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All the ugly orange cardboard tokens turned me away from the big box to be honest. Just seems very rushed out the door

I was very excited for an updated GW sci-fi skirmish game with modern rules, but I think patience will win in the end. I'll let the dust settle for a few months and then grab the rulebook.

Until GW is able to put out a coherent skirmish game that can compete with how robust and coherent Mordheim is these days, I don't feel the urge to chase.

Game tokens are what 3D printers are for

Speaking of Octarius, just read on Reddit that the combat gauges have sold out. GW sold their Octarius boxes in under 4 days. No idea how many MTO boxes they will manage to sell until 28th.

The first print run of Octarius was supposedly 27,500 copies, and contained the metal gauge for every box.

 tauist wrote:
Speaking of Octarius, just read on Reddit that the combat gauges have sold out. GW sold their Octarius boxes in under 4 days. No idea how many MTO boxes they will manage to sell until 28th.

The first print run of Octarius was supposedly 27,500 copies, and contained the metal gauge for every box.

wasn't MTO just for weekend?

Yes, it was. So if that's Octarius sold out now, that's it gone for good.
Although it still appears to be in stock on the webstore.

During the pre-order week stock often returns shortly when people's payments bounce. Has been that way for the beastsnagga box as well.

tneva82 wrote:

Goose LeChance wrote:

Everything in Kill Team can be made yourself. You can make your own terrain, your own markers/etc. I'm not sure how that's being a freeloader, you don't even need the models unless you really like the look of them.

The only thing you absolutely need to play the New Kill Team is rules and cards.

You are paying for them though. For one making terrain on your own especially if you are doing it just for one board gets surprisingly expensive to start with. You are also paying in time. And in looks.

Indeed.

tneva82 wrote:

 tauist wrote:
Speaking of Octarius, just read on Reddit that the combat gauges have sold out. GW sold their Octarius boxes in under 4 days. No idea how many MTO boxes they will manage to sell until 28th.

The first print run of Octarius was supposedly 27,500 copies, and contained the metal gauge for every box.

wasn't MTO just for weekend?

I think it was, but the preorders do not close until 28th, so who knows how long the MTO offer will remain in place

 tauist wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 tauist wrote:
Speaking of Octarius, just read on Reddit that the combat gauges have sold out. GW sold their Octarius boxes in under 4 days. No idea how many MTO boxes they will manage to sell until 28th.

The first print run of Octarius was supposedly 27,500 copies, and contained the metal gauge for every box.

wasn't MTO just for weekend?

I think it was, but the preorders do not close until 28th, so who knows how long the MTO offer will remain in place

From Warhammer Community:

The extra good news is that we’ve made a pre-order promise – everyone who pre-orders Kill Team: Octarius this weekend will get a copy, so you won’t see the dreaded out-of-stock message. There’s an awful lot of boxes ready to go, of course, but given the global interest in this incredible set, it may not be enough.

GW was consistent in only noting this for the first weekend of the pre-order.

 Ghaz wrote:

 tauist wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 tauist wrote:
Speaking of Octarius, just read on Reddit that the combat gauges have sold out. GW sold their Octarius boxes in under 4 days. No idea how many MTO boxes they will manage to sell until 28th.

The first print run of Octarius was supposedly 27,500 copies, and contained the metal gauge for every box.

wasn't MTO just for weekend?

I think it was, but the preorders do not close until 28th, so who knows how long the MTO offer will remain in place

From Warhammer Community:

The extra good news is that we’ve made a pre-order promise – everyone who pre-orders Kill Team: Octarius this weekend will get a copy, so you won’t see the dreaded out-of-stock message. There’s an awful lot of boxes ready to go, of course, but given the global interest in this incredible set, it may not be enough.

GW was consistent in only noting this for the first weekend of the pre-order.

Yes, but they probably need to sell some predetermined amount of the MTO boxes before pulling the plug, the print run sizes probably cannot be totally arbitrary. So first they sold the 27,500 print run and now the MTO's need to hit some other number, like 10,000 or something (no idea what sort of print run sizes they need to do)

You can make to order just one box, although the unit price would be huge as stuff like set up cost would be immense.

I think this MTO promise was a gamble by GW. They wanted to create some good will by promising it, as this was clearly getting to be a contentious issue.
It also seems they genuinely did produce loads of boxes, and set a relatively small MTO window (they could easily have done all preorders), I think they set the timeline deliberately so that they were very confident they wouldn't sell out. The gamble comes because they could have sold out and now have committed to a MTO which might not be very profitable. But GW makes enough money they could afford the slight hit if it were to be the case.
In the end they haven't sold out so the whole situation is a win-win for GW.

I think it certainly seems to have disrupted scaplers.

The_Real_Chris wrote:
I think it certainly seems to have disrupted scaplers.

Perhaps, but things might change again once the box has sold out everywhere.

By that time the next box will be along

The_Real_Chris wrote:
I think it certainly seems to have disrupted scaplers.

Even if it got a fraction of them to stop it is worth it. Heck just for a few to get burned with stock is a nice feeling to keep my heart warm.

 tauist wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 tauist wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 tauist wrote:
Speaking of Octarius, just read on Reddit that the combat gauges have sold out. GW sold their Octarius boxes in under 4 days. No idea how many MTO boxes they will manage to sell until 28th.

The first print run of Octarius was supposedly 27,500 copies, and contained the metal gauge for every box.

wasn't MTO just for weekend?

I think it was, but the preorders do not close until 28th, so who knows how long the MTO offer will remain in place

From Warhammer Community:

The extra good news is that we’ve made a pre-order promise – everyone who pre-orders Kill Team: Octarius this weekend will get a copy, so you won’t see the dreaded out-of-stock message. There’s an awful lot of boxes ready to go, of course, but given the global interest in this incredible set, it may not be enough.

GW was consistent in only noting this for the first weekend of the pre-order.

Yes, but they probably need to sell some predetermined amount of the MTO boxes before pulling the plug, the print run sizes probably cannot be totally arbitrary. So first they sold the 27,500 print run and now the MTO's need to hit some other number, like 10,000 or something (no idea what sort of print run sizes they need to do)

They've removed the made to order items from the website, over the weekend there was a link to the regular version and also a MTO version, the latter isn't there anymore, so I think once it's gone now, it's gone.

EDIT: My mistake, the MTO link is still on the US site, but it's gone from the EU and UK ones. But still, given it hasn't sold out of regular copies, my guess is they won't have to do MTO at all and at worst can just shuffle around the existing stock.

I know a few people who canceled their orders and went to order off a 3rd party site for the 15-20% off including myself. So GW likely has some stock left over. I also know of a few stores which still have stock not allocated.

gungo wrote:
I know a few people who canceled their orders and went to order off a 3rd party site for the 15-20% off including myself. So GW likely has some stock left over. I also know of a few stores which still have stock not allocated.

That's probably the reason stock was so limited to stores/online retailers. Lure everyone to the official site for the official price.

Unsurprisingly they didn't limit supply of Dominion to retailers.

Was it limited though?

The place I ordered from sold out in 7m. They then called GW, asked for more, and GW said "Sure!".

GW does all sorts of things to lure people to order directly through them - mostly through usless tat like coins or whatever - but it doesn't appear that they were specifically offering unlimited boxes of Ocatrius... but only through them.

But you're in Australia and AllSeeingSkink says things are operating differently there.

My favourite discount store sold out of KT instantly and didn't get any extra copies. People were saying stock was limited to 16 boxes, did that change?

Meanwhile they have tons of unsold Dominion.

Goose LeChance wrote:
But you're in Australia and AllSeeingSkink says things are operating differently there.

They're operating differently insofar as product from the warehouse has slowed due to understaffing. That's it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They're operating differently insofar as product from the warehouse has slowed due to understaffing. That's it.

GWs Australian website says the warehouses are closed and they aren't taking orders

Are the the official GW game stores closed?

Goose LeChance wrote:
GWs Australian website says the warehouses are closed and they aren't taking orders

And several stockists have said that they are still receiving product from GW, just at a slower rate, due to staff shortages.

I don't think any retail stores are open right now, outside of supermarkets, chemists, local food places, and similar items.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Goose LeChance wrote:
GWs Australian website says the warehouses are closed and they aren't taking orders

And several stockists have said that they are still receiving product from GW, just at a slower rate, due to staff shortages.

I don't think any retail stores are open right now, outside of supermarkets, chemists, local food places, and similar items.

Yes, that's the point.

GW cannot sell Kill Team directly to customers in Australia (according to their own website), so they send whatever amount of copies they currently have to any retailers they can.

This isn't true in Canada or America. GW is still taking orders directly.

Goose LeChance wrote:
But you're in Australia and AllSeeingSkink says things are operating differently there.

My favourite discount store sold out of KT instantly and didn't get any extra copies. People were saying stock was limited to 16 boxes, did that change?

Meanwhile they have tons of unsold Dominion.

If you want even more confusion about Australia vs the rest of the world, one of the local discounters was listing stock level and near the start of release they had at least 80 copies (I assume they didn't actually have the physical copies but rather an allotment, but either way, that's what their site was listing when I first checked it).


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Goose LeChance wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Goose LeChance wrote:
GWs Australian website says the warehouses are closed and they aren't taking orders

And several stockists have said that they are still receiving product from GW, just at a slower rate, due to staff shortages.

I don't think any retail stores are open right now, outside of supermarkets, chemists, local food places, and similar items.

Yes, that's the point.

GW cannot sell Kill Team directly to customers in Australia (according to their own website), so they send whatever amount of copies they currently have to any retailers they can.

This isn't true in Canada or America. GW is still taking orders directly.

Yep, that's my theory. GW's online store and also physical GW stores are not taking orders (even the stores that are still open in areas that aren't locked down). My thought is that has both meant GW is more willing to give a larger allotment than normal to 3rd parties, and also means that people who might normally buy from GW or their local store have been pushed to 3rd parties, causing those 3rd parties to shift more stock.

I dunno what GW's plans are, Sydney (where their warehouse is located) is locked down but cases are still going up, given Australia's zero COVID targets, they could be locked down for months more.

My flgs is getting 26 copies of the box, which really doesn't feel that limited after the Beast Snagga one.

My friend works in a local store and says that they were limited to buying boxes in batches of 16 (billed as 15 boxes + 1 free store copy). But they could buy as many as they wanted within that; 16, 32, 48, whatever.
They only bought 16 because they had exactly 16 orders and only sell small amounts post-launch so 32 wouldn't be profitable.

Looks like the Oz GW store is back up taking orders, though weirdly the only KT item is the MTO version of the boxed set. No dice, no books, etc. I imagine they're just reshuffling things ready for tomorrow though.

Just searched on Games Workshop Aus for Kill Team and got no results, click on the Kill Team banner, no results?

 Rolsheen wrote:
Just searched on Games Workshop Aus for Kill Team and got no results, click on the Kill Team banner, no results?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/New-Exclusive?N=4221696349+3206404541&Nr=AND%28sku.siteId%3AAU_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_AU_gw%29&Nrs=collection%28%29%2Frecord%5Bproduct.startDate+%3C%3D+1629543480000+and+product.endDate+%3E%3D+1629543480000%5D

There you go.