Dept. of Education breaks down Stockton man's door

Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:

No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.

If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

**Frazzled**

This is just crazy. Its an unsecured claim for crying out loud. I've never ever heard of them doing this or anyone haviung the capacity to do this.

http://www.news10.net/news/article/141072/2/Dept-of-Education-breaks-down-Stockton-mans-door

STOCKTON, CA - Kenneth Wright does not have a criminal record and he had no reason to believe a S.W.A.T team would be breaking down his door at 6 a.m. on Tuesday.

"I look out of my window and I see 15 police officers," Wright said.

Wright came downstairs in his boxer shorts as a S.W.A.T team barged through his front door. Wright said an officer grabbed him by the neck and led him outside on his front lawn.

"He had his knee on my back and I had no idea why they were there," Wright said.

According to Wright, officers also woke his three young children ages 3, 7, and 11 and put them in a Stockton police patrol car with him. Officers then searched his house.

As it turned out, the person law enforcement was looking for was not there - Wright's estranged wife.

"They put me in handcuffs in that hot patrol car for six hours, traumatizing my kids," Wright said.

Wright said he later went to the mayor and Stockton Police Department, but the City of Stockton had nothing to do with Wright's search warrant.

The U.S. Department of Education issued the search and called in the S.W.A.T for his wife's defaulted student loans.

"They busted down my door for this," Wright said. "It wasn't even me."

According to the Department of Education's Office of the Inspector General, the case can't be discussed publicly until it is closed, but a spokesperson did confirm that the department did issue the search warrant at Wright's home.

The Office of the Inspector General has a law enforcement branch of federal agents that carry out search warrants and investigations.

Stockton Police Department said it was asked by federal agents to provide one officer and one patrol car just for a police presence when carrying out the search warrant.

Stockton police did not participate in breaking Wright's door, handcuffing him, or searching his home.

"All I want is an apology for me and my kids and for them to get me a new door," Wright said.

News10/KXTV

**purplefood**

So...
They broke his door down. Arrested him. Searched his house and scared his kids.
Did anyone show this man the search warrant?
This sounds pretty illegal... and why were the Department of Education breaking down peoples doors?

**filbert**

Over here in the UK, if there is an arrest warrant issued for someone, then the police then have the right to forceably enter a house or premise if they have reasonable grounds to suspect that the individual is there, whether it is the warranted individuals house or not.

So if a burglar had been arrested, given a false address, been released on bail, skipped bail and had a warrant issued, then conceivably Mrs Mills of 8 Acacia Avenue could end up with police bursting through her door through no fault of her own.

**daedalus**

They used the SWAT....because someone defaulted... on their student loans?

"Nice place ya got 'ere. Shame eef anythen were ta happen ta eet."

**purplefood**

That's the bit it think is wrong...
That and all they had to do was knock...

**4M2A**

Yeah, probably a stupid question but why not just knock?

**purplefood**

Because clearly student loan defaulters are dangerous criminals...

**Carmine the Wolf**

In a country where the cops arrest people for dancing at a national monument and paying a bill with small change, you expect a SWAT team to knock?

You'll be expecting them to read their rights when they arrest a guy next.

**4M2A**

I guess such a serious offender could have easily been armed and caused serious damage to the poor SWAT team. In fact it seems very irresponsible to use the SWAT, the clear solution would be the army.

**Carmine the Wolf**

4M2A wrote:I guess such a serious offender could have easily been armed and caused serious damage to the poor SWAT team. In fact it seems very irresponsible to use the SWAT, the clear solution would be the army.

Surely you'd want a tactical nuke from orbit?

It's the only way to be sure...

**daedalus**

4M2A wrote:I guess such a serious offender could have easily been armed and caused serious damage to the poor SWAT team. In fact it seems very irresponsible to use the SWAT, the clear solution would be the army.

Frankly, I'm surprised they didn't have a full risk assessment done at the highest levels of the military, and just decide that a UAV missile strike on the house was the best way to insure that the least amount of the good guys were put at risk.

**purplefood**

Clearly the only thing to do is a full armoured assault.
Crush the house with about 2 dozen tanks and then air drop an aircraft carrier onto it.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

4M2A wrote:I guess such a serious offender could have easily been armed and caused serious damage to the poor SWAT team. In fact it seems very irresponsible to use the SWAT, the clear solution would be the army.

Dis math book is loaded an' i ain't afriad to yoise it!

**biccat**

purplefood wrote:Clearly the only thing to do is a full armoured assault.
Crush the house with about 2 dozen tanks and then air drop an aircraft carrier onto it.

2 dozen tanks...or a single CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT.

**Albatross**

Yep, Stockton's pretty rough.

Oh, wait - there's a Stockton in America too? Next you'll be telling me that you guys have your own, newer, version of York.

Just imagine. A 'new' York. Priceless.

**mattyrm**

If this was Stockton on Tees they would have fed him his door.

**biccat**

Albatross wrote:Yep, Stockton's pretty rough. Oh, wait - there's a Stockton in America too?

It's pretty rough here too.

Albatross wrote:Next you'll be telling me that you guys have your own, newer, version of York.

Just imagine. A 'new' York. Priceless.

To think, except for English warmongering, it could have stayed New Amsterdam.

**purplefood**

biccat wrote:
Albatross wrote:Yep, Stockton's pretty rough. Oh, wait - there's a Stockton in America too?

It's pretty rough here too.

Albatross wrote:Next you'll be telling me that you guys have your own, newer, version of York.

Just imagine. A 'new' York. Priceless.

To think, except for English warmongering, it could have stayed New Amsterdam.

British warmongering i think you mean.
At any rate New Amsterdam is a silly name...

**Kilkrazy**

Everyone who fails to hand in their homework on time needs to be busted at gunpoint by the SWANT team.

**biccat**

purplefood wrote:
biccat wrote:
Albatross wrote:Yep, Stockton's pretty rough. Oh, wait - there's a Stockton in America too?

It's pretty rough here too.

Albatross wrote:Next you'll be telling me that you guys have your own, newer, version of York.

Just imagine. A 'new' York. Priceless.

To think, except for English warmongering, it could have stayed New Amsterdam.

British warmongering i think you mean.
At any rate New Amsterdam is a silly name...

It involved boats, not archers, guys in skirts with huge swords or umm...drunken Irishmen.

Very English. Plus, I think they said something about "stopping before teatime" and "cheerio guv'nor."

**SilverMK2**

Just think if she had an outstanding speeding ticket as well... would they have just gone straight to the ICBMs?

**purplefood**

Probably...

**Albatross**

biccat wrote:
Albatross wrote:Yep, Stockton's pretty rough. Oh, wait - there's a Stockton in America too?

It's pretty rough here too.

Albatross wrote:Next you'll be telling me that you guys have your own, newer, version of York.

Just imagine. A 'new' York. Priceless.

To think, except for English warmongering, it could have stayed New Amsterdam.

Hey! We bought it fair and square! We even kept the receipt....

**htj**

Maybe she hadn't paid the fees for the course she took... in murder.

**Frazzled**

purplefood wrote:So...
They broke his door down. Arrested him. Searched his house and scared his kids.
Did anyone show this man the search warrant?
This sounds pretty illegal... and why were the Department of Education breaking down peoples doors?

I am just trying to figure out HOW they received a search warrant. The judge's name wasn't Weiner was it? WTF kind of legal standard did they use for a NONCRIMINAL commercial issue.

Automatically Appended Next Post:

4M2A wrote:Yeah, probably a stupid question but why not just knock?

no the correct question is how the police were involved in the first place. In the US you can't arrest people for defaulting on their contracts. Its insane.

**SilverMK2**

Frazzled wrote:I am just trying to figure out HOW they received a search warrant. The judge's name wasn't Weiner was it? WTF kind of legal standard did they use for a NONCRIMINAL commercial issue.

Judge: "Hey, I'm just going to take some... clothes... to the laundry"
Receptionist: "Why do your laundry bags have dollar signs on them?"
Judge: "... DON'T JUDGE ME!"

**The Foot**

I am so glad I pay for my books up front. I would hate to the the MPs show up at my house and beat me down for the same thing.

**Frazzled**

SilverMK2 wrote:
Frazzled wrote:I am just trying to figure out HOW they received a search warrant. The judge's name wasn't Weiner was it? WTF kind of legal standard did they use for a NONCRIMINAL commercial issue.

Judge: "Hey, I'm just going to take some... clothes... to the laundry"
Receptionist: "Why do your laundry bags have dollar signs on them?"
Judge: "... DON'T JUDGE ME!"

**kronk**

I understand the need to practice and hone your skills.

This wasn't the time for going full-on, ape-gak crazy, though.

**Frazzled**

kronk wrote:I understand the need to practice and hone your skills.

This wasn't the time for going full-on, ape-gak crazy, though.

Well there are so many problems its not funny.
1) why was there an arrest warrant? What legal crime was committed? Not paying loans is not a criminal offense. Its a breach of contract.
(how the hell does the Department of Education get a criminal enforcement bureau? )
2) Why did they use SWAT? Why did they keep him locked up for 6 hours?

the whole thing sounds crazy, because it is crazy.