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Nuremberg

Thanks Slinky, Wirecat and Stormatious!

More carving and chopping at chopsticks, more hot glue...




It looks just like I want it to! Very happy. It is a lot of hassle sharpening them and then roughing them up so they look more like logs, but the regular shape of them and their solidity is really useful for this build. This is time consuming though, I figure getting this completely done is going to take me at least another week. I want to do a short, non sharpened row of logs on the inside of the wall holding the earthworks in place like in this picture:


Which means a lot more cutting and carving, but I think it will look a lot better. Also planning a gate tower to look something like this:

with the idea to make it modular so it can also be a stand alone watch tower.

Been thinking about this build for a really long time, it is super satisfying to get to building it!

   
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Looking good! I was in a KS for terrain quite like this, but sadly it looks like it will never deliver...

The inner row of logs will definitely add an extra level of authenticity, so worth a bit more time I reckon!

   
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The Celtic version of the US tv show F-Troop .

Great looking work so far, I commend your diligence especially on making the fences realistic.

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Carving those posts seems like a lot of work. The results are worth it, though.

Now showing Abyssals for Vanguard!




Painting total as of 8/17/2019: 99 plus a wooden bridge and gnoll encampment and 36 pieces of Mantic scatter terrain and three fly holes and three farm buildings and a fire pit.


 
   
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Great reference, by the way! Thanks! I can't really help with speeding up Your work with the chopsticks, these things are hard, but there is a trick to consider (maybe).

Get the most coarse sanding paper You can find, grade 50 or less. They are rare and look like bits of glass on a piece of carton, but I do not recommend replacing them with actual glass - this may end very bad. Wrap it around something 2-3 inches thick and hard. Axe or hammer handle, perhaps? Fix it with a small nail or two and start pushing chopsticks across the paper, preferably in small strokes, no more than half an inch, moving across curvature and rolling the stick at the same time. This will leave some deep irregular cuts in the wood, not really a wood texture but close enough after spraying with some primer.

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Hah, Wirecat that is a really good idea! Wish I thought of it already! The reference photos are from the National Heritage Park of Ireland, which is up the road from my hometown in Ireland. It has reconstructed settlements for each stage of Ireland's history up to the Norman invasion, and the ringfort is definitely the highlight of the tour, though the monastary is also pretty good.

Thanks for the encouragement guys. I think I will do the second row of stakes. Last night I cut the remaining HDF bases for the rest of the wall, but before I start on it I figured I would try and tackle one of the more ambitious parts of this build. I want this Ringfort to have a watchtower-gatetower that is modular and can be used as a stand alone watch tower. The one in my reference has a thatched roof, but I think I will leave the top open for playability, as fiddling to get minis under a roof would be annoying.

Step one was to clip 4 chopsticks and mark out the height of the floors at a 3 inch distance from each other. This means the first floor of the tower is level with the highest points of the pallisade, which I think is right. Then I roughed them up as before.


Then the fiddly bit. I cut 4 inch lengths and roughed them up, and then glued two of them underneath my marker lines to make two H shapes. I glued them with superglue, because the hot glue was not really working for some reason. Then I had a lot of fiddling and messing around to glue the last two across to make a square. This was particularly annoying because I am a clumsy fecker, but I got there in the end (my fingers coated in glue!)


Then I just cut a bunch more 4 inch logs, roughed them up, and glued them in place. With all those logs, it is now pretty sturdy, and it was easy to glue the floor supports for the top floor on. Bit tired now and I think I have to change the blade on my craft knife, so I am gonna stop before I lop off a finger by mistake!


The plan is to make the top floor, then maybe some diagonal supports on the bottom, and a railing around the middle with cocktail skewers. I think I will use logs to make the lip around the top floor.
It needs a gate for seige scenarios. I am not sure what the ancient celts used for this sort of thing. I might make a removable section of spiked logs that fits across the opening at the bottom, sort of continuing the palisade.

Overall, this was not that hard to do for how cool I think it will be when it is done! I can see lots of uses for it as a stand alone watchtower too.

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Excellent stuff with this one.

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Llamahead: Thanks! It is hard work but it is coming out alright so far.
Back to it today, and nearly finished the the tower construction. Just need to get some coffee stirrers for some little details and sand and flock the base.

Top floor done, here are some scale shots:






I want to use this tower for Dungeons and Dragons, various fantasy wargames, and Saga. So I wanted to be sure that Ogre sized minis can be used on the terrain. The ogre only fits in on the side without the floor support log, so I will keep that open to allow maximum access for playability.
A cavalry model can also ride through the bottom of the tower easily, which is important in it's gate tower function.

Then I cut some chopstick logs to size and cut the ends to make diagonal angles, so that I could make a rim around the top floor where each plank of the rim was resting on one of the four support poles.


Next I hot glued the tower to it's base, which it barely fits on (oops) and glued a barrier into the front and back of the tower, mostly for the look of the thing. I don't want to do the same on the sides, because I want to make access to the pallisade all on either side easy, and also to make placing and moving models on the first floor easy.


The top floor was looking a bit silly with such a low barrier, so I decided to glue on another layer of chopstick logs.




Overall I am pretty surprised by how easliy this is all coming together. Bit worried about how it will hold up to transport and use in games, so I might make a special carry case for it. I am also going to make some diagonal support struts on the lowest floor, perhaps in an X shape, which should give some extra strength. I thought about making coiled rope ladders as well, to show how people get up and down out of the tower, but that might be cluttering up the playspace a bit too much. As is, the tower can just about fit a standard Kings of War regiment.


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This is about as far as I can go without any coffee stirrers for the last little bit, have to conduct a raid on the local cafe.
Measured up some logs for the diagonals and cut off a corner at the bottom.



The chopstick logs sort of butted each other out of alignment so I marked out where they intersected and carved out the middles to make a nice fit.


Then with some fiddling, swearing and gluing my fingers to the tower, I got them in position:


You can see a little gap there on one side, gonna glob some hot glue over that and cover it in sand texture to bury it in the ground. Phew! Left to do is the coffee stirrer planks for the middle floor barrier, and some steps up and down to the pallisade wall for either side of the tower. Those will be detachable and pretty simple, to allow access into the first floor from the pallisade when this thing is set up as a gate tower.


Everything finished so far:


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Looking good Da Boss. Luckily you're no stranger to the extra challenge (and extra benefit) of building things that are modular. Best of luck!

   
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OH, man, it is really coming together now with the gate house! That is becoming quite the impressive fort. A unit of archers would have a very defensible position along that wall and tower.

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Thanks guys! tonight I mostly worked on finishing off the two sections of pallisade I had already done, just to make sure my plans were feasible for the rest of them. I have to admit, all this carving is wearing out my hands. Probably will have to slow down my work rate a bit for a while, still have a lot of pallisade to carve...

First I cut out the staircase. I just made each step roughly big enough for a 25mm base to balance on, and one layer of foamboard high, which is about the thickness of a chopstick. Then I glued chopsticks on horizontally and vertically to help it look good. I was not sure what to do for the "back" part of the stairs. If I just glue more chopsticks on direclty they will take a chunk of the standing room for my models. I could put "stone" on (egg carton) but I feel like that would not look as good. I could also use coffee stirrers for a lighter wooden hoarding. But I think ultimately what I will do is carve into the foamboard layers to make recesses for the chopstick logs and use them, for consistency with the rest of the fort. It will be a pain in the arse, but I think it is probably the best approach. After that I just cut a bunch of short lengths and roughed them up before gluing them on. I think it looks pretty good!




Got 1 more curved piece made and ready to go, and once I get that done I am more than halfway through the first part of this. Once all the basic forms have been made, I will coat the foamboard in filler and then sand and flock everything for painting.

   
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This is a really great build- really looking nice- and very realistic! I was a bit non-visionary at first with the tower, but seeing it in situ with the earthen rampart and palisade, it's perfect- right out of Time Team!

The only minor finishing touch for the excellent tower I can think of might be to take very light cotton string and wrap around all the joint locations- like rope strengthening the joins?

I'm very much enjoying you sharing your work!

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Nuremberg

Thanks! That is a really good idea, using twine. I will definitely do that, it will really improve the look of the tower. Also need to remember to swipe some coffee stirrers from somewhere.

   
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I used thread on my bamboo bridge when I was tying thing together as string just looks very large at scale, but give a few a try to see .
Excellent work so far.

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
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Nuremberg

Yeah, will have to look into getting some nice thread for it.
Today I looted some coffee stirrers, roughed them up, and used them to fill in the gap on the second floor. Fiddly to do but I think it improves the look.





   
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I think you're right- it does improve the look. And will look more balanced if you hang an elk or aurochs skull, or perhaps clan shields over the front-facing rail.....

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You could maybe use the coffee stirrers for the "back" wall of the stairs to look like boards holding back the dirt without eating into the area of your steps too much.

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That is a gatehouse more than a watchtower - at that size! The thickness of the wall is a bit excessive but would definitely be useful in game - for a monster rampaging through the ranks of defenders. I'd happily play some Hordes and Warmachine scenarios on that kind of terrain, beats usually flat tables with a fores or a house (or an outhouse) most games use. :(

I like that fortress/earthworks and Your references - I enjoy visiting old sites and settlements for inspirations, or at least look at their photos. Please continue!

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It's really coming on! Chopsticks look like a good solution for this type of scaffolding structure, I will have to remember that when I need to make some

   
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More great use of materials . The tower is coming along great.

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

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That is coming together very nicely.

 
   
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Nuremberg

Meer_Cat: I will have to have a dig around in my bitz box and see what I have for that sort of decoration. Shields are definitely doable, but an animal skull would be cool.

The Riddle of Steel: That is what I did in the end, and I think it looks pretty good without too much extra faffing around with cutting foam with a knife.

Wirecat: Yeah, there are a lot of concessions to playability with this one, especially in the width of the wall. I wanted 2 25mm based minis to be able to stand on it, to allow for fights and so on, and for 40-50mm monster type figures to be able to stomp along on it comfortably. It is a bit wide, particularly compared to the real life versions which have much narrower walkways. But this is gonna be a gaming piece so I am okay with the concession to playability.

Theopony: Thanks! The chopsticks have proven to be a pretty fun option. I think I will make a slavic style log cabin after this for my groups Ranger.

Red Harvest: Yeah, I kinda jumped in at the deep end here after many years of not making any terrain and I am really happy with how it is going.

So, I have not posted in a little while because I was visiting my father in law at the weekend. He is 87, so not doing so well in the heat, so my wife and I have been travelling to see him regularly to cheer him up. 5 hours each way by high speed train does not leave a lot of time for modelling.

This week I got some stuff done though. I got the foam cut out for my other wall sections, and then trimmed it to actually fit (my templates had gotten a bit outsized over time and one of the wall arcs is a centimeter or two shorter than the other). Then I painted the mdf with modpodge and black paint to seal it and hopefully prevent any swelling or warping when I paint and PVA glue this. Got the steps set up for each of the curved pieces too, I think having a stairway on each curve is going to be fine for playability and will look good too.
Next steps are hot gluing everything in place, and then I have a monster session of chopstick carving ahead of me to finish off the pallisade. Probably need to get some more coffee stirrers too.There are no new techniques for all of that, so I will just power through and post an update when I am done. Then I can finally texture it and look into painting. I am thinking about a leather brown army painter primer on the whole thing, highlight up the wood with light brown and grey, then earthshade or chestnut wash it and paint the chopped bits with a tan. The earth is gonna be dark brown with highlights and two tones of green flock.
Here is the layout of the walls as a circular fort:


And here it is with the celtic houses inside. This is pretty good for how the real thing looks, maybe a bit "chibi" style due to things being a little wider and shorter than in real life but I think pretty good for a gaming set.



It would also be easy to turn this into a motte and bailey style castle with my Renedra Keep, or use them as a town wall if I wanted to do one of the sieges of Dublin or Wexford, or any other Dark Ages themed town like the starting town in my RPG setting.
Here's to a productive weekend!

   
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It is looking great, but, wow, when you lay the whole thing out you really get a sense for just how much work has already gone into this project and how much more there is to do! You have some serious ambition. It will be an impressive centerpiece when finished!

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I'm seeing one heck of a fort coming along nicely. I'm gonna have to catch up on this.

 
   
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The Riddle of Steel: Heh, yeah, it is pretty ambitious. I was really intimidated by the idea of it for ages, but I have wanted to make my own fort in this style since I read those White Dwarf articles around the release of Warhammer Siege in the late nineties.

Grimdork: Cheers! I went a bit mad documenting every step, but it does make for some nice scrolling all together.

   
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You aren't mad, just very thorough. Which is a nice feature of a blog - helps not scaring away those who would like to try something similar but are afraid of possible complexities and errors. You know, blogs like "pile of sticks - magick happens - awesomeness" sure look good, but are useful mostly to those who are already brave enough to make their own.

By the way - went to the local reconstruction of the lake fort and seeing it with my own eyes just drew home a simple thought - just how small everything was in tribal era. So Your circle fort is actually pretty much in scale, except maybe that very same breadth of the wall. Well, there is not much to be done here - stuff must support our precious miniatures!

Cheers!

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Wirecat: Thanks for the encouragement, I needed it! I agree, it always struck me how Ringforts are essentially just a dwelling place for a large extended family, not the sprawling castles people tend to imagine. Some of the richest families had more elaborate structures, such as around the hill of Tara, but the average Rath was not that extravagent. One clan probably had several Raths to move between, though.

So, I busted my ass this weekend and today and have made a LOT of progress. I knew this was going to be tedious and horrible so I really wanted to just power through it and get it all done. My hands are aching from all the carving and I have had more than one splinter, but the outer perimeter is finally finished. Now all that remains is the inner section which is a lot smaller and involves shorter, blunt logs that are a lot easier to mass produce. The only annoying part is getting the staircases done, but I will do those first and then it is just a case of cutting a bunch of short logs out of pre-carved chopsticks.
This was the progress on Saturday:


I got another curve done on Sunday, and then tonight I powered through and got the straight and the final curve finished:




I'll be honest, this was a nightmare to make, but seeing it laid out makes me really excited to get it textured and finished up. I think I can get it done by this weekend! It is super sturdy and I think it will last me a long time. One thing I am a little unhappy about is that the pieces do not quite butt up together properly, but I may sand it down to get a better fit before texturing. But my next terrain project is gonna be something a bit less demanding, like some trees or a hill! Thanks for the encouragement guys, it really helps keep me going when I am on my 50th carved stake of the evening!

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Great looking work so far. I know it’s tedious, especially after making a bunch of bamboo myself , but it’s turning out great.

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 
   
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Really spectacular, well done!

   
 
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