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They’re Kirbying their book line? Focusing on only the top selling sub-series and allowing the breadth of their range to wither?

 Overread wrote:
I'll just be happy if they actually have some books that aren't 40K. For a big annual event of the year they often have one or no AoS books which always strikes me as odd for what should be the biggest release event of the year for BL

Most of the AoS books have seemingly been under Warhammer Horror, so it feels like it's not a whole lot of them.

AoS needs more books for sure, could stand with more world-building, best news would be them announcing the return of Josh Reynolds, that would piss off some peeps for sure.

Personally, I'd love to see more Crime books being announced. If we're really going into impossible pipe dream territory, a return of the audio dramas. Or ooh, a third Space Sharks novel, I am quite done with marines, but will make an exception for them, I found their novels quite a step away from the usual bolter porn.

I doubt we'll get any word on Pandaemonium, Dan's still in "Heresy mode" right now and yes, the final book is done and printed, but I doubt BL would announce his next project when number three hasn't hit the shelves yet.

Would love to hear if there's going to be a third Covenant book already. But chances are, it'll be another Dawn of Fire or whatever that series is called instalment, yay..

 BrookM wrote:
best news would be them announcing the return of Josh Reynolds.

I would love it. BTW his Rokugan books are also very good.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
best news would be them announcing the return of Josh Reynolds.

I would love it. BTW his Rokugan books are also very good.

Ohh not read those - he is a really good author imo

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
best news would be them announcing the return of Josh Reynolds.

I would love it. BTW his Rokugan books are also very good.

Ohh not read those - he is a really good author imo

Josh was a writing machine for AoS and ever since he left its felt like all the spark went out of AoS writing. We get a few "by the numbers" books now in terms of them being commissioned, but it doesn't feel like there's really any staff making AoS their thing and a powerhouse of writing for it. That isn't to say its getting bad books, just that its very very clear that its not getting very many at all and that many of the big marketing pushes are almost all on 40k.

Still salty that Eight Lamentations will never see it's conclusion. 😒

 BrookM wrote:
Still salty that Eight Lamentations will never see it's conclusion. 😒

Same. But I’d rather he come back and give us a sequel to Dark Harvest. Hands down one of the best AOS novels. The audiobooks fantastic

It's a huge shame he left so suddenly as he did. Just feels like BL didn't have anyone training up nor able to step into his shoes and feels like no one at GW is carrying the torch for AoS lore itself.

Frankly, it feels like they were still trying to establish the world itself. There's been a lot of good lore in the army & campaign books.

 BrookM wrote:
AoS needs more books for sure, could stand with more world-building, best news would be them announcing the return of Josh Reynolds, that would piss off some peeps for sure.

Personally, I'd love to see more Crime books being announced. If we're really going into impossible pipe dream territory, a return of the audio dramas. Or ooh, a third Space Sharks novel, I am quite done with marines, but will make an exception for them, I found their novels quite a step away from the usual bolter porn.

I doubt we'll get any word on Pandaemonium, Dan's still in "Heresy mode" right now and yes, the final book is done and printed, but I doubt BL would announce his next project when number three hasn't hit the shelves yet.

Would love to hear if there's going to be a third Covenant book already. But chances are, it'll be another Dawn of Fire or whatever that series is called instalment, yay..

I genuinely think about this a lot and I think some of the world-building issue I have with AoS is it seems like there's nowhere that's ever peaceful. Like most stories have locations that at least seem peaceful and pleasant, even if it's a facade by villains. But the Mortal Realms are just awful. Like, what's the long term plan? Does Sigmar plan to kill the Chaos Gods? Because otherwise I don't see how the residents of any realm are ever not dying in droves.

Maybe the big announcement will be the return of Aaron Dembski-Bowden?

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
AoS needs more books for sure, could stand with more world-building, best news would be them announcing the return of Josh Reynolds, that would piss off some peeps for sure.

Personally, I'd love to see more Crime books being announced. If we're really going into impossible pipe dream territory, a return of the audio dramas. Or ooh, a third Space Sharks novel, I am quite done with marines, but will make an exception for them, I found their novels quite a step away from the usual bolter porn.

I doubt we'll get any word on Pandaemonium, Dan's still in "Heresy mode" right now and yes, the final book is done and printed, but I doubt BL would announce his next project when number three hasn't hit the shelves yet.

Would love to hear if there's going to be a third Covenant book already. But chances are, it'll be another Dawn of Fire or whatever that series is called instalment, yay..

I genuinely think about this a lot and I think some of the world-building issue I have with AoS is it seems like there's nowhere that's ever peaceful. Like most stories have locations that at least seem peaceful and pleasant, even if it's a facade by villains. But the Mortal Realms are just awful. Like, what's the long term plan? Does Sigmar plan to kill the Chaos Gods? Because otherwise I don't see how the residents of any realm are ever not dying in droves.

I think part of this is like 40K in that the stories often focus on the war torn areas not the peaceful ones.

I also think that AoS just has a big issue in that because it was such a messy launch and because early books were basically "Stormcast kicking butt everywhere"; its presentation is a bit jumbled. It doesn't help that a lot of the Realms themselves are often presented as highly hostile - from the Dead awakening to steal you away; to the ground reforming into mountains on a whim to lakes of quicksilver or scorching hot winds etc.... Again the lore focuses a lot on the most hostile, the most brutal and violent regions and kind of overlooks the peaceful sane areas of the mortal realms.


There's more development in the RPG books, and in short stories. But I do feel that AoS needs something big and bold to really flesh out its setting for the casual person. Old World didn't really need it because it was heavily inspired and built on so many franchises of its time that most people could imagine it very easily (indeed this often leads to people imagining it as a very low magic setting when its capable of very high magic events). I still hold that what AoS needs is a writer that really is inspired and controls and directs the setting; plus an artist or two to produce a series of more setting based artwork that isn't war and troops to help sell the vision of the mortal realms.

 Scottywan82 wrote:
I genuinely think about this a lot and I think some of the world-building issue I have with AoS is it seems like there's nowhere that's ever peaceful. Like most stories have locations that at least seem peaceful and pleasant, even if it's a facade by villains. But the Mortal Realms are just awful. Like, what's the long term plan? Does Sigmar plan to kill the Chaos Gods? Because otherwise I don't see how the residents of any realm are ever not dying in droves.

Well, the first few editions of AoS were focused on the Stormcast, who do just fight Chaos all the time. Now we've finally got a proper human faction with a direction beyond 'stuff ported over from WHFB', the writers might have a little more freedom to expand.

Eight Lamentations did some great world building and some of the horror novels also do fun stuff away from the battle fields. Castle of Blood has some interesting moments in there and I still need to read the full Prince Maesa at some point, the short stories that preceded it were fun glimpses into the setting.

But yes, a lot of the early AoS fiction was all about the Stormcast and if you're already having a case of power armour fatigue, fantasy hammer warriors are not going to cure it. Doesn't help either that a lot, if not most of the audio books I got through Humble Bundle are all Stormcast themed as well.

I do hope they have a Harlequins novel this time, with a model to go with it.

SamusDrake wrote:
I do hope they have a Harlequins novel this time, with a model to go with it.

Yeah, this! What was even the last Harlies novel, the Masque of Vyle?

There was also a pair of audio dramas; A Deadly Wit and Death's Mercy.

If harlequins get a new book, it better be written in play/screenplay format.

What time is the preview?

2pm GMT, or less then an hour from now.

The Emperor's Children marine looks cool (cover, not a model)

Based off the covers they've teased, we'll get books about Ahriman, Cado, Lazarus, that sister of battle high lord, and the EC.

ART BOOK! Whilst I'm not invested in the HH I'm always down for a good art book

The Guy Haley KO discussion feels very repetitive. He said the same thing discussing the model (Harpoon was added into the story because the designer added it) the last time he was interviewed

 GaroRobe wrote:
The Guy Haley KO discussion feels very repetitive. He said the same thing discussing the model (Harpoon was added into the story because the designer added it) the last time he was interviewed

That's how I feel every time French is on talking about Ahriman.

Well, this guy looks cool. I think he solves a couple rumor engine pics too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA0-IxAraa4&ab_channel=Warhammer

I like the drukhari helmet on his back. It's cool to see GW remember to make trophies from factions that aren't just imperium trinkets.

Well, nothing of interest was announced for me, but as far as presentations go, this was a good one, zero waffle and they kept it going at a nice pace. 👍🏻

Nice to see a few AoS novels mixing into this one! Felt a little light overall compared to some previous years? But that might just be me miss remembering.


Still new vampire and Khadoran novels are good things for AoS!

Good selection of AoS even, quite surprised the amount the announced.