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Suppose you have a 40K/WHFB or LoTR army which is lacking some models.

What will you do if the particular model or unit you want is now available only in Finecast?

Combination of sources for me - my primary resource would be ebay but it seems prices are rising there too. Seems people are checking on the GW website and pricing their auctions accordingly, so the potential for bargains is diminished.

In the long term, I think I will look more into substitutes; there are plenty of other manufacturer's out there competing for my money so I am sure potential alternate minis exist.

I wouldn't buy Finecast anyway, since I have not bought from GW for some time now, but if I weren't on a self-imposed boycott, I still wouldn't buy it until such time as/if the manufacturing flaws are fixed.

As I always have, trade and ebay.

For exlusive new models that will only be resin moving forward, kitbashed older models or some GW alternative that will count as.

filbert wrote:I wouldn't buy Finecast anyway, since I have not bought from GW for some time now, but if I weren't on a self-imposed boycott, I still wouldn't buy it until such time as/if the manufacturing flaws are fixed.

Agreed. I like the idea of a softer resin rather than metal, as it makes converting easier. However, the point is moot since I am no longer buying GW products. Thus for me it would mean either converting one of my existing models, or buying a 3rd party model to convert/fill in for the "original".

While there is nothing I need from GW...I would likely heavily convert existing plastics to satisfy my needs or proxy non-GW minis. The truth of the matter for me is I'm done with GW and subsequently 40k. However I've been done with them for years now, so the shenanigans of the last couple of months only solidify my decision to leave 'the hobby'. GW's hobby that is.

filbert wrote:
In the long term, I think I will look more into substitutes; there are plenty of other manufacturer's out there competing for my money so I am sure potential alternate minis exist.

I wouldn't buy Finecast anyway, since I have not bought from GW for some time now, but if I weren't on a self-imposed boycott, I still wouldn't buy it until such time as/if the manufacturing flaws are fixed.

As above,

Substitue or *gulp* proxy.

If I am in the mood i would convert from my existing GW mini stockpile.

I don't buy from GW any more so this isn't really an issue for me. There are always sources available for second hand models on ebay or in the dakka swap shop. Then there is always the possibility to convert or buy suitable models from other companies to use as stand-ins.

So so far 5/6 of those not buying Finecast weren't buying GW metals or plastics anyway... so maybe not a huge dent in income to be noticed by GW.

I'm not right certain about finecast. I wouldn't go so far as to say I don't like it though so I won't vote. But if it comes to the point where I need a unit that's represented by a Finecast model, I'd almost certainly buy the finecast or convert or substitute another model (possibly converted) from GW or another manufacturer.

What am I going to do about it?

Ditch GW. I don't want anything to do with finecrap, no matter if they improve or not.


It doesn't have to do with the models, either, as I believe others discussion points that it was a rushed Idea, that didn't go through the correct QC, and was literally thrown at us.

It has to do with GW going over the top and pretty much driving me away.


When I have as much animosity tword a company over such trivial issues, I don't need the aggrivation anymore.

I have so much GW stuff that I can't realisticly just throw it in the trash, so It will sit in thier boxes and gradually disappear a little at a time.

If 6th edition improves, and if they change thier corperate D bag course, then I may play again, but as of now?

Finecrap is a moot point. It is enough to just stop playing, and not need it when I can get the miniatures second and third hand that I'd want then later.

Going to start playing other games, so the money wasted on finecrap goes to other interests.

Artemo wrote:So so far 5/6 of those not buying Finecast weren't buying GW metals or plastics anyway... so maybe not a huge dent in income to be noticed by GW.

Companies tend to notice when they lose 83% of their customers. Well most companies would.

I was a little upsetted with Finecast at first but now I'm just meh. If I need the model, I'll buy it, fully intending to return it if it's messed up. Or, I'll just use a similar model from another company if I like it better. Really not worth worrying about, at the end of the day they're just army men.

Until they get quality issues under control I will make do with metal models off eBay or converted plastics.

I'm still playing WH40K, but I won't buy Finecast no matter what. Even if it improves 150% I'll still stay away.

As Grot said, it's more to do with the company than it is the product....although the product seems to stink anyway.

Infinity, Anima Tactics, Malifaux, Enigma Miniatures, Hasslefree, Antenocitis, Andrea Miniatures, Tales of War, Avatars of War, (Mantic?), Studio McVey and others....that's where my Finecast dollars are going

Im going to ignore the "buy from diff manufacturer" thing and keep my comment to stuff I need that has to be GW or nothing.

Preferably Ill find a metal version somewhere. if I cant do that then Ill have to locate a finecast in person so I can inspect it.

I bit the bullet the other day and bought a Finecast miniature, whilst the detail seems to be a little sharper the over all quality of the figure was very poor. The banner which is a focal part fot he the figure was so thinly cast, in places, it was all but transparent.
Other issues were that certain detail is so covered in flash that triming it becomes very difficult as it is hard to distinguish between flash and model. Also the brittle nature of the resin material itself makes triming the flash off very hard to do without taking off the detail itself.
This has led me to re-visit my older armies and suppliment them with older lead stock from Ebay. Whilst this is proving very pricey to my mind it is worth it. Not only are the figures much better cast they have a really nice heavy feel of quality. If I come up against a figure which doesn't have a lead counterpart then I simply convert one up from plastics.

Every single model I own has come from Ebay. My purchases were informed by a simple comparison of price and condition, weighted slightly by factors of coolness and/or usefulness, in game. If I ever go back and buy more, I'm not going to change my methods (unless due to, say, loyalty engendered by play at a new game store warranting the occasional purchase). If I can find serviceable metal models for cheaper, I'll stick with them. If I somehow end up really "needing" a model I can only find in Finecast, it's not the end of the world - I just don't anticipate that happening. It's already been quite some time since my last 40k model purchase and I haven't been suffering for lack of new models (barring the excruciating wait for my Infinity models to ship ).

Convert them or buy old ones off ebay. I know for a fact I'm doing a combination of those for plague marines. 45$ for seven models? Are you kidding GW?

I haven't bought a finecast model, but I wasn't a huge fan of metal models either.

I was making plastic versions of metal models long before the 'ZOMG FINECRAP SUX GW IS THE WORST COMPANY EVAR" debacle, so even if I don't like finecast it will be business as usual for me.

It's all about plastic. I much prefer it to resin anyway.

Unfortunately the poll does not include a "cast models from ones I already own" so I could not vote. For me the cost of Finecast is so completely out of proportion to the quality as to be ridiculous.

Grot 6 wrote:What am I going to do about it?

Ditch GW. I don't want anything to do with finecrap, no matter if they improve or not.


It doesn't have to do with the models, either, as I believe others discussion points that it was a rushed Idea, that didn't go through the correct QC, and was literally thrown at us.

It has to do with GW going over the top and pretty much driving me away.


When I have as much animosity tword a company over such trivial issues, I don't need the aggrivation anymore.

I have so much GW stuff that I can't realisticly just throw it in the trash, so It will sit in thier boxes and gradually disappear a little at a time.

If 6th edition improves, and if they change thier corperate D bag course, then I may play again, but as of now?

Finecrap is a moot point. It is enough to just stop playing, and not need it when I can get the miniatures second and third hand that I'd want then later.

Going to start playing other games, so the money wasted on finecrap goes to other interests.

This.

This poll is missing a "I am leaving GW option".

laestli wrote:Unfortunately the poll does not include a "cast models from ones I already own" so I could not vote. For me the cost of Finecast is so completely out of proportion to the quality as to be ridiculous.

Dakka Dakka does not, of course, endorse such measures. At all.

I get all my GW stuff from eBay or alternate means anyway, so no change for me.

However I do see the potential for metal miniatures replaced by Finecast to raise in value on the internet, which is not a good thing. If the price disparity raises high enough and I want a miniature badly enough I may, with some irony, be forced into buying Finecast at sufficient discount from an internet retailer..

Ditto the "No GW products for me any more" posts.

There are so many games and wonderful models that are non GW I have no need for Finecast

Kilkrazy wrote:

What will you do if the particular model or unit you want is now available only in Finecast?

Go play warmachine. You left out that option.

IF I wanted to upgrade sisters army and its fine cast? Convert convert convert....

Buy the metal model second hand.
Buy an alternative from another party.
Convert my own from what I have.

Otherwise, invest in a rubber company.

Same thing I always do. I don't buy things I don't need or want (mostly want). I don't want finecast.
And I am going to do what i always do. Go outside and enjoy the good weather

What I will do:

1. Buy plastic or metal.

2. If plastic or metal is not available, convert if at all possible.

3. If neither of the above is possible, feasible, or convenient, buy finecast knowing full well that it will take more time and effort than options 1 or 2 to clean/repair to get marginally acceptable results

So I guess for me the option should state:

- settle for finecast as a last resort, after all other options are exhausted


I have had zero unflawed finecasts of four purchased, so I'm really unhappy with them. And when I say unflawed, I'm talking about miscasts or structural weaknesses. ...These are not mold lines or flash (just to be clear).

if for some reason i felt the urge to start playing 40k again i would most liikely scour ebay/btown/dakka for what i need.

laestli wrote:Unfortunately the poll does not include a "cast models from ones I already own" so I could not vote. For me the cost of Finecast is so completely out of proportion to the quality as to be ridiculous.

That's because it is against forum rules to promote recasting.