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It depends on the unit. The Bloodreavers were always "10 or more models". Like Kan and I are saying, the description on the warscroll and the match play profile don't always match, and you shouldn't put too much stock in the warscroll description having an effect on the match play profile.

 HorticulusDK wrote:
Today's Malign Portent story is really really good.

https://malignportents.com/story/dying-star/

Best Seraphon / Lizardmen fluff since the End Times' Exodus IMO !

That is a lot of new fluff. Potential ret-cons of the battletome too.

Hopefully it will mean more attention from GW for the Seraphon soon.

Honestly barring a surprise new model release I can't see them getting any attention for a while. GW still has a lot of Aelf factions to tidy up with new Battletomes.

They'd be better off mixing it up a bit rather than sticking to one faction or race.

So this shot just turned up. Those are some big ass spells.

Wow so the spells are in individually colored plastic, wouldn't have thought that.

Are they snap-fit too?

Unfortunately it's just a pic and not my stuff. It's not listed as easy to build, so i would assume not. On a side note, i approve of avatar Cio.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 HorticulusDK wrote:
Today's Malign Portent story is really really good.

https://malignportents.com/story/dying-star/

Best Seraphon / Lizardmen fluff since the End Times' Exodus IMO !

That is a lot of new fluff. Potential ret-cons of the battletome too.

Absolutely (well, new fluff but based on the Space ship idea from the Battletome and the "Exodus" End Times fluff, and the old WFB 8th fluff of High tech lizards).

We'll see in the fluff part of the Core Book if there is other changes to the Seraphon !

(Note that AOS2 has already some ret-cons : like this one on the attachment, ignoring the "memey" tone...)

The sprue on top looks like it's already been sprayed. It's purple and white. I've never seen GW use two different colors of plastic on a single sprue.

That’s just glare from the lights/flash. It’s all one color.

Yeah figures, looking over the pic they do seem to have lots of guide holes so they may not be snap-fit, but real easy to put together at least.

Its cool stuff from GW, snap-fit may not always be great for conversion fodder, but for anyone looking to have a starter set (and accessories) assembled and
playing within a couple of hours its amazing, really hope they keep pushing it with future sets.

Either way I'm really after as many of those female stormcast as I can get, hopefully I'll be able to snap-up some on eBay.

(and yes Cio best character, no doubt)

 HorticulusDK wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 HorticulusDK wrote:
Today's Malign Portent story is really really good.

https://malignportents.com/story/dying-star/

Best Seraphon / Lizardmen fluff since the End Times' Exodus IMO !

That is a lot of new fluff. Potential ret-cons of the battletome too.

Absolutely (well, new fluff but based on the Space ship idea from the Battletome and the "Exodus" End Times fluff, and the old WFB 8th fluff of High tech lizards).

We'll see in the fluff part of the Core Book if there is other changes to the Seraphon !

(Note that AOS2 has already some ret-cons : like this one on the attachment, ignoring the "memey" tone...)

The space ships aren't new, but the description of the interior and the sense of scale is. Also insight into relationships between different types of Seraphon, and the whole thing with spawning pools is both new and a potential retcon. I say potential because while Seraphon have been "remembered into existence" the nature of it or how they take shape has never been hinted at. And we knew previously that they hung out on the ships between battles.

And in before complaints of sci fi in AoS; it's Old One tech, which has always been super advanced. Note that the Old Ones in 40k (the race who created the Eldar and Orks) started off as literally the same Old Ones from WHFB.

As for the map, without being able to see it myself up close I'd be hesitant to say ret con yet. The map on the left is much more zoomed in; on the larger map relatively tiny details would naturally be left out. Also keep in mind when looking at the maps that it's been centuries and given the nature of chaos (and the setting) it's entirely plausible for the land to have shifted as it has been purified/remained corrupted. Vast swaths of land could have been pulled/pushed into or from the realm of chaos entirely.

Wow that picture Inquisitor Guidion shown what a difference. I mean we can see how Kirby took Age of Sigmar as a joke and lackluster work to what Mr Roundtree taking AoS2.0 very serious.

I always thought of the map on the left as more of an artistic interpretation rather than an attempt at an actual map. Sort of the AoS equivalent of this

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Unfortunately it's just a pic and not my stuff. It's not listed as easy to build, so i would assume not. On a side note, i approve of avatar Cio.

From War of Sigmar

Davor wrote:
Wow that picture Inquisitor Guidion shown what a difference. I mean we can see how Kirby took Age of Sigmar as a joke and lackluster work to what Mr Roundtree taking AoS2.0 very serious.

If we could spoiler images of that size...

At any rate, it's not a matter of attitude in this case. The map on the left was for the purposes of a story arc that took place in a very specific region. Putting out a huge map of the realm where the land in that campaign was a tiny spot would have been a joke, not the other way around.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Davor wrote:
Wow that picture Inquisitor Guidion shown what a difference. I mean we can see how Kirby took Age of Sigmar as a joke and lackluster work to what Mr Roundtree taking AoS2.0 very serious.

If we could spoiler images of that size...

At any rate, it's not a matter of attitude in this case. The map on the left was for the purposes of a story arc that took place in a very specific region. Putting out a huge map of the realm where the land in that campaign was a tiny spot would have been a joke, not the other way around.

Well, I can guarantee you it's a retcon, because the fluff from the Core Book and Realmgate Wars : Godebeasts are totally contradictory in terms of where the Brimstone Peninsula is.

- In Godbeasts it's in a subrealm called the Ashlands (quite cartoony indeed) ;
- In the Core Book (and well, every other fluffs bits like Firestorm or the Stormcast Battletome) it's south of the expanse of continents called the Great Parch (on the Khul's Ravage continent).

I really like the new AOS fluff as it fills lots of blank spaces in the story and world building of AOS, plus it gives consistent informations (at last !) like the names of all members of Hammerhal government, or the names of all 9 Gaunt Summoners, or talk directly about Malerion and Morathi secret business with Slaanesh, or tells us clearly how the Seraphon come into being, etc.

That story has made me a happy writer. Now the budding Seraphon Fluff can be fleshed out in truth.

Hoping for more stories about them, and maybe a new battletome since every single one of our battlescrolls needs to be edited. Course, that could just be done in the app....

 HorticulusDK wrote:
Today's Malign Portent story is really really good.

https://malignportents.com/story/dying-star/

Best Seraphon / Lizardmen fluff since the End Times' Exodus IMO !

Eh, seraphon bits are nice, but the rest of the story is just more Nagash wankin' (apparently stars are alive or something in this universe instead of being, you know, very dead™ gas if Nagash's plot sue powers can affect them). Also, this story just raises the question why Seraphon missed the phone call or something for Malign Portents if they are so observant and just what good striking after the pyramid plot was done and dusted will do. And that is if the next story won't consist of seraphon army just keeling over and dying the second even a single undead looks at them sternly like literally every other MP story so far...

 HorticulusDK wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Davor wrote:
Wow that picture Inquisitor Guidion shown what a difference. I mean we can see how Kirby took Age of Sigmar as a joke and lackluster work to what Mr Roundtree taking AoS2.0 very serious.

If we could spoiler images of that size...

At any rate, it's not a matter of attitude in this case. The map on the left was for the purposes of a story arc that took place in a very specific region. Putting out a huge map of the realm where the land in that campaign was a tiny spot would have been a joke, not the other way around.

Well, I can guarantee you it's a retcon, because the fluff from the Core Book and Realmgate Wars : Godebeasts are totally contradictory in terms of where the Brimstone Peninsula is.

- In Godbeasts it's in a subrealm called the Ashlands (quite cartoony indeed) ;
- In the Core Book (and well, every other fluffs bits like Firestorm or the Stormcast Battletome) it's south of the expanse of continents called the Great Parch (on the Khul's Ravage continent).

I really like the new AOS fluff as it fills lots of blank spaces in the story and world building of AOS, plus it gives consistent informations (at last !) like the names of all members of Hammerhal government, or the names of all 9 Gaunt Summoners, or talk directly about Malerion and Morathi secret business with Slaanesh, or tells us clearly how the Seraphon come into being, etc.

I don't get what your saying; neither of those tidbits are contradictory to each other or what we've seen. Nor do I see where the 'quite cartoony indeed' comes in. There may very well be a retcon but we can't confirm that with what we have now.

Trust me there is some downright silly (even by warhammer standards) stuff in the realmgate wars novels, but the maps aren't it.

 HorticulusDK wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Davor wrote:
Wow that picture Inquisitor Guidion shown what a difference. I mean we can see how Kirby took Age of Sigmar as a joke and lackluster work to what Mr Roundtree taking AoS2.0 very serious.

If we could spoiler images of that size...

At any rate, it's not a matter of attitude in this case. The map on the left was for the purposes of a story arc that took place in a very specific region. Putting out a huge map of the realm where the land in that campaign was a tiny spot would have been a joke, not the other way around.

Well, I can guarantee you it's a retcon, because the fluff from the Core Book and Realmgate Wars : Godebeasts are totally contradictory in terms of where the Brimstone Peninsula is.

- In Godbeasts it's in a subrealm called the Ashlands (quite cartoony indeed) ;
- In the Core Book (and well, every other fluffs bits like Firestorm or the Stormcast Battletome) it's south of the expanse of continents called the Great Parch (on the Khul's Ravage continent).

I really like the new AOS fluff as it fills lots of blank spaces in the story and world building of AOS, plus it gives consistent informations (at last !) like the names of all members of Hammerhal government, or the names of all 9 Gaunt Summoners, or talk directly about Malerion and Morathi secret business with Slaanesh, or tells us clearly how the Seraphon come into being, etc.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the realmgate wars take place a few thousand years before where AoS currently is? And is the idea of realms changing in size still a thing? Maybe that could explain why that's the case? Subrealms coming into and out of existence?

Several hundred years. The Realmgate Wars were covered by the initial campaign books the first year of AoS. They don't seem intent on producing them again so I'm guessing they didn't sell well.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 HorticulusDK wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Davor wrote:
Wow that picture Inquisitor Guidion shown what a difference. I mean we can see how Kirby took Age of Sigmar as a joke and lackluster work to what Mr Roundtree taking AoS2.0 very serious.

If we could spoiler images of that size...

At any rate, it's not a matter of attitude in this case. The map on the left was for the purposes of a story arc that took place in a very specific region. Putting out a huge map of the realm where the land in that campaign was a tiny spot would have been a joke, not the other way around.

Well, I can guarantee you it's a retcon, because the fluff from the Core Book and Realmgate Wars : Godebeasts are totally contradictory in terms of where the Brimstone Peninsula is.

- In Godbeasts it's in a subrealm called the Ashlands (quite cartoony indeed) ;
- In the Core Book (and well, every other fluffs bits like Firestorm or the Stormcast Battletome) it's south of the expanse of continents called the Great Parch (on the Khul's Ravage continent).

I really like the new AOS fluff as it fills lots of blank spaces in the story and world building of AOS, plus it gives consistent informations (at last !) like the names of all members of Hammerhal government, or the names of all 9 Gaunt Summoners, or talk directly about Malerion and Morathi secret business with Slaanesh, or tells us clearly how the Seraphon come into being, etc.

I don't get what your saying; neither of those tidbits are contradictory to each other or what we've seen. Nor do I see where the 'quite cartoony indeed' comes in. There may very well be a retcon but we can't confirm that with what we have now.

Trust me there is some downright silly (even by warhammer standards) stuff in the realmgate wars novels, but the maps aren't it.

120 years, not much, between the opening of the Gates of Azyr and the current Status Quo (Time Of Tribulation) : from Josh Reynolds novel "Spear of Shadow". Other GW fluff (about the Free Cities mostly) talk about "many decades" between the end of the Realmgate Wars, the foundation of the Seeds of Hope and the current status quo.

The map and description I'm referring to are from the main Studio book, the Realmgate Wars : Godbeasts (pages 17 to 22), not the novels.

It describes the region around the Brimstone Peninsula in details : it's the Ashlands and the Flameworld of Aqshy ; and yeah the description and the map are somewhat "cartoony" ; bright color, little shapes, etc. - I mean in comparison to the 2016 (and later) maps we got, like the one in the KO or SCE Battletomes.

The map of the Great Parch from the new Core Book is in total contradiction with the above : we learn that the Brimstone Peninsula is south of the Kul's Ravage continent (it would fit the fluff concerning that part of the Realmgate Wars, i.e. that Aqshy and the Peninsula was subjugated by the Goretide, but would invalidate the notion of it being in another place of the Realm like "the Ahslands").

I mean we have 2 maps of wider places, each containing the same Brimstone Peninsula. It's a proper retcon.

From TGA

14 hours ago, Glaurung said:
Read the GH2018
Almost nothing changed for FEC.
Tzeentch got hammered, Greater demon now costs 380 and gaunt 160.
LoN are the same, a part for bloodknights that are going down.


2 hours ago, Glaurung said:
Only for that shooting phase.
Gaunt is 180 I think, and Horrors went up to 200 per 10
blood knights I don’t remember, more than 200, maybe 220, I’m sorry but I didn’ t have much time to read it all

 Mymearan wrote:
From TGA

14 hours ago, Glaurung said:
Read the GH2018
Almost nothing changed for FEC.
Tzeentch got hammered, Greater demon now costs 380 and gaunt 160.
LoN are the same, a part for bloodknights that are going down.

2 hours ago, Glaurung said:
Only for that shooting phase.
Gaunt is 180 I think, and Horrors went up to 200 per 10
blood knights I don’t remember, more than 200, maybe 220, I’m sorry but I didn’ t have much time to read it all

200 points for horrors? I'm guessing that will include splitting, with the free summoning and all. My only gripe with that is the amount of blue and brimstone horrors I might need.
LoC getting a big price bump points to magic becoming a bigger deal (it is a great caster) and/or it will be tied into the new summoning mechanic.

hate these colored plastic. You have to use a ton of primer on them if you don't want the color to affect your painting

I don't fully trust that "leak" only because Nagash getting drastically re-costed was one of the first tidbits GW let slip when 2.0 was confirmed. LoN staying the same sounds odd.

 streetsamurai wrote:
hate these colored plastic. You have to use a ton of primer on them if you don't want the color to affect your painting

Prime black. You don't have to use too much primer for that in many cases, and it's easy enough to go over the black with other primer/colors as you need to.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I don't fully trust that "leak" only because Nagash getting drastically re-costed was one of the first tidbits GW let slip when 2.0 was confirmed. LoN staying the same sounds odd.

I read that as LoN also getting hammered, 'same' as Tzeentch.