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Basically what is the meanest army list you have ever played against. Not specific to armies because an army is made by how good the list is and how good the player is who wields that list. So if you have it post a list of the meanest army you have ever played against and why it was so tough for you. I am looking for the times where you lined up and you literally thought I cant win this game. lol those armies.


I will start it off. The meanest army I have ever faced is one that I have been able to conquer. It went as follows:

Chaos Daemons:

Fateweaver

Skarbrand

Elite:

8 Blood crushers (all upgrades)

8 Blood Crushers (all upgrades)

8 Blood Crushers (all upgrades)

Troops:

khorne or plague 5-10 each with a few icons

Fast:

Screamers

Screamers

Heavy:

Daemon Prince w/ wings
Daemon Prince w/ wings
Daemon Prince w/ wings

This was a 2500 point ard boyz army. It was ridiculous to face. Even with my Nasty IG I had issues putting out the amount of fire power to take down so many threats. The trick I finally learned to beat it was to kill fateweaver early and to concentrate all of my forces one target at a time and prioritizing the threats as best I could. This army is a nightmare to most and many dont fear playing daemons.

So what is your alls nasty builds you have ran against and how did you deal with it or did you not even stand a chance.

Just out of curiousity, you remember what the loadout on the Daemon Princes were?

beigeknight wrote:Just out of curiousity, you remember what the loadout on the Daemon Princes were?

I know that they atleast had the 3+ armor and wings. As for that it should be based on personal choice. They ran the 4 horseman I believe though to be fluffy lol.

Would just like to say against anything not gunline this list isn't scary. Even then with proper deployment, fire priority, and timely sacrifices, this list should lose at that point level. It has auto losses against GKs with warp quake, and can't catch an eldar or DE army that doesn't want to be caught (fate crusher lists are slow, and the DPs are easy targets if they stray away from the fateweaver buff). It is also humorous how good wyches are against this, due to skarbrands buff, and the reliance on PW attacks to kill (wyches laugh at power weapons with their 4++)

Nastiest list I've faced against? The old nidzilla was pretty nasty to fight against in 4th ed, but other than that I think cookie cutter SWs (with long fang spam and razorsback spam) is the worst to have to fight. You can't safely CC them (marines with counterattack are dangerous, and they have thunderwolves) and they can out shoot many armies, and they have the resiliency that armored lists have.

Genuine sisters immolator spam is the meanest army I ever faced.

9 immolators, 2 rhinos and a chimera. If it hadn't been a badly-written scenario (table quarters where anything can contest, basically impossible for the outcome not to be a draw between 2 mech armies), I definitely would have lost.

A death guard army consting of mainly plague marines a few oblits and 2 land raiders. oh and i forgot to mention abbadon with 10 khorne beserkers. it was a bitch

One of the nastiest armies I've faced (and I've faced quite a few) was in one of my Ard Boyz practice matches against Deathwing. I took my Crowe-purifier-dread list. His army consisted of the following:


Belial - TH/SS

5x Deathwing #1 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #2 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #3 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #4 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #5 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #6 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)

5x Deathwing #7 - 2x LC's, 3x TH/SS, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie, these guys are Elite choices)
5x Deathwing #8 - 2x LC's, 3x TH/SS, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #9 - 2x LC's, 3x TH/SS, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)

Land Speeder Typhoon - Multi-melta
Land Speeder Typhoon - Multi-melta
Land Speeder Typhoon - Multi-melta


It was an especially tough matchup because:

1) I had no AP1/2 shooting except for psycannons.

2) I have problems with foot-lists.

3) I have problems with massed 2+ infantry.

4) I have problems with massed 3++ infantry.

5) He had 24 S8 missile shots to try to take out my 6 rhinos/5 dreads.

6) They're all fearless.


How did I do? Well, you can find out here.

jy2 wrote:One of the nastiest armies I've faced (and I've faced quite a few) was in one of my Ard Boyz practice matches against Deathwing. I took my Crowe-purifier-dread list. His army consisted of the following:


Belial - TH/SS

5x Deathwing #1 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #2 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #3 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #4 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #5 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #6 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)

5x Deathwing #7 - 2x LC's, 3x TH/SS, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie, these guys are Elite choices)
5x Deathwing #8 - 2x LC's, 3x TH/SS, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #9 - 2x LC's, 3x TH/SS, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)

Land Speeder Typhoon - Multi-melta
Land Speeder Typhoon - Multi-melta
Land Speeder Typhoon - Multi-melta


It was an especially tough matchup because:

1) I had no AP1/2 shooting except for psycannons.

2) I have problems with foot-lists.

3) I have problems with massed 2+ infantry.

4) I have problems with massed 3++ infantry.

5) He had 24 S8 missile shots to try to take out my 6 rhinos/5 dreads.

6) They're all fearless.


How did I do? Well, you can find out here.

You got lucky it wasnt a kp mission. I had to face Hulk Smash at the Bugeater GT and he has a similar list. 30 scoring terminators 36 total. It was brutal. Unfortunately my guard could not kill them fast enough and he managed to contest the middle of 3 of objectives for him to when the secondary and tertiatary objectives.

I had a pretty poor sisters list that was all over the place when I was new to the game. The only person I regularly played against was a nid list with 5 carnifexes and two hive tyrants.

Massacres were dajevu for me again and again.

Definatly our resident Imperial Tank Company. He typically reduces any advancing units to pink mist with a salvo of battle cannon fire. No one has beat him yet, and we all consider him a prestigous trophy kill.

Hmm, maybe the 2nd ed SW list where Wolf Guard could get storm shields and assault cannons in termi armor?

I also have memories of this Eldar army where every model threw 2 sustained fire dice ...

Or perhaps the 2nd ed Chaos list full of 3 man infiltrating chaos marine units with 1? 2? heavy weapons each.

The Death Cult Assassin list in the current edition is pretty ugly. A bunch of DCA with a Librarian and a Techmarine is just about invinvible in melee combat, and they come in a Crusader. Fill with psy-assault Razorbacks with 3 man henchman units.

Playing GKs for my first time with my fatecrusher. I was mildly excited to play GKs since the new codex...


From memory, may be wrong.

Crowe
2-3 paladin squads in rhinos with 2 psycannons each +hammer
3-5 strike squads in razorbacks+ psybolt ammo with 1 psycannons each +hammer
3 psybolt rifleman dreads
1 deaht cult assassin squad in razorback with psybolts

Pitched battle, he had first turn. He lined all his strikes on the deployment 12 inch line. With 4 warp quakes he could over the majority of the board. If anything got on, he had enough str 6, 7 , and 8 to wipe it off the board, regardless of rerolls. I stole the initiative so no warp quake. I proceeded to get shot off the board by more str 6 7 and 8 than I can care to remember. Luckily, I have beat GKs the past 4 times I have faced them. But when I saw his list I knew it was an auto lose if I didnt get first turn..or steal.

The meanest army I have faced so far was some dark eldar list very recently. I had never played dark eldar before but I kind of thought I knew what I was getting into.
His list was a bunch of those flying transport things with warriors, incubi, the boss with the combat drugs that lets you roll two and choose the highest, wyches, trueborn, some flying thing with a bunch of darklances and some smaller craft that were putting out 12 poison shots a turn, and all the vehicles had that flicker field thing. I was running orks a big mek kff, three 30 man slugga mobz with pk,bp nob and rokkits, one full grot mob, two 7 man lootas, two squads of lobbas, and two suicide koptas with tl rokkits and buzzsaws. Now I know koptas weren't really a good choice but we were running a friendly event against a bunch of people that day and that was my 1500 pts list for the day. I started out strong with lootas taking out a transport and even lobbas smacking around some of his flimsy craft. I figured my massive mobs could deal with his tiny puny squads and boy was I wrong. I barely made it to turn 4 he wiped out everything I had. I didn't go out without a fight but I honestly couldn't take him on in cc. It was just a massacre. He tabled three other opponents that night so I didn't feel too bad the guy was a nice guy and I still had a good time but man was that a harsh lesson on what dark eldar are capable of.

Well, with my tau, the worst game I've ever had was probably against khorne marines. It was a bloodbath.
With my guard, I haven't played anything too awful... yet... I'm still new to guard though

with my guard there is one army I do poorly against, Space Wolves

Friend ran something like this

Wolf Lord
2x Rune Priest

2x9 Grey hunters Rhino
2x6 grey hunters Razorback

3x TWC

3x Long Fangs 4xMSL

It was in 1500 pts, I just couldnt kill anything. I don't run LRBT often just Vendettas and Chimeras. The str 8 shots murdered me and the TWC just mopped up

jy2 wrote:One of the nastiest armies I've faced (and I've faced quite a few) was in one of my Ard Boyz practice matches against Deathwing. I took my Crowe-purifier-dread list. His army consisted of the following:


Belial - TH/SS

5x Deathwing #1 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #2 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #3 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #4 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #5 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #6 - 2x LC's, 2x TH/SS, 1x Chain Fist, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)

5x Deathwing #7 - 2x LC's, 3x TH/SS, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie, these guys are Elite choices)
5x Deathwing #8 - 2x LC's, 3x TH/SS, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)
5x Deathwing #9 - 2x LC's, 3x TH/SS, 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher (on TH/SS termie)

Land Speeder Typhoon - Multi-melta
Land Speeder Typhoon - Multi-melta
Land Speeder Typhoon - Multi-melta


It was an especially tough matchup because:

1) I had no AP1/2 shooting except for psycannons.

2) I have problems with foot-lists.

3) I have problems with massed 2+ infantry.

4) I have problems with massed 3++ infantry.

5) He had 24 S8 missile shots to try to take out my 6 rhinos/5 dreads.

6) They're all fearless.


How did I do? Well, you can find out here.

It wasn't that nasty in our second game.

The nastiest list I have ever faced happens to be one of jy2's creation. It consist of 3 - 4 Greater Daemon Lords found in FW Apoc 1 and Apoc 2 forming the tetrahedron of darkness. On top of that, chaos temple for +1 invuln and a slew of Daemon minions. Nothing can get more nastier than 4 Gargantuan Creatures with 3++ re-rollable saves. This is all apoc btw.

As for standard games, the nastiest list I've come across is jy2's crowe/purifier list.

Worst is against my missus. Granted, it was my own fault - I made her list. think it was a bit over 2000pt.

she had (roughly)

2xTalos, Ravager, Trueborn w/ 2 DL, 2blaster, blast pistol, 3 Grotesques, 10 Hellions, 6 Reavers, 20 wyches w/blast pistol agoniser hekatrixes, 10 kabalites w/shredder & splinter cannon, 10 kabalites w/dark lance and blaster, 5 incubi, Drazhar and an archon w/shadow field, pw, blast pistol and webway portal. Oh, and 2 raiders with DL.

I had (roughly)

CCS(4pg), Lord Commissar w/PW PP, 2 LRD's w/lascannon MM, 2 Basilisks, 2 vets (3MG, demo, 3PG, grenadier) in chims, 40 man blob (4 PW, 4 flamers) + 5 hvy weapon teams(2xLC, 2xAC, mortar), marbo, and a vendetta.

first turn, both LRD's, a Basilisk and both chims go up in smoke. The remaining 'lisk loses its earthshaker, Reavers take out the CCS. I managed to do no damage whatsoever. It went downhill from there.

Flavius Infernus wrote:Genuine sisters immolator spam is the meanest army I ever faced.

9 immolators, 2 rhinos and a chimera. If it hadn't been a badly-written scenario (table quarters where anything can contest, basically impossible for the outcome not to be a draw between 2 mech armies), I definitely would have lost.

Out of interest, what was the loadout of the immolators?

Meanest army I have ever faced.

I can't remember the points but here is the list


Necron Lord
Warscythe,Res Orb,Destroyer Body

Deciever

Necron Warriors X 10

Necron Warriors X 10

Monolithe

Monolithe

Monolithe




He kept the lord and Warruiors in reserve,and when they finally came on(turn 6),he hid them behind the Monolithes.

Mordoskul wrote:Definatly our resident Imperial Tank Company. He typically reduces any advancing units to pink mist with a salvo of battle cannon fire. No one has beat him yet, and we all consider him a prestigous trophy kill.

What was his list? 9 LRBTs and 3+ vendettas?

I can beat you all.

I was playing guard my friend was playing BA, normally he uses troops as he has not attual tanks so i built a list with very little anti tank.
I only had a Vanqisher 2 lascannon teams and a melta in a storm trooper squad.

he turns up with dreadnought spam, 6 dreads all in drop pods
turn 1 killed off my Lascannon, vanqisher stunned
turn 2 my strom troopers mishapped twice (rerolled to the same position),
turn 3 vanqisher destroyed

Nastiest I've faced is the Autarch/Farseer scatter laser WarWalker spam list...

70+ str6 scatter lasers per turn.

And 4xdire avenger troops and x2 firedragons riding wave serpents...

Ugh... tough list.

Back when I played static tau at the start of 5th, my friend ran a Vulkan army with Chaplin leading a squad of assault Termies. I would kill Vulkan and all his Armor, but the chaplin and the assault termies always made it to me.

This was the meanest because the Chaplin would always refuse negotiations with My Por'o (my Objective Marker i made out of an ethereal ).


Stupid joke is stupid, anyways I can't really say I've faced a crazy nasty army.

Deadshot wrote:Meanest army I have ever faced.
I can't remember the points but here is the list

Necron Lord
Warscythe,Res Orb,Destroyer Body

Deciever

Necron Warriors X 10
Necron Warriors X 10

Monolithe
Monolithe
Monolithe

He kept the lord and Warruiors in reserve,and when they finally came on(turn 6),he hid them behind the Monolithes.

haha! I might try that list, it's a real TFG option.


My hardest:
Small points vs 3X Daemonhosts.
Anything below 1000pt becomes a headache.

severedblue wrote:

Flavius Infernus wrote:Genuine sisters immolator spam is the meanest army I ever faced.

9 immolators, 2 rhinos and a chimera. If it hadn't been a badly-written scenario (table quarters where anything can contest, basically impossible for the outcome not to be a draw between 2 mech armies), I definitely would have lost.

Out of interest, what was the loadout of the immolators?

I don't remember the exact details of this list, but it's a pretty standard type of netlist.

1-2 palatines with bodyguards in immolators
3 units of celestines with max meltaguns in immolators
2 units of sisters with flamer/heavy flamer in rhinos
3 units of the fast attack sisters with meltaguns in immolators
3 units of the heavy support sisters with meltaguns in immolators (or sometimes 3 heavy support immolators plus 3 units of inquisitorial stormtroopers with meltaguns to ride in them)

Immolators always should take heavy flamers. There's never any reason to put anything else on an immolator, because of the 12" move and fire.

Thanks Flavius!

Deadshot wrote:Meanest army I have ever faced.

I can't remember the points but here is the list


Necron Lord
Warscythe,Res Orb,Destroyer Body

Deciever

Necron Warriors X 10

Necron Warriors X 10

Monolithe

Monolithe

Monolithe




He kept the lord and Warruiors in reserve,and when they finally came on(turn 6),he hid them behind the Monolithes.

Kill less than 360 points in a 1500 / 1750 ish slow moving list and you win? Not really that mean.

It is when the only weapon capable of harming the 'liths is 1 demolisher cannon on a vindicator,that was destroyed by a shot to the rear by a monolithe.He circled 2 around one side,1 to the other.

I was expecting to fight ork speed freaks,but the guy never showed.

Deadshot wrote:It is when the only weapon capable of harming the 'liths is 1 demolisher cannon on a vindicator,that was destroyed by a shot to the rear by a monolithe.He circled 2 around one side,1 to the other.

I was expecting to fight ork speed freaks,but the guy never showed.

And this is why tailored list are bad.

The nastiest list I have ever played with my chaos space marines was something like this
old zogwart with 6 mega armoured nob body guards
3x 30 man ork boy squads
1x looter squad
1x deff dread
and a commando squad

My list was
Chaos lord of khorne on bike with daemon weapon plasma pistol melta bombs
Sorceror with warp time and plasma pistol and melta bombs
2x khorne csm squads with flamers and champions power weapons
8xkhorne zerkers with champion who had a power weapon
1x summonded greater daemon
5x chosen with lightening claws
I could not kill the commandos zogwart with mega nobs and loota squad as I couldnt get close enough to charge them