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Mine is 6" or so, but I have the tentacles facing mostly backwards.

The tentacles are probably 3" long with the body being 4" or so and another 1-1 1/2" for the tail. If you have it reaching, it couldend up being a good 8" long.

Mine is posed with a figure in its tentacles being pulled in though, so it is a good bit shorter than that.


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Just to put it in perspective with something you will be familiar with...

Okay. That ain't small.

Can't say I'm too surprised to hear the big sellers are the pieces that used to cost drastically much more than their Bones counterpart.

Gives me hope for some of those dragon mount figures ending up as Bones figures. I would not mind at all if they end up in one of those cavalry stretches.

Sean, any signs of Reptus stuff?

Going insane every day for four weeks straight was never going to happen. They and we knew their first day was going to be insane, and honestly I'm kind of glad they haven't tried to force it to stay that way.

And while we're on the topic, let's be real, 1.45m is already well past "amazing". The bar was set high with their first campaign, but let's not peak too early. It wouldn't surprise me if it was intended to go at a bit of a trot for now. 50k here, 100k there, and then let it ramp up in the last week or so. Right now the word is getting out, people are hearing about the campaign and seeing the limited slots and yeah it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people stuck with $1/$100 until we get closer to the end.

This can be a variety of reasons in action; international backers waiting to see what the actual calculator says their pledge should cost to ship (as opposed to the estimate we have now, solid as that may be), waiting to see what the 'best deal' will be in the add ons, and simply people not wanting to mess with their total repeatedly over the coming weeks.

To that end, the pledge manager may be working slightly against them at this point, as a lot of backers may simply not care about adding towards stretch goals and are willing to wait until that pops up so they can fiddle around with their funds and total numbers without further adjustments necessary due to a potentially crazy number of stretch goals I imagine we're all half expecting to be out there.

Long story short, I agree it'd be nice to be clearing goals a bit more quickly and seeing what else is on the horizon (people keep dropping hints about Terrain and that's my primary interest, personally), but I think after the issues they mentioned having last time, they're approaching this one in a very methodical manner, and that shows they learned a lot, which isn't something we should really be complaining about.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:
KS1 had some scorpions and spiders in the vermin option that were man sizedish (sort of depends on how you measure mansized).

They are based on these

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/scorpion/sku-down/03528

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/scorpion%20bones/latest/77125

The spiders give you a few more options, though this would be my mansized spider choice

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/spider%20kevin/sku-down/59031

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/spider%20kevin/sku-down/77126

For larger spiders, you have this one

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/bones%20spider/sku-down/77025

It was a pre KS1 release, so you may have missed it (I dont think it was an addon at all).


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But yes, there is definately room for more bugs...just not sure if there is room for another vermin within this campaign. Maybe along with one of there freaking huge spiders or demon bugs. Vermin, while popular are not the sort of thing that get too many people excited.

Yeah, I was all over the first kickstarter and the bugs. I was mostly hoping for something larger of the 8-legged variety.(I wonder if they'll let you add on from single in the $50 expansion? Army of Scorpions, here I come!)

 Phobos wrote:
Is it me or does it seem like this kickstarter is going really slow? It broke 1 mil in 24 hours, and now just under a week later it's done less than half that.

A backer crunched the numbers and said that the first-day stretch goals were set at 5% above the current pledge, while later ones were 10% above. Also, the pledges are set up suchthat the sooner you pledge, the sooner you get your stuff. However, about 10% of backers chose the $1 option, hampering the funding numbers. We had a +10K bump when the first expansion was completed, so maybe the expansions do increase funding. Average pledge per backer is $129 vs. $194 last KS, but the last KS didn't have the $1 miniatures level. I'm *guessing* that the next bump up will be when the pledge manager is released, so internationals can make an estimate of how much shipping to add.

@Sinful: Reaper said that backers cannot order individual miniatures / groups from the Expansions. ): But there's always retail!

 Sean_OBrien wrote:

 fullheadofhair wrote:
I moved my pledge to the $1 for the add ones. I have to admit that what is now in the core set just isn't appealling enough barring a few mini's. I am more excited by the add-ons. Atm the ratio of good Reaper mini's to "meh" and "oh god, why did that get made" isn't improving enough for me to stay.

Personally, I would rather they dropped out some of the crappy ones in there and stick a dragon in there.

I was hoping it was going to improve but a couple of dragons and a few extra bits will be it I think.

Even a fairly conservative estimate is that you will get another 4 goals added into the core, with more likely 6 or 7. That means that a whole lot of extra stuff is still in play being still 19 days from the end of this campaign. I would think that if you were thinking of the core at all, you might want to at least wait till we get closer till the end before you stick a fork in it.

I get that, but what is being added isn't that appealing and most of the adds are "pay for it" ones and the expansion is starting to look better than the core. I will see what the next expansion is, but as I said overall this particular campaign isn't as appealing as the last one in the models that are being selected and the way we have to pay for them.

As always, just my opinion - I know others are really happy with it.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:

You also have problems with the wait and see crowd. Right now, the large majority of backers simply pledged the base line amount in order to get their spot in line and are going to come back near the end to adjust their final pledge amount. The pledge per backer is only $125. Chances are the final number will be closer to $225 or $250 (quite possibly much higher depending on how many people get one of everything). That could be an extra $1.5 million just with the current backers pledges. You will even have some who feel no need to come back around as they assume they will be able to add money in much later through a pledge manager.

People often miss that important aspect of these campaigns. New goals only come from pledged dollars, and they must be pledged during the campaign to unlock anything. That is why I always remind people to just figure out what they think they might pledge in the end (speculation on releases and finances..I know) and place that. It will help to move everything forward and you dont end up spending a lot of time ho-humming about it.

I'm part of that "wait and see" crowd. I usually go into these things nowadays with as much as I'm comfortable with on Day 1 (if I can get an early bird, these days) and then let it ride until the end when I'll make an actual decision either way. In the case of this campaign, I'm not nearly as taken with it as with the first one for a whole variety of reasons, which have combined to the extent of me being unsure if I'll stay in at all. If I do, it'll likely be in the range of $300+, but at the moment, I can't say whether I'll even stay in. With that in mind, sitting at $100 is right for me.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:

Even a fairly conservative estimate is that you will get another 4 goals added into the core, with more likely 6 or 7. That means that a whole lot of extra stuff is still in play being still 19 days from the end of this campaign. I would think that if you were thinking of the core at all, you might want to at least wait till we get closer till the end before you stick a fork in it.

With some campaigns I've dropped down to $1 on that last day when I make the final decision. On others I raise or lower as appropriate. Yet others I've been unsure, but kept an eye on, then come in with a decently large pledge literally in the last day. At this point, Bones II is literally neither compelling enough for me to add in any more (even speculative shipping) nor annoying enough for me to drop out (especially since I'll lose my "place in line" if I do so.) I'm content to wait for now and not fiddle with it.

Ronald X on the reaper board had done some useful calculation

http://www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?/topic/51749-deal-or-no-deal-calculating-value-in-ks2/#entry775683

(I've copied bits of his post below)

"The purple core set has a total cost in metal (except the ones already available in bones, which are priced here as in their bones format) of $787.98, not including 32 new figures which are not yet priced. I'm going to average and extrapolate that out.

142 minis in core - 32 unpriced = 110 priced

$787.98/110 = $7.16 average price

$7.16 x 32 = $229.23 approximate price for the 32 unpriced minis

Total cost for core set in metal = 787.98 + 229.23 = $1017.21 (approximate)

So we can figure from this that the approximate price for every figure in here when they are released as Bones will be roughly 40% (this figure is based on what KS1 bones prices ended up at) of $1017.21, or $406.

This price again is approximate, but you could safely say that buying the entire set 1 mini at a time in Bones would cost you roughly $400USD."


I'll add this

since Reaper sells the KS1 vampire box at a discount I suspect you'll be able to pick up the KS2 box at some point in the future for about $300USD)

back to Ronald X

"As far as the Core Expansion, the total cost to buy that one in metal is $406.80. [...] It's bones equivalent at an estimated 40% value is $162.72. Your $50 pledge is getting you what would cost you roughly $160 to buy if you did it later on."

(again I'll predict you'll be able to pick up the whole box from reaper at a discount, so probably $120 or so)

Yep, over metal prices, the savings are huge. Since Reaper roughly uses the metal price to calculate the retail price, the savings on larger items tends to be even greater.

There is definately a greater incentive still for skirmish gamers and RPG players (in particular DMs), but a lot of figures have been released in batches of 3 or more which makes them pretty friendly when building armies (more would still be better).

In other news, the campaign itself is still chugging along at a pretty descent clip. Since yesterday about this time it added $45K, and today is on track to do about the same or a little better. In the first campaign they managed to increase the pledge amount every day after the first few, so hopefully this will start a trend in a upwards as opposed to flat trajectory which could put it in good shape for a $6 million finish or so.

Sometimes the illusion of progress is more important than the actual progress. Every day that Bones hits a stretch goal feels like a success. Every day that Bones fails to make a single stretch goal makes it feel like the campaign has stalled out, which can lead people to drop pledges because they don't think many interesting minis will be added to the core set. "Successful" days breed consumer confidence and "failure" days breed doubt.

If Reaper just put out updates with new images--WIPs, design sketches, pictures of Bryan sitting at a desk, whatever, it would probably help the illusion that something is happening.

I'm dropping my Early Bird (September Delivery) pledge on this, if anyone on Dakka would like to snap it up, PM me with your skype address and a GMT time that you'll be online so we can sort out me dropping my pledge and you camping the page and snapping it up in real-time.

EDIT: Successfully dropped, and claimed by Laughing Man.

Nice enough KS, but $80+ shipping and duty is too high (I have never seen fees this high, not even from kickstarters like Secret Weapon, which is shipping stuff that is far, far, heavier.. the only logical conclusion is that they could sort something out, but feel like it wouldn't be an efficient use of capital and might risk the KS becoming too big compared to focusing on US-only), and I don't get any choice over what I'm getting, so around 60% of the models would be ebay/trade fodder.

I'll cherrypick whatever I want off ebay from other people's packages when they're delivered. Some nice minis that I want in there, but they don't add up to $180.

At 1,488 right now. The next stretch should be broken late this evening or tomorrow early I expect.

For those of you who went in on Bones 1.0, you might remember that there was a great resource on using the Kickstarter to link to the Reaper Catalog..

http://greg.botch.com/bones

Well.. Greg has gone ahead and started work on the graphic and link for Bones 2.0, and the web address is ..

http://greg.botch.com/bones2

Hope this helps you all.. it sure helps me!

Lastly.. if you see a correlation between an existing figure and the Bones 2 Kickstarter, Greg would appreciate a heads up so he can update the graphic.

greg at botch dot com

is how you can get him that info.

-Porkuslime

It does help - thank you very much!

Whoops...

Anyway, not sure about a stretch being reached today...still got a way to go.

One thing that is interesting is that this campaign seems to surge about $10k righf before and after a goal is reached. Other campaigns do as well, but with those it tends to be a few hundred to a thousand dollars.

Well, we've got the pledge calculator now.

Still waiting to see where my Reptus are...

I honestly wish they'd send out some kind of daily update, just to have the illusion of progress being made. I know things keep climbing, but I love seeing those emails from Reaper (and secretly hoping they have photos of new things to spend money on).

And for those who don't want to go looking...

Update #38

Oct 9, 2013

Behold, the Reaper KS Pledge Calculator!


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It slices, it dices, it… Yeah, yeah, I know, enough prattle.

For those of you returning it should be self-explanatory, but for those of you new to our Kickstarter here’s how it works.

1) Register and create a login – We need to know what you want and where you live.

2) Select the quantities of any Extras, Options and Expansions you want. In the upper right hand corner you’ll see the tally of your choices including shipping when required.

When you’re finished, click the green Pledge button. You’ll be taken to Kickstarter’s Pledge Page, and you’ll see your pledge amount in the box. Please follow Kickstarter’s instructions to complete your Pledge.

Here is the link to the Pledge Calculator: https://ks.reapermini.com/

What happens to the Pledge Calculator and my choices after your Kickstarter is concluded?

After the end of our campaign, the Pledge Calculator becomes the Pledge Manager. Your existing choices will be saved, and all that’s left for you to do is give it a final review and lock in your selections.

Will I be able to add more items via the pledge manager after the KS campaign is over?

Yep. One more thing! Per Kickstarter policy you’re limited to no more than 10 of the same item. There will be no exceptions so please don’t ask. Anyway, painting 10 of the same thing would get boring ☺


~Reaper

Looking good. Tossed in my info, selected a single Dungeon deco pack add on for $10, it gave me a S&H of another $6-7. Tossing another 10 on for the gelatinous cube only bumped it up a little.

The $100 pack was $33 in S&H, significantly less rough than I'd anticipated it being. Still don't think I really need 120+ odd figures, but having missed Reaper one, it'd be a hell of a pile in case I ever ran a D&D crew again.

*ponders*

Pretty reasonable shipping for me up to Canada. 40 bucks for 400 dollars worth of minis.

Hmm. $45-$55 to ship a craptonne of minis across the Atlantic. Not all that bad.

Seems as though plenty of people agree...

It has gone up by almost $20K since the pledge calculator was posted. This last half hour has been $3K alone.

That is a well done Pledge Calculator/Manager!

Clever too, as I've already upped my Pledge to the 'correct' amount!

Had to up my pledge 40 bucks. Where on earth did that come from!

They have also added the option to add multiples of the various stretch goals:

That swamp thing set for 8 dollars is a pretty good deal, considering that troll alone runs around 30 dollars or so. Plus he's one of those metal and resin hybrids that don't want to go together well.

Might get another and swarm the swamps with the frogs and turtles since it doesn't look like there's any other reptiles on the horizon (I'm not going to count the dragons). Yet.

I'm in for $100. I'll probably buy the $50 add-on, too.

I'll probably grab the expansion. I just worry about the inevitable expansion 2 as well.

I'm thinking we should probably hit that slinky dragon stretch in the next few hours.

Hopefully with the pledge calculator live it will keep things going at a little more steady clip.

I'm very curious as to how much they'll bring in if they do end up offering Warlord infantry packs as add ons. Cavalry too, since we know that's coming.

Ahh good to see they put this up. For 3 Krakens the shipping to Australia is only $15. That's very reasonable imho. Will likely take the dungeon decor from the starter box too.

Should see more people pledging now they have the full calculator sorted.

Yeah, really liking the ability to buy parts of the Core set separately. Dungeon Decor 1 & 2 for $23 shipped isn't too shabby. Have to keep an eye out for more terrain stuff to spruce up the 3 Dwarven Forge KS sets I've got coming.

Well, late next year, that is.