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Never mentioned techpriests, same as didn't mention mekboys. There are however quite a few IC's with vehicle repair.
Also, I did post this in "Fun List of RAW Fun", this being the thread we are in currently.

jayjester wrote:Never mentioned techpriests, same as didn't mention mekboys. There are however quite a few IC's with vehicle repair.
Also, I did post this in "Fun List of RAW Fun", this being the thread we are in currently.

Weird i got ma threads mixed up

Cheeslord wrote:What he said ...

at least they don't insta-give killpoints now (that was epically bad).

Mark.

Last codex they didn't, they weren't scoring units. Doesn't that mean they arn't worth killpoints?

HiveFleetGoliath wrote:

Cheeslord wrote:What he said ...

at least they don't insta-give killpoints now (that was epically bad).

Mark.

Last codex they didn't, they weren't scoring units. Doesn't that mean they arn't worth killpoints?

No.
If non-scoring units wheren't worth KPs then what of all the HQ, Elite, Fast attack, and Heavy support units are they worth no KPs either?

any UNIT gives kill points, regardless of scoring or not.

The third paragraph of Codex: Tyranids states that the Doom of Malan'tai is a type of Zoanthrope (p 58). He has access to all Zoanthrope powers and invulnerable saves.

The description of Master of the Forge says he is the most senior Techmarine in a Chapter. He has access to the bolster defences rule.

The Master of the Forge's bolster defenses works just fine no matter how you read these kinds of rules. The ability mentions the Techmarine but directs the player to actually take the action of bolstering a ruin.

Brother-Sergeant Chronos MUST be assigned to one tank in the army. If you take this to the logical extreme you cannot play a Codex:Space Marines army without taking Chronos.

Ludovic wrote:Brother-Sergeant Chronos MUST be assigned to one tank in the army. If you take this to the logical extreme you cannot play a Codex:Space Marines army without taking Chronos.

Deff Dreads must take two weapons. Does this somehow mean that you need to take a Deff Dread?

The untis ordered to fire with Bring it Down! and Fire on my Target! by a CCS do not need line of sight on the unit they are firing on. The line specifically reads "the ordered unit immediatly shoots at the nominated target" in both cases, and only the CCS has to have line of sight to nominate a unit.

Also, for a Move, Move, Move! it reads "rolling three dice and using the highest result", which could very well mean the sum of two or all three dice as your highest "result", allowing your guardsmen to run up to 18 inches.

darkdm wrote:The untis ordered to fire with Bring it Down! and Fire on my Target! by a CCS do not need line of sight on the unit they are firing on. The line specifically reads "the ordered unit immediatly shoots at the nominated target" in both cases, and only the CCS has to have line of sight to nominate a unit.

Also, for a Move, Move, Move! it reads "rolling three dice and using the highest result", which could very well mean the sum of two or all three dice as your highest "result", allowing your guardsmen to run up to 18 inches.

1) Yes and when you check for LoS one would fail so all shots will automatically miss.

2) No, just no. Your English needs some work if you're trying to say that.

There's no definition of a "one-shot" weapon in the BRB or in most weapon descriptions. Most "one-shot" weapons are merely given a weapon attribute of "one-shot" and when you try to look it up it's not in the book.

So, either one-shot weapons cannot be used because they have no rules for them, or you ignore the nonexistent "one-shot" rule and get to fire them as many times as you want.

Fail. The rule book is NOT inclusive (if you disagree, find the GW 40k definition of "the") therefore you determine what "one shot" means in English.

That is fairly clear.

"One shot only, ever, in a game" is clear. "One shot" is not, for the purposes of this thread. It could mean one shot in a round even if there are rules that would otherwise allow you to shoot twice such as mystics. Or it could mean the shot could never be twin linked even if there are rules that would allow that such as Bring It Down.

One shot is very clear, you have One Shot with that weapon. The rest are just very tenuous attempts at muddying it.

Doesnt alter that your position relied on treating a non-inclusive ruleset as inclusive, which is never going to work!

MasterSlowPoke wrote:

bloog wrote:

Pika_power wrote:The Rage USR breaks the rulebook, because there is no way to check LOS in the movement phase.

Are you saying you're not allowed to check LOS in the movement phase at all?

I ask because this came up the other day in a game...

Don't actually listen to anything that's said in this thread.

That said, he's allowed to, but when he tries to, he'll be stuck. Just ask him for a page reference on how to check LoS. He'll direct you to the shooting phase rules, which all reference shooting or 'the shooting phase'. Gotta love RaW.

Brood Progenitor: All units of Termagants, spawned or otherwise, within 6" of a Tervigon can use the Tervigon's Leadership for any test they are required to make.

Initiative test for JotWW, Toughness test for being a Chaos Spawn...

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

Brood Progenitor: All units of Termagants, spawned or otherwise, within 6" of a Tervigon can use the Tervigon's Leadership for any test they are required to make.

Initiative test for JotWW, Toughness test for being a Chaos Spawn...

? what are you on about ?
None of those tests use Leadership. Even though they may use the Tervigon's Ld for them it does nothing as they are testing against the Termagant's Initiative and Toughness respectively.

? what are you on about ?
None of those tests use Leadership. Even though they may use the Tervigon's Ld for them it does nothing as they are testing against the Termagant's Initiative and Toughness respectively.

It doesn't matter it says you can substitute the Tervigons Ld value of 10 for any test you are required to take. So you will take a toughness test against the value of 10 (not the value of LD10 which is meaningless).

FlingitNow wrote:

? what are you on about ?
None of those tests use Leadership. Even though they may use the Tervigon's Ld for them it does nothing as they are testing against the Termagant's Initiative and Toughness respectively.

It doesn't matter it says you can substitute the Tervigons Ld value of 10 for any test you are required to take. So you will take a toughness test against the value of 10 (not the value of LD10 which is meaningless).

That is some crazy reading ... you know if you follow that logic then the Termagants are going to be shooting at BS10 at max strength for the gun (since that's capped) with ten shots on the spine fist ... In Close combat 10 attacks at WS 10 wounding at str10 ... and it can be toughness 10 ....

Na i think i prefer my reading that you use the type for type. Yes you may always use the Tervigon Ld but it only does anything on a LD test. Still guess it does have a place here since you can read it both ways.

That is some crazy reading ... you know if you follow that logic then the Termagants are going to be shooting at BS10 at max strength for the gun (since that's capped) with ten shots on the spine fist ... In Close combat 10 attacks at WS 10 wounding at str10 ... and it can be toughness 10 ....

None of those incidences are tests. You might prefer your reading but by RaW for any "test" you are required to take as a Termagaunt you can use the value of 10.

As above, an "Initiative test" is a "test" just like a "Pinning test," "Leadership Test," Toughness Test," etc. If an "Initiative test" isn't a test, then neither is a "Leadership test" by the same logic. Either way it's messed up

This is a separate point.

If you are asked to make a test with a given modifier, is that modifier applied to the dice roll or the stat being rolled against?

I believe it actually modifies the dice roll, I know it does for Ld tests.

It applies to the stat, i.e. testing pinning at -1 means you test at [Ld-1] - making it easier to get pinned.

Same for break teats - you test at [Ld - difference in wounds] vs 2D6, so it gets harder to pass as you lose by greater amounts. Which is what you would expect..

Here's one.

Culexus Assassins are always Leadership 7 as they are affected by their own Soulless rule!

Nork Deggog only counts as one model for the purpose of transports.

As well as getting the benefit of priest's rerolls.

Klawz wrote:Nork Deggog only counts as one model for the purpose of transports.

Nork Deggog is identified as an Ogryn. Call it fluff all you want; the codex still says otherwise.

And both the Honour Guard and Command Squad from Codex:Space Marines are identified as "retinues" in their fluff, but they aren't Retinues.