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I'm currently building my grey knights into a large scale apocalypse army and Im curious about the inquisition. Do they use leman russ tanks, and everything the guard has? Do they have Titans?

I'm sure a powerful enough Inquisitor could requisition a Titan for temporary usage.

Leman russ definitely. Titans, maybe...depends on the situation and if said inquisitor had enough power.

If the situation warranted a titan, then the inquisitor would get their titan.

As long as the inquisitor hadn't pissed off the wrong organizationshe should get his Titan.

Im sure the Inquisition uses rhinos and leman russ tanks

Inquisitors generally have access to the any thing they want. Want a whole IG company, it's yours. Want that gun? Here you go! Want a Titan... well, do you have a good reason? Yes? Well then, here you go!

Only thing a Inquisitor can't requisition, I'd imagine, are SMs.

The 40k wiki has this, but I'd like to find the source for it

"If he has good cause, an Inquisitor may demand any service from any Imperial citizen, up to and including the High Lords of Terra."

That is some serious political swag.

I figured the Inquisitor could get just about anything if he needed it. As for Titans, I assumed the Inquisitor would sooner use exterminatous before deploying a Titan.

Titans?
No way. Titans are the exclusive provenance of the Adeptus Mechanicus.

Leman Russes and other battle tanks?
Pretty much a "no".
Chimeras, Rhinos, Razorbacks, and Land Raiders are the things you'll see the Inquisition with mostly.

tilarium wrote:Inquisitors generally have access to the any thing they want. Want a whole IG company, it's yours. Want that gun? Here you go! Want a Titan... well, do you have a good reason? Yes? Well then, here you go!

Only thing a Inquisitor can't requisition, I'd imagine, are SMs.

In theory they can requisition them...
It's mainly a question of "If you ask we will turn up but if you order we might not..."

Kanluwen wrote:Titans?
No way. Titans are the exclusive provenance of the Adeptus Mechanicus.

Leman Russes and other battle tanks?
Pretty much a "no".
Chimeras, Rhinos, Razorbacks, and Land Raiders are the things you'll see the Inquisition with mostly.

"If required, Inquisitors may call on the service and/or resources of any Imperial servant or organisation. Not even a High Lord of Terra may refuse the order of an Inquisitor without good reason. This power extends across the Adeptus Astartes and the Adeptus Mechanicus, however learned Inquisitors show discretion and request the assistance of the Space Marines and attempt not to anger the Adepts of Mars." per Lexicanum.

They would most likely take care not to anger the Adeptus Mechanicus (lest they have a rival inquisitor take interest in why a Titan is needed), but only the Emperor can say no "without good reason." (He might take issue with the Inquisition as an Institution, but tangents are for other places).

As long as The Inquisitor had a good reason he can tell anybody what to do. Joyriding seems like a good reason to me. Who wants to Joyride a Titan?

CpatTom wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Titans?
No way. Titans are the exclusive provenance of the Adeptus Mechanicus.

Leman Russes and other battle tanks?
Pretty much a "no".
Chimeras, Rhinos, Razorbacks, and Land Raiders are the things you'll see the Inquisition with mostly.

"If required, Inquisitors may call on the service and/or resources of any Imperial servant or organisation. Not even a High Lord of Terra may refuse the order of an Inquisitor without good reason. This power extends across the Adeptus Astartes and the Adeptus Mechanicus, however learned Inquisitors show discretion and request the assistance of the Space Marines and attempt not to anger the Adepts of Mars." per Lexicanum.

They would most likely take care not to anger the Adeptus Mechanicus (lest they have a rival inquisitor take interest in why a Titan is needed), but only the Emperor can say no "without good reason." (He might take issue with the Inquisition as an Institution, but tangents are for other places).

Yeah, you're missing the point of that passage.

The Adepts of Mars can say "Oh, sorry we have no Titans in the area to aid you", just like the Astartes can say "Sorry, we're committed elsewhere in the name of the Emperor of Mankind" if they think the Inquisitor in question will not utilize the forces they're trying to requisition appropriately.

As long as The Inquisitor had a good reason he can tell anybody what to do. Joyriding seems like a good reason to me. Who wants to Joyride a Titan?

And any of the institutes outside of the Munitorum can make up any number of reasons to suddenly be desperately needed elsewhere.

Kanluwen wrote:
And any of the institutes outside of the Munitorum can make up any number of reasons to suddenly be desperately needed elsewhere.

"Each and every Inquisitor embodies the whole Inquisition and
wields the power of the entire organisation. The word of an
Inquisitor is absolute and beyond reproach - except by other
Inquisitors"
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1320032_Thorian_Sourcebook.pdf

Do they have access to Titans? Yes. Period. When situation warrants, they get what they need. In battles where a Titan would be appropriate, they could requisition them. Tact is always a virtue, but not a necessity. Seeking to divert an Inquisitor's "request" (even if they are less than asking) could begin the fast process to becoming a heretic.

Kanluwen wrote:

CpatTom wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Titans?
No way. Titans are the exclusive provenance of the Adeptus Mechanicus.

Leman Russes and other battle tanks?
Pretty much a "no".
Chimeras, Rhinos, Razorbacks, and Land Raiders are the things you'll see the Inquisition with mostly.

"If required, Inquisitors may call on the service and/or resources of any Imperial servant or organisation. Not even a High Lord of Terra may refuse the order of an Inquisitor without good reason. This power extends across the Adeptus Astartes and the Adeptus Mechanicus, however learned Inquisitors show discretion and request the assistance of the Space Marines and attempt not to anger the Adepts of Mars." per Lexicanum.

They would most likely take care not to anger the Adeptus Mechanicus (lest they have a rival inquisitor take interest in why a Titan is needed), but only the Emperor can say no "without good reason." (He might take issue with the Inquisition as an Institution, but tangents are for other places).

Yeah, you're missing the point of that passage.

The Adepts of Mars can say "Oh, sorry we have no Titans in the area to aid you", just like the Astartes can say "Sorry, we're committed elsewhere in the name of the Emperor of Mankind" if they think the Inquisitor in question will not utilize the forces they're trying to requisition appropriately.

As long as The Inquisitor had a good reason he can tell anybody what to do. Joyriding seems like a good reason to me. Who wants to Joyride a Titan?

And any of the institutes outside of the Munitorum can make up any number of reasons to suddenly be desperately needed elsewhere.

I'm not to well read about the Inquisition, but I would imagine an high ranking inquisitor could tell and IG or SM force that their mission takes second priority to the inquisitions. I could be wrong but thats the impression I get.

This is the truth of it.
Inquisitors have the power to whatever the hell they like.
They are a self-regulatory body made up of people that don't mind mass murder since in the big picture it takes a lot of mass murder for it to approach mass murder.

Since the Imperium is made up of a lot of seperate organisations the only way to get them to co-operate well is to ask and not order. If you order them to do something you may find that whatever has been ordered can't arrive because unfortunately the asset required has already been sent into the field and sadly communications are down...

It's much easier to ask unless the situation is desperate...
That said if an Inquisitor is requesting an entire titan things have gotten far out of hand.

Inquisitorial Land Raiders, Rhino's, and Chimeras have all been seen.

Theoretically, they could temporarily enlist the services of a Titan though the AdMec is very independent and it'd take a lot of arm-twisting.

If you're going to equate "has access to" with "Inquisitorial", you're barking up the wrong tree.

Things that are seconded to the Inquisition do not equal Inquisitiorial equipment.

There are not Inquisitorial Titans.

Inquisitors can commandeer whatever they damn well please.

Titans of course are in a grey area as they are the property of the Mechanicus which is technically an ally of the Imperium and NOT part of the Imperium itself.

Grey Templar wrote:Inquisitors can commandeer whatever they damn well please.

Which still does not make what they commandeer Inquisitorial property.

On Vraks, Inquisitors commandeered Centaurs to carry themselves and their retinues to the frontline. They draped banners with Inquisitorial sigils over the vehicles, but they were still Death Korps vehicles.

There is not some hidden factory turning out bits and kits for the Cadian 982nd Kasrkin Regiment's Chimeras to be turned into Inquisitorial Stormtrooper rides.

Kanluwen wrote:If you're going to equate "has access to" with "Inquisitorial", you're barking up the wrong tree.

Things that are seconded to the Inquisition do not equal Inquisitiorial equipment.

There are not Inquisitorial Titans.

I don't think anyone was saying the inquisition has their own titans.

but I would imagine that if the situation required the help of a titan, an inquisitor would just have to ask nicely...

As long as its possible for the inquisition to use these things thats good enough for me lol

bombboy1252 wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:If you're going to equate "has access to" with "Inquisitorial", you're barking up the wrong tree.

Things that are seconded to the Inquisition do not equal Inquisitiorial equipment.

There are not Inquisitorial Titans.

I don't think anyone was saying the inquisition has their own titans.

but I would imagine that if the situation required the help of a titan, an inquisitor would just have to ask nicely...

If a situation involving anything that relates to the Inquisition "requiring the help of a Titan", the Adeptus Mechanicus would not commit a Titan simply due to the fact that it could be tainted by contact with the unclean.

Plus, the Inquisition would realize it's far easier to bully the Imperial Navy into tasking an orbiting ship to do a strike or the Imperial Guard to launch a massive artillery barrage.


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l0k1 wrote:As long as its possible for the inquisition to use these things thats good enough for me lol

And here's the problem.

The Inquisition?
They're not going to be "using these things". They are going to be getting the crews with the expertise to use these things as part of the deal.

If Inquisitor Dave needs a Titan and the Adeptus Mechanicus gives in to his demand--that Titan, its crew, and the support staff/transportation to and from the warzone would come all as one package deal and would be deployed as they see fit.

Just like if Inquisitor Dave needed support from a Chapter of the Adeptus Astartes for his own schemes(i.e., not as part of a wider campaign), the Chapter would retain its own command structure and only consult the Inquisitor in regards to what they'd be going after.

The Inquisition uses whatever the it wants. As mentioned before, a wise Inquisitor will use tact and respect when requesting serious aid like SM's or Titans. However, its very likely that a "request" from an Inquisitor will be honored. Why wouldn't you want to help the inquisition? Now your being investigated, and innocence proves nothing.

Ya if an inquisitor doesn't get what he wants, I think he would be suspecting them of heresy...

Since the OP was discussing idea of adding to an army I'm wondering if he meant "model-wise". If that's the case, I'd say that any model belonging to the Imperium armies could be requesitioned by an Inquisitor... provieded he was a lord.

In the fluff it kinda leans toward the idea that "in theory" an inquisitor can call upon any citizen within the Imperium at will but, obviously not everyone will comply and it certainly can not always be enforced.


An Inquisitor is more likely to make allies or hold leverage to bend the forces of the Imperium to serve his needs. Some more extreme than others. Ravenor works with a small team to infiltrate and uncover anti-imperial sects. Tyrus on the other hand will invade systems with armies of followers, announcing his arrival to scatter the guilty off world and blast them as they try to flee.

As far as Titans? I don't think an Inquisitor really has need for one. Perhaps there are a few senarios that could arrise that the Inquisition and the Adeptus Mechanicus would deffinatly be willing to work together. I would see it as an agreement between the two to use a Titan/Titans. But the Inquisitor would be confined to an observitory vehicle or asked out of a mutual respect to behold the veiw from the bridge.

Phiasco II wrote:The Inquisition uses whatever the it wants. As mentioned before, a wise Inquisitor will use tact and respect when requesting serious aid like SM's or Titans. However, its very likely that a "request" from an Inquisitor will be honored.

No, it's actually not.

Why wouldn't you want to help the inquisition?

Because contrary to popular beliefs, the Astartes and Mechanicus are not blind to the failings of the Inquisition. Namely: Inquisitors have their own agendas, which oftentimes do not reflect those of the Imperium at large.

Now you're being investigated, and innocence proves nothing.

"Innocence proves nothing" is really a statement that only applies when dealing with the lure of Daemonic forces and heretics.
It refers to the fact that you can be completely uninvolved with the goings-on at large of an organization tainted by exposure to the Warp, and still be guilty by the mere fact that you've been exposed to that taint too.

I should also add that "investigations" don't happen near as often as you'd think; and for that matter they often tend to reflect badly upon the Inquisition itself for the dirty secrets of the Inquisitor who threw a hissyfit are dragged, sometimes literally in the form of cultists they've gotten into league with or harbored, screaming into the light.

Inquisitors can requisition just about anything including Space Marines (only Grey Knights though). Many of them have close ties with Space Marine Chapters who are willing to provide squads to support the Inquisitor's operations for a temporary period.

Here is the list of Daemonhunters allies:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Daemonhunters_Army_List
And they can use Titans too.

DeffDred wrote:In the fluff it kinda leans toward the idea that "in theory" an inquisitor can call upon any citizen within the Imperium at will but, obviously not everyone will comply and it certainly can not always be enforced.

Sums up the entire thread.

Officially, an Inquisitor's authority is -absolute-. He can requisition anything, from Guard platoons to Marine companies to battleships and titans. Of course, anyone capable of independent thought can choose to decline such an order, from the Magi of the Mechanicus to the Chapter Masters of the Astartes to IG Lieutenant Joe Smith from the 987th Backwater Tunnel Rats. It's just that Lieutenant Smith is way more expendable than an entire Marine Chapter, so the reaction to such insubordination will vary. This does in no way mean that anyone can consider himself safe from the wrath of the Inquisition, of course. Only that in such cases it depends very much on the connections of the Inquisitor in question, the importance of the disloyal force and what the latter's refusal resulted in (for example, the WH Codex lists the loss of an important world as a reason to fight a Marine Chapter who refused to show up).