6th edition rumour and news summary (1st post updated daily with new info!)

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**streamdragon**

JB wrote:
streamdragon wrote:
Drunkspleen wrote:
streamdragon wrote:Ouch... double whammy for Orks unless trukks get a special exemption from the "No assaulting out of moving vehicles, even open topped ones". Dark Eldar too, I would imagine.

Open Topped vehicles can be assaulted out of, they have a special rule shared with the likes of Land Raiders and Stormravens

Ah, I must have missed that point somewhere. Just saw this:

Are Fast, open-topped Transports still the exception to the 6" disembark rule?

[–]Rixitotal[S] 2 points 7 hours ago
nope

And figured I wouldn't be getting out of any trukk that had gone farther than a Boy could walk.

You still misunderstand how it is rumored to work. Your trukk moves 6", you disembark the passengers up to 6" from any point on the sides of the trukk. In the assault, you move 2D6 inches to, hopefully, make contact with your target. you should also get the 1" extra for a Red Paint Job unless GW changes it in the FAQ.

All open- topped transports have the Assault USR so their passengers are eligible to assault in the same turn that they disembark. Sixth edition still doesn't allow the Rhino Rush, according to the folks that claim to have a rulebook.

Much clearer then. Thank you.

**Harriticus**

Drunkspleen wrote:
BarBoBot wrote:So tau are battle brothers with space marines...

and not the IG who would have let them include a cool gue'vesa attachment, yeah I'm a bit perplexed by it too, presumably some of Ward's fluff will explain it... poorly

A little Wardy told me that the Tau secretly wish to be Ultramarines.

**Breotan**

pretre wrote:
BarBoBot wrote:So tau are battle brothers with space marines...
BB is green. Tau are BB with Eldar only.

Look again.

**Senpai_**

pretre wrote:
BarBoBot wrote:So tau are battle brothers with space marines...

BB is green. Tau are BB with Eldar only.

They are with both Eldar and Space Marines

**quilava1**

hahaha GW posted on their website that "Necrons will love this" (hull points). Of course, when you auto-glance on a 6 and you have a transport with max hull points (and 4 guess on each side) they are going to tend to love it. It also said "fear the land raider" :p yeah right...

**blood lance**

I personally think that the servo skull tape measure is made from the skulls of complacent staff...

**Senpai_**

**blood lance**

quilava1 wrote:hahaha GW posted on their website that "Necrons will love this" (hull points). Of course, when you auto-glance on a 6 and you have a transport with max hull points (and 4 guess on each side) they are going to tend to love it. It also said "fear the land raider" :p yeah right...

Within the white dwarf IIRC it is noted that guass will be changed to 1 automatic hull point lost on the roll of a 6, correct me if Im wrong though.

**streamdragon**

So Space Marines are Brothers in Battle to Tau, but only Allies of Convenience to Sisters of Battle.

ooooookaaaaaaay.....

**Zwan1One**

Harriticus wrote:
Drunkspleen wrote:
BarBoBot wrote:So tau are battle brothers with space marines...

and not the IG who would have let them include a cool gue'vesa attachment, yeah I'm a bit perplexed by it too, presumably some of Ward's fluff will explain it... poorly

A little Wardy told me that the Tau secretly wish to be Ultramarines.

So they can't create the ultimate tank gun line?

**Maige**

Senpai_ wrote:

Looks like I'm not the only one with scans.....
What's the TOS with this? I only posted the matrix so we could compare it to what we had.

**pretre**

Breotan wrote:
pretre wrote:
BarBoBot wrote:So tau are battle brothers with space marines...
BB is green. Tau are BB with Eldar only.
Look again.

Oooh, my bad. My mom was right, I really will go blind.

**quilava1**

blood lance wrote:
quilava1 wrote:hahaha GW posted on their website that "Necrons will love this" (hull points). Of course, when you auto-glance on a 6 and you have a transport with max hull points (and 4 guess on each side) they are going to tend to love it. It also said "fear the land raider" :p yeah right...

Within the white dwarf IIRC it is noted that guass will be changed to 1 automatic hull point lost on the roll of a 6, correct me if Im wrong though.

Your half right. Glances take a hull point automatically, and Necrons auto-glance

**pretre**

Ugh. Someone needs a better camera/scanner.

**Thunderfrog**

Ninjas abound.

**Ahtman**

I was planning on going Tau with IG support and model them as Human Auxiliaries, but now that I know that Firewarriors and Space Marines are the very bestest of friends...

**Lysenis**

Zwan1One wrote:
Harriticus wrote:
Drunkspleen wrote:
BarBoBot wrote:So tau are battle brothers with space marines...

and not the IG who would have let them include a cool gue'vesa attachment, yeah I'm a bit perplexed by it too, presumably some of Ward's fluff will explain it... poorly

A little Wardy told me that the Tau secretly wish to be Ultramarines.

So they can't create the ultimate tank gun line?

Fire Warriors doubletapping at 30" range is going to be somewhat crazy. Even with the horrid BS they still hit 1 of those shots. . . Add in a Dread, a libby, a sternguard squad, and a Tactical Squad and this may cause some issues. . .

All I know that with the way assaulting works I am retooling my lists to be more shooting heavy, which is how I LOVE to play!

**Ovion**

Can someone with a book please post the Force Org Chart page?

Pretty Please?

**Joey**

Maige wrote:

I'll just leave this here.

Nearly all of those icons are completely arbitrary. Is there a text version?

**Sephyr**

Jidmah wrote:Outside of the IG, who did charge terminators with a single 15 point power weapon on the squad leader?

My Khorne Berserkers, all the time. With amazing success.

A Skull Champion in a PW on the charge had 5 attacks, hitting and wounding termis on 3s. That's about 2-3 terminators doing inv saves instead of 2+, and was a nice combo with the torrent of regular attacks put out by regular zerkers.

Zerkers somewhat suck now too, with Furious Charge being nerfed....

**Lysenis**

So My Blood Angels are buddies with Vanilla SM and Space Wolves. . . .hmmm If I go Space Wolves, 2 Grey Hunter squads with a Thunder Wolf Cav support added to my normal Assault Squads and Priests

If I go Vanilla, a Stormtalon as Escort with my Baal Preds. . . . Even though I HATE SW's I may find a way to incorperate them into my armies fluff. . . Goign to be list building aplenty on saturday!

Hmmm or IG. . . .Vendetta's aplenty with a Hydra squadron, With Vets or even a Platoon! God the options!. . . and the costs. . . . .

**Ovion**

Joey wrote:
Maige wrote:

Spoiler:

I'll just leave this here.

Nearly all of those icons are completely arbitrary. Is there a text version?

Allies in Text:

Spoiler:

**BladeWalker**

Objectives and Terrain that effect the battle based on who controls them is awesome. We have played Cities of Death style key buildings and strategems since it came out in our house. I like that all the expansions really did go into playtesting the new ideas for 6th and much of what we liked and kept playing with has made it into the official 6th rules. I think the Allies matrix looks good, I feel rewarded for collecting what I have so far and look forward to adding small units from other allied contingents to both my Imperial and Chaos collections.

Got an email saying my order was shipped late yesterday, not sure what that means but I have a servo skull perimeter set up on look out for a brown box truck...

**Maige**

Let's see how good my eyes are:

If a model has a force weapon with no further special rules, look at the model to see what type it is.

Sword or dagger = Force sword (S:user AP3)
Axe or halberd = Force Axe (S+1 AP2 Unwieldy)
Blunt, staff or mace = Force stave (S+2 AP4 Concussive)

All unusual force weapons with other rules are treated as swords + their rules. (Which means NFW are AP3 plus their usual modifiers)

I can't read the flyer page.

Also in regards to the matrix, it seems to match up with the one we already had except for the part about self allying. So no 3rd HQ <2000pt etc.

**Morathi's Darkest Sin**

Ah, so there is the proof for no Battle brothers with you own book, which is nice. I'm sure they'll still have it for the doubles tournies where it is logical to have Orks/Orks etc, but for this allies system I'm glad its not there.

On a side note, I've looked in the first post and am either blind or its not there, but what does Heavy do, for vehicles?

**Thimn**

So it looks like Tyranids are unable to even ally with themselves so all the people hoping for access to more elite slots will be more disappointed now.

Black Templars like the Tau and Eldar more then the Sisters of Battle, its very odd.... almost.... heretical!

**Grey elder**

And the Saga of the 2+ armoured warrior was born.
Say hello to my little Friend
Draigo
Logan
Belial.

**BarBoBot**

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Ah, so there is the proof for no Battle brothers with you own book, which is nice. I'm sure they'll still have it for the doubles tournies where it is logical to have Orks/Orks etc, but for this allies system I'm glad its not there.

On a side note, I've looked in the first post and am either blind or its not there, but what does Heavy do, for vehicles?

Why would a codex need to ally with its self?

At 2000 points the FOC doubles and the HQ and troop minimums double automatically

**Morathi's Darkest Sin**

Yeah, but folks have been talking about people talking an extra HQ and the slots it gives in sub 2000pt lists, which seemed a bit 'working the system' but GW obviously thought of that..

**Ahtman**

BarBoBot wrote:Why would a codex need to ally with its self?

At 2000 points the FOC doubles and the HQ and troop minimums double automatically

Sometimes, and bear with me on this, sometimes people play games that are under 2000 points.