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1: Lack of dentistry - I have caps on my front teeth and one falls off every couple of years (it broke sunday night). Noone to fix them would be a real downer.


People always look at the short term survival aspect but not the long term annoyances (becoming a zombie in not planned)

2: Medication is a big one. Even if you're able to scrounge some, it'd run out fairly quickly.

Zombie attacks aside, the mortality rate among the elderly -- and infants, for that matter -- would skyrocket.

My major thing would be tooth paste. Sure Id be pretty well off for awhile. But after a few years...then what? Im crazy anal about my teeth.

Also food supply. If more people survive then the movies show, the wild life wont be able to sustain a huge group of people. What if they themselves get infected? How the hell are we going to eat?

5: Lack of clothes making ability. Once they are worn out they are gone for good. I don't know how to spin wool (the only viable option, apart from skins post the stone agification of tech levels). And I have a rough idea how to prepare a skin, but not sure if will get a decent finish to it.

Clothes last for a really long time, and department stores clothes racks were probably not looted if the buildings are intact and not taken over by zombies. The biggest problem would be finding the right sizes I guess.

Making repairs.

You'd have to scavange for replacement parts, and if it's anything more complicated than say, a bicycle, you'll need speacialized tools and someone with the training to make the repair.

666. Conformity- I would simply find the nearest zombie and join the latest fad.

42. Reading- Less time for reading when fearing for life.

13. No more Bruce Campbell movies- And yet watching his movies about zombies garners no useful information to fight them. :(

The biggest problem I could see would be medical needs beyond simple broken bones,stitches and such.
No matter how well armed or well stocked you are,if your appendix ruptures,and you don't have a trained Doctor on hand your pretty much JWF.

I'd think it'd be a temporary event, like a really bad hurricane worldwide. Again, the ferocity of shambling zombies that can be defeated by cricket bats has been severely overestimated.

Frazzled walks in and "deals with" the local DMV with a 5 iron and bucket of golf balls.
Passer by: "Wow thats a lot of zombies!"
Frazzled: "They were zombies?"

Passer by runs away very quickly.

Frazzled wrote:I'd think it'd be a temporary event, like a really bad hurricane worldwide. Again, the ferocity of shambling zombies that can be defeated by cricket bats has been severely overestimated.

Frazzled walks in and "deals with" the local DMV with a 5 iron and bucket of golf balls.
Passer by: "Wow thats a lot of zombies!"
Frazzled: "They were zombies?"

Passer by runs away very quickly.

You forgot the obligatory weiner dog.

WarOne wrote:

Frazzled wrote:I'd think it'd be a temporary event, like a really bad hurricane worldwide. Again, the ferocity of shambling zombies that can be defeated by cricket bats has been severely overestimated.

Frazzled walks in and "deals with" the local DMV with a 5 iron and bucket of golf balls.
Passer by: "Wow thats a lot of zombies!"
Frazzled: "They were zombies?"

Passer by runs away very quickly.

You forgot the obligatory weiner dog.

Who do you think catches the passer by?

Frazzled wrote:

WarOne wrote:

Frazzled wrote:I'd think it'd be a temporary event, like a really bad hurricane worldwide. Again, the ferocity of shambling zombies that can be defeated by cricket bats has been severely overestimated.

Frazzled walks in and "deals with" the local DMV with a 5 iron and bucket of golf balls.
Passer by: "Wow thats a lot of zombies!"
Frazzled: "They were zombies?"

Passer by runs away very quickly.

You forgot the obligatory weiner dog.

Who do you think catches the passer by?

Texas?

WarOne wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

WarOne wrote:

Frazzled wrote:I'd think it'd be a temporary event, like a really bad hurricane worldwide. Again, the ferocity of shambling zombies that can be defeated by cricket bats has been severely overestimated.

Frazzled walks in and "deals with" the local DMV with a 5 iron and bucket of golf balls.
Passer by: "Wow thats a lot of zombies!"
Frazzled: "They were zombies?"

Passer by runs away very quickly.

You forgot the obligatory weiner dog.

Who do you think catches the passer by?

Texas?

Ancient Buddha say: Beware of states chasing you!

Frazzled wrote:I'd think it'd be a temporary event, like a really bad hurricane worldwide. Again, the ferocity of shambling zombies that can be defeated by cricket bats has been severely overestimated.

Frazzled walks in and "deals with" the local DMV with a 5 iron and bucket of golf balls.
Passer by: "Wow thats a lot of zombies!"
Frazzled: "They were zombies?"

Passer by runs away very quickly.

I think your underestimating how many zombies the world would be faced with,if you look at the geometric nature with which the virus spreads,there could easily be over 200 million zombies with in a months time,at the end of the second month...well,I don't know that all the wiener dogs in Texas would be able to help you.

FITZZ wrote:

Frazzled wrote:I'd think it'd be a temporary event, like a really bad hurricane worldwide. Again, the ferocity of shambling zombies that can be defeated by cricket bats has been severely overestimated.

Frazzled walks in and "deals with" the local DMV with a 5 iron and bucket of golf balls.
Passer by: "Wow thats a lot of zombies!"
Frazzled: "They were zombies?"

Passer by runs away very quickly.

I think your underestimating how many zombies the world would be faced with,if you look at the geometric nature with which the virus spreads,there could easily be over 200 million zombies with in a months time,at the end of the second month...well,I don't know that all the wiener dogs in Texas would be able to help you.

Geometric number based on...what?

Viral and becteriologic spreads are substantially lower. As noted I can't wack the ebola vvirus with a shotgun. Further, to spread the disease you have to survive being eaten. If the zombies are so badass how does it spread when they literally eat the carriers?

Geometric numbers based on bite=infected.

For example,if you take a penny and double it geometrically for a month,at the end of that month you'd have over a Million dollars.
So,if you use the same formula for the spread of infection via bite,1 person bites another,they each go on to bite one person,those four go on to make eight..etc,you have a fair amount of zombies pretty quickly.
That is of course if you operate from the premise that there would be more than one " initial host" or "patient zero".
But even if there was simply one initial host,the chances of infection going unchecked remain fairly high.

FITZZ wrote: Geometric numbers based on bite=infected.

For example,if you take a penny and double it geometrically for a month,at the end of that month you'd have over a Million dollars.
So,if you use the same formula for the spread of infection via bite,1 person bites another,they each go on to bite one person,those four go on to make eight..etc,you have a fair amount of zombies pretty quickly.
That is of course if you operate from the premise that there would be more than one " initial host" or "patient zero".
But even if there was simply one initial host,the chances of infection going unchecked remain fairly high.

Then you're assumptions are way way off.

1. It wouldn't be geometric, it would be curve. Steep initially, then flattening rapidly, then declining, probably with a moderately long tail.
2. Your baseline 1 bite doubly time frame is clearly off.
3. Lagging factors are not accounted for.

Plumbing. I'd miss plumbing...

While not a zombie apocalypse, Book of Eli painted a nice portrait of how difficult life would get once society as a whole falls, including the lack of indoor plumbing.

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote: Geometric numbers based on bite=infected.

For example,if you take a penny and double it geometrically for a month,at the end of that month you'd have over a Million dollars.
So,if you use the same formula for the spread of infection via bite,1 person bites another,they each go on to bite one person,those four go on to make eight..etc,you have a fair amount of zombies pretty quickly.
That is of course if you operate from the premise that there would be more than one " initial host" or "patient zero".
But even if there was simply one initial host,the chances of infection going unchecked remain fairly high.

Then you're assumptions are way way off.

1. It wouldn't be geometric, it would be curve. Steep initially, then flattening rapidly, then declining, probably with a moderately long tail.
2. Your baseline 1 bite doubly time frame is clearly off.
3. Lagging factors are not accounted for.

Hmm, you have some good points Frazz...further research will be required on my part.

FITZZ wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote: Geometric numbers based on bite=infected.

For example,if you take a penny and double it geometrically for a month,at the end of that month you'd have over a Million dollars.
So,if you use the same formula for the spread of infection via bite,1 person bites another,they each go on to bite one person,those four go on to make eight..etc,you have a fair amount of zombies pretty quickly.
That is of course if you operate from the premise that there would be more than one " initial host" or "patient zero".
But even if there was simply one initial host,the chances of infection going unchecked remain fairly high.

Then you're assumptions are way way off.

1. It wouldn't be geometric, it would be curve. Steep initially, then flattening rapidly, then declining, probably with a moderately long tail.
2. Your baseline 1 bite doubly time frame is clearly off.
3. Lagging factors are not accounted for.

Hmm, you have some good points Frazz...further research will be required on my part.

I recommend Zombie:CSU by Jonathan Maberry.

I would hate the eventual lack of everything...especially losing the internet as a resource to learn how to do stuff would be a major blow.

Gavin Thorne wrote:Plumbing. I'd miss plumbing...

While not a zombie apocalypse, Book of Eli painted a nice portrait of how difficult life would get once society as a whole falls, including the lack of indoor plumbing.

+

Any other problems need solving? I went with the fun turtle seat, simply because in a world that gakky, you need something to make you smile. Even if its just before the foul order hits you from the previous 3 days use

Well, I was referring to (relatively) clean running water or "indoor plumbing" - of which the flush toilet is obviously difficult to use without. Without the infrastructure being maintained, water will stop flowing in and out, making the prospect of finding safe drinking, washing, and cooking water in Zombieland significantly more difficult...

Ok add 2x4 boards over a water fall. There running water


Yea I know its fun to imagine what you would do in zombieland and all but in all honesty, it would be HORRIBLY bad. Like you said, something as simple as drinking water would become hard to come by. It would also be alot more effort to make usable water drinkable.

Good thread.

1.Lack of proper sleep. How can I sleep knowing that a zombie could just eat my face off in my sleep?

2. Lack of washing machines. Sure you can just steal clothes from the remnants of strip-malls, but what about your favorite shirt? Those nice colorful socks you wore to prom?

3. Scarcity of booze. I'd probably need a bottle of jack every couple hours to keep me from killing myself, so unless I lived next to a JD factory, I'd be gak out of luck.

4. No internet. If I can't post on dakka and watch corn, I have no reason to live, much less kill zombies.

5. Music. I'd have to use a car or something to charge my ipod. That blows.

A couple more that I don't need to explain:

Lack of new clothes
Lack of fourchin
lack of communication
lack of a guitar amp
lack of fettuccine alfredo

Samus_aran115 wrote:
lack of a guitar amp

Acoustics are better anyways.


Also Id like to add the fact that I would never know what time or day it actually is. I know that sounds weird, but it bothers me when I forget, and just not knowing would be bad for me

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:5: Lack of clothes making ability. Once they are worn out they are gone for good. I don't know how to spin wool (the only viable option, apart from skins post the stone agification of tech levels). And I have a rough idea how to prepare a skin, but not sure if will get a decent finish to it.

Its the apocalypse... who is going to care if you're running around in the buff?

KingCracker wrote:Ok add 2x4 boards over a water fall. There running water


Yea I know its fun to imagine what you would do in zombieland and all but in all honesty, it would be HORRIBLY bad. Like you said, something as simple as drinking water would become hard to come by. It would also be alot more effort to make usable water drinkable.

I've thought of this one actually, as long as there is some form of electricity (gas generator/wind/solar) then dehumidifiers are the way to go

Ma55ter_fett wrote:

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:5: Lack of clothes making ability. Once they are worn out they are gone for good. I don't know how to spin wool (the only viable option, apart from skins post the stone agification of tech levels). And I have a rough idea how to prepare a skin, but not sure if will get a decent finish to it.

Its the apocalypse... who is going to care if you're running around in the buff?

You list your location as Minnesota. If that's true, I suggest you strip down and sleep outside tonight.

(Make sure to have 911 already queued up on your cell phone. Your hands will be too numb to work those tiny little buttons.)

Grakmar wrote:

Ma55ter_fett wrote:

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:5: Lack of clothes making ability. Once they are worn out they are gone for good. I don't know how to spin wool (the only viable option, apart from skins post the stone agification of tech levels). And I have a rough idea how to prepare a skin, but not sure if will get a decent finish to it.

Its the apocalypse... who is going to care if you're running around in the buff?

You list your location as Minnesota. If that's true, I suggest you strip down and sleep outside tonight.

(Make sure to have 911 already queued up on your cell phone. Your hands will be too numb to work those tiny little buttons.)

Never said "I" was going to run around in the buff.

Just suggesting to Waaagh_Gonads that running around northern Australia in naught but what you were born in doesn't sound like the most terrible of fates.

Yeah, it totally depends on the style of zombie. "Infected" type ala 28 days later, it would be a hold up til it blows over situation - by the way, was anyone else super pissed off at the second one and them "looking for a cure". The cure was lots of bullets and fire, and don't let it spread.

If it's like the new Dawn of the Dead - runners that are fully dead, we could have some problems.

Shamblers, I just don't see as being able to overwhelm the world at large, unless a whole lot of people make a whole lot of incredibly stupid decisions. That's been my problem with The Walking Dead, much as I love the show so far. How do they spread from city to city in large enough numbers quickly enough to overcome all resistance? All it takes is a good chain link fence to stop anything except overwhelming hordes.

Bromsy wrote:Yeah, it totally depends on the style of zombie. "Infected" type ala 28 days later, it would be a hold up til it blows over situation - by the way, was anyone else super pissed off at the second one and them "looking for a cure". The cure was lots of bullets and fire, and don't let it spread.

If it's like the new Dawn of the Dead - runners that are fully dead, we could have some problems.

Shamblers, I just don't see as being able to overwhelm the world at large, unless a whole lot of people make a whole lot of incredibly stupid decisions. That's been my problem with The Walking Dead, much as I love the show so far. How do they spread from city to city in large enough numbers quickly enough to overcome all resistance? All it takes is a good chain link fence to stop anything except overwhelming hordes.

First part, yes. The 2nd wasnt a horrible movie, but yea there were parts that annoyed me about it. Yea I too would just hold up like a hermit forawhile and let it die out.

Yes

Really? You are letting the fact that they are slow cloud how dangerous they are. Also a scratch or bite can infect you. Youve ALSO got to remember that in a situation like that, the military will set up "safe zones" where they will be taking people in at first. Thats where the zombie infection will breed like crazy. Then people will run away from there to hide, and naturally there will be people that are infected and either not know it at first, or wont tell anyone. BAM POW!!!!! Another small out break. And so on and so on and so on.

Sure we will be able to run past them if they are in small numbers, but in big groups man, its been said many times.