Tau soon.....probably

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**docbrown**

If that's the case then etherals vespid krootox and gun drones will get a major boost

**SonicPara**

I'm still just so wary of getting another outdated codex. I know everyone says that the last several books are designed with the next edition in mind (see Heavy* on the Monolith in the new Necron book) but the Tau have been perpetually screwed with outdated codices immediately before a new edition. As long as GW just makes Tau balanced to hang with the common armies then all is good.

**DarkStarSabre**

-Loki- wrote:I hear that all the time, and I still have yet to have a a Warrior ID'd.

Though it's really the terrible target priority from my friend. He'd rather fire his dark lances at my Hive Guard, who can soak it up with T6, or my Zoanthropes, which bounces off their 3++ save, and prefers to assault my warriors.

I guess I should be thankful it's keeping my Warriors as a viable unit.

You must be lucky. Local metagame here is very S8 heavy. And my IG friend just loves Warriors.

He was grinning as some poor other Tyranid player's nice big Warrior brood went splat in Turn 1 due to a Master of Ordinance.

**Acardia**

DarkStarSabre wrote:
-Loki- wrote:I hear that all the time, and I still have yet to have a a Warrior ID'd.

Though it's really the terrible target priority from my friend. He'd rather fire his dark lances at my Hive Guard, who can soak it up with T6, or my Zoanthropes, which bounces off their 3++ save, and prefers to assault my warriors.

I guess I should be thankful it's keeping my Warriors as a viable unit.

You must be lucky. Local metagame here is very S8 heavy. And my IG friend just loves Warriors.

He was grinning as some poor other Tyranid player's nice big Warrior brood went splat in Turn 1 due to a Master of Ordinance.

I've never had one ID'd except by fist. I always outflank mine so they usually get stuck in right away.

**SickSix**

Kroothawk wrote:Posted on Warseer, another version of what may come in 40k:

Lord Commissar Aquila wrote:Ok, so I was talking with someone who has connections to one of the model designers, and this is what he told me:

1. The Eldar dex will be out right before the release of 6th edition. Phil Kelly is the writer, which is why he wasn't able to write up the Cron codex.

2. 6th Ed will be released in June or July of next year (2012) if everything goes to plan; its currently in playtesting right now.

3. The starter set might be the Fall of Damnos, but he said he wasn't completely sure it would be set there. It will include Space Marines, of course.

4. CSM will get one of the newest dexes in 6th, right after the Marine dex.

5. Tau and BT will get a release soon after CSM; other races updated in 5th will not be updated in 6th as their rules (at least from Guard onwards) are allready suited for 6th. Ward will probably do the BT and might do Tau as well. DA will probably not be updated anytime soon, because its not a popular army and GW does not want to waste money updating one or more armies that almost no one plays with a separate dex.
(...)
He told me, in no uncertain terms, that Tau and BT will be getting an update soon after CSM (Tau first).

Fall of Damnos= Ultramarines vs. Necrons, contradicts with most other rumours.
Ward officially denied writing the Tau Codex.

On Black templars next:

Harry wrote:Sounds about right to me.
I certainly heard about these guys before heard much about Tau .... the order I hear about them was Necrons and Sisters at the same time, Black Templars then Tau.

Not sure what the story is with Sisters but they must be in the mix somewhere.

Another version of a possible release schedule. The original thread is probably right under/above this one now.

**CpatTom**

New release schedule rumours. See post above.

**Hox**

So he said there wont be a 40k release for the next 7ish months? BS

**-Loki-**

Considering this year was a Fantasy year (which is why we saw 3 armies, a huge expansion and dreadfleet) and next year is a 40k year, not having a big 40k release until April doesn't make sense.

**Hox**

-Loki- wrote:Considering this year was a Fantasy year (which is why we saw 3 armies, a huge expansion and dreadfleet) and next year is a 40k year, not having a big 40k release until April doesn't make sense.

Not april. June

**-Loki-**

Makes even less sense. Even with Empire and/or Vampires at the start of next year, there's room for a 40k army release or two before June.

**docbrown**

Tau is not popular.
Of course not Because they need a new codex.
I hope to god that gw is not as stupid as this implies.
Armies get shelved as they become obselete while people wait for them to become relevant again. So why would policy be to ignore them for armies THAT ARE STILL BEING PLAYED.

**Brother SRM**

docbrown wrote:Tau is not popular.
Of course not Because they need a new codex.
I hope to god that gw is not as stupid as this implies.
Armies get shelved as they become obselete while people wait for them to become relevant again. So why would policy be to ignore them for armies THAT ARE STILL BEING PLAYED.

Considering Dark Eldar were arguably the least popular army due to such an ugly and unsupported range only to become the new hotness, I wouldn't worry.

**docbrown**

Brother SRM wrote:
docbrown wrote:Tau is not popular.
Of course not Because they need a new codex.
I hope to god that gw is not as stupid as this implies.
Armies get shelved as they become obselete while people wait for them to become relevant again. So why would policy be to ignore them for armies THAT ARE STILL BEING PLAYED.

Considering Dark Eldar were arguably the least popular army due to such an ugly and unsupported range only to become the new hotness, I wouldn't worry.

Was aimed at the comment not what will Acctually happen. GW is marine biased but there not dumb enough to flat out ignore armies because their obsolete ass isn't selling

**AlmightyWalrus**

docbrown wrote:
Brother SRM wrote:
docbrown wrote:Tau is not popular.
Of course not Because they need a new codex.
I hope to god that gw is not as stupid as this implies.
Armies get shelved as they become obselete while people wait for them to become relevant again. So why would policy be to ignore them for armies THAT ARE STILL BEING PLAYED.

Considering Dark Eldar were arguably the least popular army due to such an ugly and unsupported range only to become the new hotness, I wouldn't worry.

Was aimed at the comment not what will Acctually happen. GW is marine biased but there not dumb enough to flat out ignore armies because their obsolete ass isn't selling

Except GW isn't "marine biased". With the exception of the Vanilla Codex, all the Marine armies, including the GK, that have been updated to 5th had either a 3rd edition Codex (SW, GK) or a PDF (BA). This, in turn, is because GW released a lot of non-Marine armies during 4th. Now that every 3rd edition Codex is gone, GW can start working on those trapped in 4th.

**notprop**

Funny I have seen quite a few Tau armies about, not including my own one. Definitely not obsolete as a race, definitely out of date as a codex.

People definitely like the Tau aesthetic evidenced by FW expanding on them so much, least we forget that they were the first race expanded upon in IA3. Clearly someone thinks that they sell.

**mega_bassist**

Ok, or according to this rumor, new Rulebook in June/July, then the codex releases will go CSM, Tau, BT, Eldar? Sounds interesting, but that's a really long wait :/

**IPS**

according to ghost tau are the last 5th ed army -> before chaos book.

ghost21 wrote:as far as i understand it they (Tau) would be the last 5th ed army

I'll just put my trust into him. : )

**docbrown**

No I want a 6th codex

I have a simPle question
Why is it that it takes untill nearly the end of 5th to redo all the 3rd codexes

**Prodigalson**

Gonna have to call BS on the rumors.

Harry says that the tau are in proofreading, and all rumors seem to be for tau as last codex of 5th. That's fine with me, that means that they will be like orks last edition, and orks are still winning tournaments.

Black Templars - February/March
Tau - April/May
6th Edition July
CSM - September-November
Eldar January-Feburary next year

Sounds good to me. The only crappy part is that I had to live through years of blood angels (don't play), tyranids (don't play), Guard (don't play), Space wolves (don't play) to now get every army I do play except Dark Angels.

I'm going to go with ghost21 and harry on this one.

**Backfire**

SonicPara wrote:I'm still just so wary of getting another outdated codex. I know everyone says that the last several books are designed with the next edition in mind (see Heavy* on the Monolith in the new Necron book) but the Tau have been perpetually screwed with outdated codices immediately before a new edition.

Actually 4th Edition Tau codex was in the middle of the edition, before they probably knew what 5th edition would change. Late 4th codices have generally done ok in the 5th, Orks dominated the game for quite some time...

**Brother SRM**

I don't understand why people who think the Tau codex will come out before 6th won't be ready for 6th. Considering that Necrons are made with 6th in mind, Tau will too no matter what. It's not something worth getting as worked up about as some people are thinking.

**Kendo**

I agree with the above poster. I think that the Tau will be 5th edition in name only and be as geared for 6th as reasonably possible. If we are already seeing 6th edition language show up in Necron Codex, I can image any other codex that follows will be the same.

**docbrown**

the thing is they hav to be relevant for 5th so that does lead t some limits

**Brother SRM**

docbrown wrote:the thing is they hav to be relevant for 5th so that does lead t some limits

Barring some ridiculous change, it doesn't. Necrons (and more codices going further back, but Necrons is the only one we know for sure) are written with 6th in mind and work perfectly fine in 5th. Also please work on your typing, it's very sloppy.

**Prodigalson**

Also, the rumor is that the tau will now be out around May. If that's true... then 6th edition will be two months out at that point. They will barely be in 5th edition before the 6th edition book is out. I expect for the book to really be the first 6th edition completely book, just like orks were.

They only thing we will have to wait for is the fact that the book won't be hardback, which sucks a bit, but that's the breaks.

**Kilkrazy**

It doesn't matter if the codex should come out in late 5th providing GW don't make any major rules changes in 6th that invalidate specific Tau stuff.

If the codex crosses over it will be fine for the whole of 6th except for any malarkey in actual 6th edition codexes.

**MoD_Legion**

Kilkrazy wrote:It doesn't matter if the codex should come out in late 5th providing GW don't make any major rules changes in 6th that invalidate specific Tau stuff.

Mutters something about targetting priority rules and target locks

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I wish GW would stop the whole we-wont-tell-you-anything-until-its-here thing. If've been holding off purchasing more Tau since the rumours first started appearing (partly because I still have so much left to finish), because I dont want to get shafted buying stuff that might get 10x more awesome models/because useless after half a year :(.

**Prodigalson**

Yea, but Tau weren't a late 4th edition codex, they were mid. It would be like Tyranids getting screwed by the new rules... and honestly I don't see how they can make that codex worse.

I agree. I'm considering filling out a few firewarrior slots, including pulse carbines (I don't have any) but I would hate to get them, paint them, then find out they don't work.

**Brother SRM**

MoD_Legion wrote:
Mutters something about targetting priority rules and target locks .

I wish GW would stop the whole we-wont-tell-you-anything-until-its-here thing. If've been holding off purchasing more Tau since the rumours first started appearing (partly because I still have so much left to finish), because I dont want to get shafted buying stuff that might get 10x more awesome models/because useless after half a year :(.

I wouldn't expect anything to get worse, so buy away

The only plastics I see getting replaced are battlesuits, and that's probably to do a broadside/crisis kit with options for both.

**wyomingfox**

Prodigalson wrote:Yea, but Tau weren't a late 4th edition codex, they were mid. It would be like Tyranids getting screwed by the new rules...

Again.

Prodigalson wrote:and honestly I don't see how they can make that codex worse.

Yes, it could. In fact, When 5th edition first came out, Tyranids were far worse off than they currently are. At least now we have catalyst and hive guard under the latest codex.