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One of my favorite titans of all time had the Nurgle head, the rubble claws, Mace tail (Tail 2), 1 macro cannon, 1 powerfist, and 2 multi-launchers I think. I used contour putty to make all sorts of rotting goop and stuff on him. Amateur-ly hideous you might say. But back then we didn't have the skills peeps have today.

I didn't go on a chaos crusade without him. I loved Nurgle in SM1. I named him too but since forgot what it was. I named all my titans actually.

My favorite one was a Stormlord Warlord I called Bruticus. I think I stole that name from Transformers. My new Warlord will be named the same. And then I will enslave you all.

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Ok so this is a first for me - but does show why 360 views are important!

I've been trying very hard (for once) to stick to one game and one army and have been doing ok recently stick to Daughters of Khaine. However on the previous page someone linked to the FW red, black and cold titan page. And I got to looking around the FW Warlord for a bit. For the first time (as I'd never really looked at it that close as I was never buying one) I saw the defence guns - the four or so fore and after guns that hang down to give it point defence.

For some reason that tipped me over when I then saw on the AT version those same guns on the rear (I can't quite tell if they are on the forward or not but I think they are there). For some reason that, the little terminal at the back, the railing - all that flew back all those memories of the Imperator (which was my first model desire ever for the whole of wargaming - that one massive model with its castle on it back).

A few moments later and - well - I'm now waiting for a mighty plastic Warlord in the post! The power of NOSTALGIA mixed with newness has worked its magic once more.



Epic was always my first love, in fact I sort of only shifted to 40K slowly by accident as Epic wound down and then died off. This just brings back the old Titan Legions and those epic striding weapons of supreme war! And after 119 pages, rear mounted defence guns, railings, gah I just couldn't resist any more.

I should also point out that between Warlord Reaver Warhound and Imperator the Warlord was always last for me in the favourites list (granted the old warlord was more blocky in design). So I'm SUPER excited for my LEAST favourite titan! (In the Imperial range)

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Yeah the Warlord I think has always been the weakest of the designs (whether you are talking about Mk 1, Mk 2, or Mk 3). The original Reaver though - one of my favorite models of all time. Perfect size, look, weight. Love the guy. Doesn't overpower small games, and still plays a part in big ones.

I think the Warlords were fun because of the 4 weapon slots and all the variation of weapons you could do. Throw in a close combat head and a tail on the original one and you have a kickass traitor titan. It even seems the new ones link the carapace ones, so you only have 3 weapon choices (including the arms). Kinda disappointing if that is the case.

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 zedmeister wrote:
That ain't no conversion. Those are genuine parts:


I know, by saying conversion I was referring to some of the added details like the chain to the trident plunged into the dead warhound, or the fumes coming out of the power saw arms, which actually are conversions too, they are different from the genuine power saw component

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Reaver I think was great all round; not just in how it was such a versatile toolbox of options (even in the pre-magnet swapping weapons era); but also its weapons were all well sized for it. The old Warlord the upper shoulder guns always looked oddly sized for it, just too big. I think the old one also looked too boxy without the impressive power of the Imperator; whilst lacking the sleeker mobility of the reaver and warhound.
The 40K Warlord, whilst not considered the most popular, I actually liked more than the original as its weapons seemed made for it and in scale.

So yeah the new design really improves in so many areas over the old one! Even those big tripple barrel guns look great on it (and yes I have to look at the fullsize FW one to see them at present - hopefully GW don't make us wait long for the weapon upgrade sprue).


Like several here I was sad that I only ever had the one reaver - now - now I will own more than one!

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Overread wrote:...snip...

A few moments later and - well - I'm now waiting for a mighty plastic Warlord in the post! The power of NOSTALGIA mixed with newness has worked its magic once more.

Epic was always my first love, in fact I sort of only shifted to 40K slowly by accident as Epic wound down and then died off. This just brings back the old Titan Legions and those epic striding weapons of supreme war! And after 119 pages, rear mounted defence guns, railings, gah I just couldn't resist any more.

I should also point out that between Warlord Reaver Warhound and Imperator the Warlord was always last for me in the favourites list (granted the old warlord was more blocky in design). So I'm SUPER excited for my LEAST favourite titan! (In the Imperial range)


We all break eventually

The Warlord was naff in 2nd. With the 2+ save reactor housing and 900(!) points cost, it wasn't worth it. If they priced it at 700-750, that'd been better.


Mendi Warrior wrote:I know, by saying conversion I was referring to some of the added details like the chain to the trident plunged into the dead warhound, or the fumes coming out of the power saw arms, which actually are conversions too, they are different from the genuine power saw component


Ah, fair dos. I stand corrected. The chains are now reminding me of an ancient 1990's Golden Daemon entrant who converted 2 Warhounds to look like they're baying and a Warlord holding their leashes
   
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 zedmeister wrote:

The chains are now reminding me of an ancient 1990's Golden Daemon entrant who converted 2 Warhounds to look like they're baying and a Warlord holding their leashes


Must be this one then

Just love this warhound too
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I really hope FW gives us a resin of one of the classic (as I see it) warhound heads

Also its impressive that the rhino has remained SO unchanged through all its years!

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 Overread wrote:
Warships use camouflage to help break up their appearance, I think since around WW1/2 times to present at the very least (if not earlier). So there's argument there for camo on huge targets.

Context is important, a Warlord is vast but it fights in vast environments. The battlefields we setup could be many levels up atop huge hive cities. There is thus still value in camo even if it only has a marginal bonus. Every little bit helps

I agree, but then you have a few Primarchs be stupid enough to say "camouflage is the color of cowardice". So much for superhuman intellect, eh?

To be fair though, Robby G for one wasn't dumb and there are quite a few of camouflage patterns in Codex. Badab War books even have SM in 'modern' ones used in more extreme warzones...
   
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 Irbis wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Warships use camouflage to help break up their appearance, I think since around WW1/2 times to present at the very least (if not earlier). So there's argument there for camo on huge targets.

Context is important, a Warlord is vast but it fights in vast environments. The battlefields we setup could be many levels up atop huge hive cities. There is thus still value in camo even if it only has a marginal bonus. Every little bit helps

I agree, but then you have a few Primarchs be stupid enough to say "camouflage is the color of cowardice". So much for superhuman intellect, eh?

To be fair though, Robby G for one wasn't dumb and there are quite a few of camouflage patterns in Codex. Badab War books even have SM in 'modern' ones used in more extreme warzones...


I suppose one could argue that if you were a superhuman Primarch and never in your formative years had to realistically face a threat that you couldn't just beat down or heal from, you might not see much value in hiding and being sneaky. Sure, maybe on an intellectual level you might see why normal humans might need to, but not you the Primarch or your genetic sons, the Marines.
   
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 Overread wrote:
I really hope FW gives us a resin of one of the classic (as I see it) warhound heads

Also its impressive that the rhino has remained SO unchanged through all its years!


And the alternative Reaver head too!
   
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 KTG17 wrote:
One of my favorite titans of all time had the Nurgle head, the rubble claws, Mace tail (Tail 2), 1 macro cannon, 1 powerfist, and 2 multi-launchers I think. I used contour putty to make all sorts of rotting goop and stuff on him. Amateur-ly hideous you might say. But back then we didn't have the skills peeps have today.

I didn't go on a chaos crusade without him. I loved Nurgle in SM1. I named him too but since forgot what it was. I named all my titans actually.

My favorite one was a Stormlord Warlord I called Bruticus. I think I stole that name from Transformers. My new Warlord will be named the same. And then I will enslave you all.



I intend on naming all my titans.

I'm currenty putting together random name ideas as they Come to me

Dominus Rex
Divina Irae
Lupus Rex (Proably gonna name a warhound this)
Dominus Bello (roughly translates to "Lord of War" seems amusingly ironic)
Victoria Martia
Maxima Bellator
Ferrus Rex
Promethus (a cookie to the first person to know why)


anyway just some names I cooked up

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Prometheus gonna be a flamer-Warhound God-Engine who brings his enemies the "gift" of fire?

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Love naming my Titans. Some of my old favourites that'll be resurrected:

Inritus Cursor
Audax lux lucis
Sol Solis Incendia
Letum Invenio Omnis
   
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 Nostromodamus wrote:
Prometheus gonna be a flamer-Warhound God-Engine who brings his enemies the "gift" of fire?


Nope.

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 zedmeister wrote:
Mendi Warrior wrote:
 Mysterio wrote:
I hope all of the more esoteric Titan weapons eventually make a return too.

In particular, the Trident, Wrecker and - the best one - the Harpoon!


An excellent conversion I found on the web a while ago, titled "Butcher Titan of Khorne - apocolocyntosis".


That ain't no conversion. Those are genuine parts:


Sorry to burst some bubbles, but those sawblades are from current Ork kits. I can't tell for sure on the right arm, but the left is (with some cutting and filing) from the Killakan kit.
   
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Mendi Warrior wrote:
 zedmeister wrote:

The chains are now reminding me of an ancient 1990's Golden Daemon entrant who converted 2 Warhounds to look like they're baying and a Warlord holding their leashes


Must be this one then

Just love this warhound too


I have that WD I think it was the first GD coverage I had ever seen. It may have been the first WD I ever owned actually. That particular entry was so impressive to me. Really tickled my 12 yr old humour. A titan taking his dogs for a walk
   
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The million dollar question.

Is it doing well enough that we will see Xenos at some point?
   
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Ask again in 2-3 years,

I don't think anything that happens with it now will really boost the chances of Xenos coming in (although if the launch had bombed it would have killed it)

whats going to matter is steady, profit making sales continuing up to the point they've run out of Imperial (and later Chaos) stuff

If that happens then Xenos have a good shot

 
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
 KTG17 wrote:
One of my favorite titans of all time had the Nurgle head, the rubble claws, Mace tail (Tail 2), 1 macro cannon, 1 powerfist, and 2 multi-launchers I think. I used contour putty to make all sorts of rotting goop and stuff on him. Amateur-ly hideous you might say. But back then we didn't have the skills peeps have today.

I didn't go on a chaos crusade without him. I loved Nurgle in SM1. I named him too but since forgot what it was. I named all my titans actually.

My favorite one was a Stormlord Warlord I called Bruticus. I think I stole that name from Transformers. My new Warlord will be named the same. And then I will enslave you all.



I intend on naming all my titans.

I'm currenty putting together random name ideas as they Come to me

Dominus Rex
Divina Irae
Lupus Rex (Proably gonna name a warhound this)
Dominus Bello (roughly translates to "Lord of War" seems amusingly ironic)
Victoria Martia
Maxima Bellator
Ferrus Rex
Promethus (a cookie to the first person to know why)


anyway just some names I cooked up


BrianDavion wrote:
 KTG17 wrote:
One of my favorite titans of all time had the Nurgle head, the rubble claws, Mace tail (Tail 2), 1 macro cannon, 1 powerfist, and 2 multi-launchers I think. I used contour putty to make all sorts of rotting goop and stuff on him. Amateur-ly hideous you might say. But back then we didn't have the skills peeps have today.

I didn't go on a chaos crusade without him. I loved Nurgle in SM1. I named him too but since forgot what it was. I named all my titans actually.

My favorite one was a Stormlord Warlord I called Bruticus. I think I stole that name from Transformers. My new Warlord will be named the same. And then I will enslave you all.



I intend on naming all my titans.

I'm currenty putting together random name ideas as they Come to me

Dominus Rex
Divina Irae
Lupus Rex (Proably gonna name a warhound this)
Dominus Bello (roughly translates to "Lord of War" seems amusingly ironic)
Victoria Martia
Maxima Bellator
Ferrus Rex
Promethus (a cookie to the first person to know why)


anyway just some names I cooked up


Lol. Same for me

Deo Volente (God Willing)
Gladio Rex (Sword King)
Lupus Seleri (Swift Wolf)
Cruento Nox (Bloody Night)
Solis Ira (Sun Rage)
Urbus Occisor (City Killer)
Ferrum Furrore (Iron Fury)
Deo Manibus (Hand of God)
Sanguis Belleator (Blood Warrior)
Ultima Defensionis (Final Defence)
Stella Ruptor (Star Breaker)
Mortem Advenit (Death Arrives)
Dominus Ferro (Lord of Steel)
Eius Vindicta (His Vengeance)
Fidens Prodigium (Monstrous Truth)

Technically there shouldn't really be capitial letters if were using classical Latin, but I think it looks silly that way.

And I will SUE anyone that steals these names, they are mine!

/Edit - Promethius - the Titan that challenged the Gods (specifically Zeus, the big God).

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I dunno man calling your Titan god machine would be like calling your f-15 "Fighter Plane"

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BrianDavion wrote:
I dunno man calling your Titan god machine would be like calling your f-15 "Fighter Plane"


Yeah. "Hand of God" it shall be.
   
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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Ask again in 2-3 years,

I don't think anything that happens with it now will really boost the chances of Xenos coming in (although if the launch had bombed it would have killed it)

whats going to matter is steady, profit making sales continuing up to the point they've run out of Imperial (and later Chaos) stuff

If that happens then Xenos have a good shot


That's very unfortunate, 2-3 years means even a hard pass for me. I'm interested in playing now, and not in 2021.
   
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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Ask again in 2-3 years,

I don't think anything that happens with it now will really boost the chances of Xenos coming in (although if the launch had bombed it would have killed it)

whats going to matter is steady, profit making sales continuing up to the point they've run out of Imperial (and later Chaos) stuff

If that happens then Xenos have a good shot


I'd agree with the timescale. I'd wager we've got at least a full year or so of Imperial focused releases. Following that we'll see Chaos. Now GW could do Chaos in a number of ways. First up there's straight upgrade packs, which would appear to be their intent with making the Warlord modular in its sprue design - so the Chaos would just need a new weapon and armour covering, perhaps with a few details that glue over the base carapace of the model as well.

Now that in itself could just be one chaos sprue; or they could release a couple as each of the 4 gods looks very different (A nurgle titan is going to appear different to a slaanesh).

The next level up from that would be dedicated Chaos titans; things like the Slaanesh hell knights and the banefire and such; units that are totally and utterly warped beyond original recognition.

That could easily eat up a year or more of releases for AT.


I think if all that does well then we will, in around 3 year or so, be in a position where GW will want to expand and the next logical expansion will be toward Xenos. Of course GW could keep expanding the Imperial forces; keep adding more and more titan variations and unique hero titans (we already might see a psywarlord).


It really does depend, but I think the fire in GW is there to take it toward Xeno even if we only go as far as Ork, Eldar and Tyranid. If the game gets continual sales we should get there. One big bonus is that new GW knows that marketing is important to keeping a game alive; that part of the responsibility for a game surviving is the attention they give it. That's why we are seeing them forming dedicated teams within their organisation that are focused on things like specialist games. By having those teams these games keep having a continual interested party in the GW structure to keep content coming; we avoid the mistakes of the past where a special project would be fitted in around other releases work schedules and teams which clearly results in periods where the specialists got ignored for too long that the market lost interest; all because another big project in another line rose its head and took the free specialist development time away.

this last point in itself I think will bode well for AT continuing to get support. The new factory being built should further give it increased stability as that should help boost production at GW and that means more chance to keep things like the starting box in stock long term; not just in production bursts.

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I wonder when we’ll see some 3rd party parts to make the Warlord look like the Epic 40,000/Armageddon one?
   
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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
I wonder when we’ll see some 3rd party parts to make the Warlord look like the Epic 40,000/Armageddon one?


That'll depend on how big the game is, if it's tiny and niche we might never see it.
If AT becomes absolutely huge, big eneugh that it b ecoems the "third flagship of GW" big, obviously there will be a thriving third party bits market. it all really REALLY depends, one thing to consider is that due to the differant scale of AT from every other game in the GW range right now, anything for AT is dedicated investment for AT and AT alone. course this ALSO goes for GW, The range will be bought to play AT with, which means that if the games not popular people aren't buying the titans up to use as "cultists" or something. Assuming the game is initally received well (and is has been) GW will to my way to thinking need to market AT more agressivly then the other speciality games.

Basicly IMHO AT is gonna be a "go big or go home" game for GW. AT needs to be sucessful, both in terms of the minis and the ruleset.

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It also depends what long tern plans GW has already in the works - we know that Reavers, Warhounds and weaponpacks are already being developed and released this year. This would suggest that the development team are now working, if they are still working on AT, on new projects within the game for future release.

GW might also decide that its a viable lower profit lower volume game - that might not affect what we get overall, but could slow the process down. They might also decide that sales are strong enough but that a lack of range variety is holding back further sales and thus they might push more development on the back of good but not oustanding sales with a view that with a wider more complete range the sales will pick up

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 Overread wrote:
It also depends what long tern plans GW has already in the works - we know that Reavers, Warhounds and weaponpacks are already being developed and released this year. This would suggest that the development team are now working, if they are still working on AT, on new projects within the game for future release.

GW might also decide that its a viable lower profit lower volume game - that might not affect what we get overall, but could slow the process down. They might also decide that sales are strong enough but that a lack of range variety is holding back further sales and thus they might push more development on the back of good but not oustanding sales with a view that with a wider more complete range the sales will pick up


I think if I was in charge of AT my expansion plan would go something like this, one all the basic titans are out I'd put out chaos upgrade sprues, proably have 1 for each god, likely have to to those in Resin. I'd then expand to Xenos. well my plans would likely change based off feedback, but Id proably do Orks first as Ork titans are MORE OR LESS like Imperial Titans, genrators shields etc they'd need some additional rules but it's proably comparitively easy to do. introduce Orks with a "Ullanor campaign" box consisting of 2 stompas and a reaver (or something) I know Stompa's are on the small end of Ork titans, but the idea would be to make the box smaller. and priced so that it's a decent buy, this allows Ork players to get in cheaper, and it also means deal hunting players with a Titan army might snag it for the reaver and give orks a try. the problem with expanding a game like AT is you have to assume a good number of your players already have an army, sweet talk em into trying the new one

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I appreciate that people may want to see xenos titans, but I don't know why anyone would expect to see xenos in a product expressly set in the Horus Heresy. They've talked about the campaign books on the way to support other Legios and conflicts within the HH. They've hinted at new classes of Imperial titans also. I don't know why the setting would suddenly change and xenos titans to start rolling out in the next 6 to 12 months. *shrug*

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