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I have a standard poodle, a bull terrier, an english bulldog and two chinese cresteds (and 8 horses and a goat!) to contribute.

I repectfully submit the chinese cresteds act as zombie snacks/diversions...

Jake

Now there is a man gifted with animals.

Frazzled wrote:Now there is a man cursed with animals.

Fixed that for ya!

My wife would have MORE critters if she had her way. We would have a lot less if I had my way.

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KingCracker wrote:I like all those but 2, and thats only because I havnt seen them. Colin and Zombie. Netflix maybe?

Colin is available on Netflix...unfortunatly , "Zombie" ( and most of Lucio Fulci works) is not.
Still waiting to see if Netflix releases " Berlin Undead" AKA "Rammbock" anytime soon, heard they supposed to, but have yet to see it up.

Colin eh? Well I know what IM watching tonight

I have to wonder how many people here have read the Zombie Survival Guide, really. There seems to be a disturbing reliance on projectile weaponry.

Yes, it's nice to keep them from getting to you, but what happens when you invariably run out of bullets (since I'm assuming Zombie Horde conditions, around a level 3 breakout) and they start advancing on your doors?

Me, I say screw the firearms. Crossbow for when you have the high ground and they're far enough away, but other than that, I'll take a poleax or staff for mid-range (keep them far enough away that they can't bite- plus incredible impact forces) and a Ditch-blade or mace and small round-shield for close range.

Melee weapons never run out of ammo.

Anvildude wrote:I have to wonder how many people here have read the Zombie Survival Guide, really. There seems to be a disturbing reliance on projectile weaponry.

Yes, it's nice to keep them from getting to you, but what happens when you invariably run out of bullets (since I'm assuming Zombie Horde conditions, around a level 3 breakout) and they start advancing on your doors?

Me, I say screw the firearms. Crossbow for when you have the high ground and they're far enough away, but other than that, I'll take a poleax or staff for mid-range (keep them far enough away that they can't bite- plus incredible impact forces) and a Ditch-blade or mace and small round-shield for close range.

Melee weapons never run out of ammo.

But they can break.

So can a gun. Especially if you're reduced to using it as a club. A properly built melee weapon, on the other hand, is much less likely to break, and much more effective at dispatching the zombie.

And I'm not talking about fantasy swords, or 10 dollar katanas here. I'm talking about taking a 2x4x6, splitting it, and rounding it out. Or cutting down a sapling and stripping off the branches. Or getting a 3/4" diameter threaded steel rod and screwing some nuts and chunks of iron to it to make a mace. Things that are either so easy to replace you wouldn't even need to stockpile them, or that are so tough, you could drop them from 30,000 feet and they'd still be usable.

Tough garden spades or crowbars are the ultimate anti zombie weapons.

coolyo294 wrote:

Anvildude wrote:I have to wonder how many people here have read the Zombie Survival Guide, really. There seems to be a disturbing reliance on projectile weaponry.

Yes, it's nice to keep them from getting to you, but what happens when you invariably run out of bullets (since I'm assuming Zombie Horde conditions, around a level 3 breakout) and they start advancing on your doors?

Me, I say screw the firearms. Crossbow for when you have the high ground and they're far enough away, but other than that, I'll take a poleax or staff for mid-range (keep them far enough away that they can't bite- plus incredible impact forces) and a Ditch-blade or mace and small round-shield for close range.

Melee weapons never run out of ammo.

But they can break.

That depends on what kind of melee weapon you're talking about; a crowbar is unlikely to break or shatter in most cases, whereas you might get through one zombie skull with a broomstick before it shatters...

actually come to think of it, if you're facing a zombie with nothing but a broomstick you're pretty fethed anyway...

Depends on the broom. Some of those big industrial push brooms have solid ash handles an inch thick. Stick a little spearhead on in the form of a small spade head or a ground-down ice scraper, and you have a decent weapon.

Anvildude wrote:Depends on the broom. Some of those big industrial push brooms have solid ash handles an inch thick. Stick a little spearhead on in the form of a small spade head or a ground-down ice scraper, and you have a decent weapon.

I could see that working in a pinch, however it's not something I'd want to count on long term...
I personally think the best CC weapons are the simple ones though...Good machetes, aluminum baseball bats, metal pipes, police riot sticks, crowbars, axes...things of that nature
Anything more complicated than this is just silly IMO...

FITZZ wrote:

Anvildude wrote:Depends on the broom. Some of those big industrial push brooms have solid ash handles an inch thick. Stick a little spearhead on in the form of a small spade head or a ground-down ice scraper, and you have a decent weapon.

I could see that working in a pinch, however it's not something I'd want to count on long term...
I personally think the best CC weapons are the simple ones though...Good machetes, aluminum baseball bats, metal pipes, police riot sticks, crowbars, axes...things of that nature
Anything more complicated than this is just silly IMO...

What about one of those with a chain?

Yeah, give me a good flanged mace any day. Not one of the fancy ones, though, with the little curliques and protrusions- those might get stuck on some bone, leave you without a weapon.

Slarg232 wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Anvildude wrote:Depends on the broom. Some of those big industrial push brooms have solid ash handles an inch thick. Stick a little spearhead on in the form of a small spade head or a ground-down ice scraper, and you have a decent weapon.

I could see that working in a pinch, however it's not something I'd want to count on long term...
I personally think the best CC weapons are the simple ones though...Good machetes, aluminum baseball bats, metal pipes, police riot sticks, crowbars, axes...things of that nature
Anything more complicated than this is just silly IMO...

What about one of those with a chain?

Personally I'd avoid them...most are cheap copies, not tried and true combat gear, and if you did get a real one they would still have drawbacks..
While they would be devastating if you connected with your target, being a chain weapon they could also easily throw you of balance if you missed, plus returning to a combat ready posture with them ( IMO) would be more difficult than it would be with a more simple CC weapon in case of multiple zombies.

Point taken. I suppose a simple blunt object would serve me better than a more complicated blunt object.

Personally, I'd prefer one of these "In case of zombies"



Because I have experience swinging one (obviously not at people but I'm familiar with the weight.)

WARORK93 wrote:Personally, I'd prefer one of these "In case of zombies"



Because I have experience swinging one (obviously not at people but I'm familiar with the weight.)

The blade would get dull after a few zombies, is the problem I would have with an Axe.

Slarg232 wrote:Point taken. I suppose a simple blunt object would serve me better than a more complicated blunt object.

Exactly, your average citizen ( no matter how much they may want to be) is not a Knight or a Ninja, trying to utilize some "fancy" weapon would only likely get them killed..
Most people however have swung a baseball bat, and if not...a "club" isn't that hard to figure out...swing...*Splat*...Next.

FITZZ wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:Point taken. I suppose a simple blunt object would serve me better than a more complicated blunt object.

Exactly, your average citizen ( no matter how much they may want to be) is not a Knight or a Ninja, trying to utilize some "fancy" weapon would only likely get them killed..
Most people however have swung a baseball bat, and if not...a "club" isn't that hard to figure out...swing...*Splat*...Next.

Aye, tis a sad day indeed when a man doesn't know how to use a blunt object.

Slarg232 wrote:

WARORK93 wrote:Personally, I'd prefer one of these "In case of zombies"



Because I have experience swinging one (obviously not at people but I'm familiar with the weight.)

The blade would get dull after a few zombies, is the problem I would have with an Axe.

Depends really, if you put a propper edge on it you should be good for quite a while, biggest problem is moving it with you from point a to b

Slarg232 wrote:

WARORK93 wrote:Personally, I'd prefer one of these "In case of zombies"



Because I have experience swinging one (obviously not at people but I'm familiar with the weight.)

The blade would get dull after a few zombies, is the problem I would have with an Axe.

True, but the weight and wedge shape of the metal ax head would still effectively crush skulls and destroy brain.

And you could always flip it around and use the spike.

But yeah, a flail would be entirely impractical for zombies. The chain adds extroardinary momentum, yes, but the primary use of a flail was to disorient and intimidate foes, and get around their defences- all things that aren't a problem with zombies.

Anvildude wrote:And you could always flip it around and use the spike.

But yeah, a flail would be entirely impractical for zombies. The chain adds extroardinary momentum, yes, but the primary use of a flail was to disorient and intimidate foes, and get around their defences- all things that aren't a problem with zombies.

Biggest thing with a flail was its use from horseback, but on foot it was fairly worthless.

Anvildude wrote:And you could always flip it around and use the spike.

But yeah, a flail would be entirely impractical for zombies. The chain adds extroardinary momentum, yes, but the primary use of a flail was to disorient and intimidate foes, and get around their defences- all things that aren't a problem with zombies.

Exactly, when combating zombies you don't concern yourself with "style" or "shock and awe" or " getting around defences"....keep it simple and keep it lethal.


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Basic zombie survival weapons load out....

Simple primary rifle...



Basic reliable sidearm...



Simple CC weapon...



...And maybe a "just in case"...



....Pretty much all the weapons you could need.

Crossbow is worse than a rifle, slower to reload, ammo is harder to come by and harder to lug around. Example, basic load for my M4 is 7 mags, each with 30 rounds. That is what is easily stored in on body ammo pouches. How do you cary 210 crossbow bolts?

As for being stuck in the horde situation, you are a gonner anyway. The trick is to not get in that situation.

I don't care what melee weapon you have, you need a couple things. Room to use it (gotta be able to get a good swing or jab with them) AND strength endurance to KEEP using it.

Ideal situation, you can defend a hallway or door way where only 2-4 rotters can get at you at a time. How long can YOU swing a bat or machete or your nice long and heavy pole axe with enough force to crush skulls, decapitate bodies or sever limbs? I've worked clearing land with a machette and axe. I've also recently built a hay trough out of railroad cross ties that needed to be spiked together with 10 inch spikes using a 5 pound hand sledge. My 19 year old ROTC cadet super stud son helped and was quickly tired out. Pounding in ONE spike takes a lot out of you. 12 kicks your ass. That is probably less than 150 swings with that hammer. How many swings does it take to clear away a 'Level 3' horde of thousands of undead?

I think good boots I can run in are a better investment, that and the common sense to stay out of a horde situation.

So yeah, a good close combat weapon is smart to have, but not against a horde.

And it is worthless as tits on a snowman against the group of Hells Henchmen or Outlaws that are all armed to the teeth with fire arms.

Jake

Get a shotgun, why?

My main problem is that I'm a type 1 diabetic so I need insulin injections... insulin needs to be kept cool which would be a problem as would supplies of it.

No insulin = slow death

No food = quick death.

That said I have accidentally acquired 2 machetes and I can shoot guns. Getting the guns would be a problem as the UK is less 'gun friendly'. I'd need to figure where the nearest gun-store was.

I also can't drive.

So I'm buggered royally.

There is a shotgun shop not far from me, however it is in the middle of the town center and is relatively fortified...