam cutter.


Then used a knife to create some rocky shapes on them.


Using foam board, I made a base for the rock. I wanted this piece to have a bit more life and detail to it. I have used foam board only once: when making the bunker for my Armies of Parade entry last year. I'm really starting to like this stuff. It was quite easy to sand the edges and this stuff is really easy to cut.


Before priming, I covered the base with a 50/50 mix of PVA glue and water + some toiler paper to create a ground like textrue. Few smaller rocks were created from cork.
I applied just a little bit of sand and small stones on top of the base and rocks, just to create a bit more texture. Lastly the whole piece was covered with another mix of water and PVA, just to make it a little more durable.


The only bad thing that I found about foam core is that when it's painted or glued, the paper sucks a lot of moisture. When it dries it starts to shrink, possibly warping the large piece. This of course happened, but luckily I was able to straighten it by applying some water + PVA mix on the other side, so that both sides of the foam board would shrink the same amount. This worked out almost perfectly, just a teeny tiny bit of curliness is present.
The drying time for this was very long (~12 hours to be sure) so I decided to take it home and finish it here.

The whole thing was primed using black Gesso acrylic paint. Getting the paint in all the crevices was a bit of a pain, but I could not use a can primer as the foam might melt. An airbrush would be perfect for this step, but sadly I don't own one.


The first layer of paint. Acrylic brown and grey from a hobby store. It needs a few highlights and some foliage and then it's ready to go!



In addition to this, I made a few simple props from balsa wood. Even though our theme was to build outdoor terrain, I'm always to keen to make a few props to make the indoor sections look a bit more interesting.


A quick priming with black Gesso, some dark brown, wash and a layer of dry brushing to finish them up.



To make some details for the bookshelf, I wanted to try and make a few scrolls.
I mixed PVA glue, water and yellow wash and used it to dip some basic printer paper stripes. Using a simple toothpick I rolled the stripes to a correct shape. This was quite messy and the mixed stuff got everywhere. But if I'm being honest, the messy steps are the best ones.


To add even more detail, I wanted to make some "rope" to seal the scrolls. It was time to sneakily dive into my girlfriends drawer and hunt some thin thread. There was no brown, but I decided to try and dip some white thread in a bottle of brown ink. It turned a lot better than using brown thread, as it has a bit more depth to it.


Cutting the thread and making small knots took quite a while. I was supposed to just a few of these, but I got a bit carried away. Watching some youtube videos while doing this brainless task proved to be quite effective. Now there is a bit more than a few.


The last image is a bit dark, but when they are completely dry I will try to take a better one.

That's all for now. I'm going to keep on working with these for a few more days and hopefully get them done by the end of the week.

Edit: fixed some typos. Writing while tired tends to leave a few mistakes...

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2019/08/08 07:14:58


   
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Boston-area [Watertown] Massachusetts

Those scrolls are going to look GREAT.

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Va

Yeah, the OSL came out well. I have never tried it, myself. I also really like Yvonne. Pretty cool model!


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Made in gb
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Tyrant of Badab






HATE Club, East London

Love the furniture and scrolls!

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Regular Dakkanaut





Nice work on the terrain, the little details like the scrolls really help bring them to life. Thanks for summarising the build process, will make for some handy tips if I ever get around to making some
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






A marvelous place for playing King of the Hill with your minis. Nice write-up, too.
   
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'





USA

I like the terrain, furniture, and especially the scrolls. That is impressive dedication on the scrolls, I used thin wire to tie single scrolls when I made them. That's really impressive to be managing with thread.

   
Made in fi
Emboldened Warlock





Finland, Espoo

Thanks for the comments and compliments guys!

Maharg & Youwashock: Cheers! Trying to write a summary about all the new techniques I come across, so that they can be used as reference for others and for myself too.

Syro: Glad you like them! It was quite difficult to make the knots, and boy was it time consuming. But I think it paid off in the end.
I was browsing your thread and actually came across the scrolls you made, looked ace! It also seems that every terrain / prop idea I get, I could just go and check your thread on how to achieve it. I was creating a prototype of a fireplace, and I cracked a smile as I noticed that you had already done it


Been actually thinking about making a thread that would focus only on terrain. That way it would be easier to find the different techniques I have used and that way I could also use it as a "terrain notebook" for myself. My gaming group also keeps asking how I did certain terrain elements, so it would be easier to link that thread instead. Need to think about it. Time is a bit short during the autumn. If I end up doing it, it will be a lot less active than this one, as my "terrain building sprees" tend to happen once or twice a year. Got a ton of ideas though...

But for now, let's continue the journey right here:


Here's a close up from some of the scrolls.


After making the knots, I applied just a bit of glue to hold the thread in place. A few of them came out a bit too yellow, as I dipped all of them in the yellow wash (the wash mixed with the glue did not give enough color). Now some of them have been glued to the shelf. I will post a picture of that when it's complete.

As an experimental project, I tried to do some bricks out of Milliput. I did not have the right tools, so they came up very different sized.


The idea was to build a fireplace out of these bricks. As I was piling them, I realized that they are so uneven that it would never work. So instead I decided to try and build one out of styrofoam.
If that succeeds, I will post a small write up about that process as well. Okay well, even if it does not succeed, I will do it regardless.


Then back to main "main project" at the moment.
I painted the rock and its base by dry brushing different shades of light brown and grey. After that I started applying some GW grass flock, but it looked a bit bland. I wanted to give the rock a bit more natural look. After browsing a ton of reference images, I got an idea about making some sort of moss on top of it. I have read / heard (not quite remember) that someone did foliage out of tea! I had to give this a shot.

I cut a small piece of styrofoam to use as a test base and went to town.
I used three kinds of tea as they all had a bit different kind of texture. I also made a few different mixes with and without green wash.
The base of every mix was PVA glue and water. Note, quite a many tea bags were harmed in the process.


After drying over night, I did some dry brushing with different tones of green to see which combination would work best for this project.
The one on the very right is made out of smoke tea with long grain. It did not look that good for the purpose I had in mind.
The on in the very middle is green organic tea with really light colored grain.
The ones on the left and bottom was twinnings fruit tea and it seemed to work the best.


The rest is just some random mixing with grass flock etc.

It was time to kill a few more tea bags and start mixing!



A shame, it seems that I don't have any pictures from this point to the completion, but I'll try my best to explain the steps:

The mixture had to be quite thick, so that the water and glue would not run down the steep surface of the rock. It was also easier to "mold" this way. I started applying the stuff with a brush, but it was really hard to shape the stuff that way. Instead I put some rubber gloves on and used my fingers. I tried to make different sized and shaped moss areas. This step was really messy: in the end I noticed that some of it was on my table and all over the floor. It was vacuum cleaning time.

After the mixture had dried, I applied one more layer of green wash to each moss piece. As a future reference, I might use actual green paint with the mixture instead of wash.
Then it was simply dry brushing different light green tones on top of them.

As for the GW grass flocks, I applied one layer -> then some green wash to break the color -> one more layer of flock to make it thicker and further break the color.
After that, I applied a few different kinds of grass tufts from army painter.

And with that, it's finally complete!
(Bigger pictures in the gallery)










It turned out pretty neat!
Only thing that bugs me is the front face (first picture). The foliage looks a bit unnatural. Not sure if it's because there is too little of it or because the moss was applied a bit too dot-like fashion.
Nevertheless, for a first try with quite a few new techniques I'm really happy with it. I might very well do a few grimdark versions to decorate our 40k gaming table!

The other small props (fireplace, shelf and benches) are almost complete, as I was multitasking with them quite a bit while the different mixtures were drying.
So I'll get back when I'm done with those (hopefully in a day or two).

Until then, keep on rocking!

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Rocking is an understatement. That thing is awesome. Such fantastic variation in the foliage.
   
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'





USA

It also seems that every terrain / prop idea I get, I could just go and check your thread on how to achieve it. I was creating a prototype of a fireplace, and I cracked a smile as I noticed that you had already done it

Heh heh, Thanks Ezki. If I give your great work any inspiration, it's a good thing Nice work on the scrolls, I still can't imagine how hard it must have been to try those mini knots.
Your terrain piece looks absolutely stunning, and so varied. Are you going to be okay with people battling on it, when it looks that good? Even the test piece looks surprisingly nice, what were the three different kinds of tea you used? I mostly use Chamomile, but have plans to try black tea (the two kinds I drink).


   
Made in fi
Emboldened Warlock





Finland, Espoo

Youwashock: Thank you very much! Variation is what I aimed for.

Syro_ wrote:Nice work on the scrolls, I still can't imagine how hard it must have been to try those mini knots.
Your terrain piece looks absolutely stunning, and so varied. Are you going to be okay with people battling on it, when it looks that good? Even the test piece looks surprisingly nice, what were the three different kinds of tea you used? I mostly use Chamomile, but have plans to try black tea (the two kinds I drink).


Thank you!
Tying them up required some patience alright. I found out that it was a lot easier to do them with a very long piece of thread, and cut the ends off afterwards. At first I tried doing it with a tiny piece using my tweezers, but that was just frustrating.

Here's a picture of the tea brands and their grains. Hopefully you get some idea how they look:


The one on the right is the one I used on the terrain piece.
The middle one is black tea with a hint of smoke and it has a long grain. It did not work that well, but maybe my mixture was off a bit. It might still have some potential.
The one one the left is just organic green tea and really light colored. It was used on the center of the test piece. It did have the look that I aimed for, but it might very well work for foliage in a swamp area or something.



I got the fireplace almost done during the weekend, but did not quite manage to finish it. Here's some WIP shots and a quick summary:

I wanted to create one more quick prototype so I could try a few more things.
Using a knife, I cut a few test pieces out of foam. I would have used my foam cutter, but I forgot the regulator to my garage.. And when I get an inspiration, it has to be done immeadetely


Some incisions were mad using a hobby knife...


... which then were roughened up using a mold line remover.


Some balsa on the top (roughened up with a wire brush) and some foam core to work as the back wall and the bottom of the fireplace.


Base coated black with acrylic and dry brushed with grey and red.


This is a technique that I read somewhere a while back.
Using some modelling compound, I covered the whole outer surface. Before it dried out, I used a piece of toilet paper to wipe off the excess stuff, so that the "cement" would be left in the crevices. Some of the stuff was left on the surface to create a worn out messy look.
As the paint was still a bit wet (on purpose), the compound got a hint of red tone on it. Real tiles emit some color, so I think this might look a bit more realistic for an old piece of furniture.


Just some finishing touches and it should be ready!

   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut




Surrey, BC - Canada

Ezki,

Excellent tea foliage hill. Never seen anyone do that before.

Cheers,

CB


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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'





USA

Thanks for the tea comparison, Ezki. They fire place is looking excellent, I'm especially impressed with the brickwork and how you aged it with modeling paste. Out of curiosity, do you watch "Bard's Craft" on Youtube? The foam you used for the fire place looks just like what he always uses for crafting. It's a foam I've never seen where I live.

   
Made in fi
Emboldened Warlock





Finland, Espoo

 Syro_ wrote:
Out of curiosity, do you watch "Bard's Craft" on Youtube? The foam you used for the fire place looks just like what he always uses for crafting. It's a foam I've never seen where I live.


No I have not actually watched that channel before. Thanks for the tip! Checked a few videos and got some new ideas already.
After a bit of searching (and by his accent) he also seems to be finnish, so I presume he is using Finnfoam. If that's the case, it's the same stuff I used for the rock, fireplace and the armies on parade board.
Finnfoam is a finnish product, but it's very similar (if not the same) to basic XPS foam (Extruded polystyrene foam), used in home insulation. The more common name for it might be "styrofoam".
It's very common here in Finland, so you can get it basically from any store that sells house renovating supplies.

Note: the stuff that is usually used to support electronic devices in their store packages is EPS foam (Expanded polystyrene foam), which is different. Sometimes the names for these are confusing...

Hopefully this made at least some sense

   
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USA

Thanks Ezki, yes I was curious about the type of XPS foam, it makes sense that you described it as Finnfoam, which I assume is more native to Finnland. Also thanks, I couldn't palce his accent. Here in America XPS foam is usually pink, gray, green, and maybe blue. That translucent milky look of Finnfoam is what stood out to me as an XPS foam that I didn't recognize.

   
 
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