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Yet another vs debate but this time it is with Supreme commander. Lets say the UEF from the first Sup com has found a special portal in space that leads the UEF from their galaxy to the IOM in their universe/Galaxy. Who would win if these two forces got into a fight? The IOM from warhammer of the UEF from supreme commander in a all out war?

Let me see:

"The United Earth Federation (or UEF) is the faction representing the interests of a united, Earth-based government. The UEF developed from the ashes of the Earth Empire, and now seeks to reunite humanity and restore Earth's control over the galaxy. Their society and military tactics resemble modern society more than the Cybrans or Aeon do. Their acceptance of a variant of slavery and ideology of forced unity lends a darker side to the faction. UEF units are blueish and somewhat blocky in form. The three UEF experimental units are the Fatboy, a mobile factory/fire base, the Mavor, a long range artillery installation, and the Atlantis, a submersible aircraft carrier."

So they have Tau like tech and are on their way to conquer the galaxy. Have some special units like Mechs and Aircraft Carriers etc...

"The Imperium of Man is the galactic empire under which the majority of humanity is united. The founder and ruler of the Imperium is the god-like Emperor, the most powerful human psychic to date. Founding the Imperium ten thousand years ago, he continues, at least nominally, to lead it.

The Imperium is the largest and most powerful political entity in the galaxy, consisting of at least a million worlds, which are dispersed across most of the Milky Way galaxy. Consequently, an Imperial planet might be separated from its closest neighbour by hundreds or thousands of light years. As a stellar empire, the size of the Imperium can not be measured in terms of continuous territory, but only in the number of planetary systems in its control.

Several aliens and forces (the forces of Chaos, Tyranids, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Orks, Tau, Necrons) challenge the supremacy of the Imperium. From within, the Imperium is threatened more insidiously by rebellion, mutation, dangerous psykers, and subversive cults.

Without the protection of the Imperium, mankind would fall prey to the countless perils that threaten it."

and:

"Mankind has always excelled at the art of war, and the Emperor’s armies are spread across the galaxy. The threat or effects of war are never far away, no matter where you go in the Imperium. Mankind seeks to purge the stars of its enemies, and the bloody carnage it wreaks in doing so shows no sign of abating. The Imperium’s military is at once mighty, glorious and terrible.The military forces of the Imperium include:

Imperial Guard - The Imperial Guard is the backbone of the Imperium’s military might. Millions upon millions of well-trained men and women, organised into thousands of regiments, make up the Guard. With Lasgun and bayonet they march upon alien battlefields and garrison vital worlds. They form the Imperium’s first line of defence and they strike the first blow in many Crusades. Its Regiments are drawn in great tithes of manpower from the Imperium’s worlds and each Regiment has a unique character and fighting tradition, from the rigid discipline of the Armageddon Steel Legion to the stealthy brutality of the pale-skinned Stygians and the unflinching bravery of the Vostroyans. Vast conscript armies, elite special forces, massive tank columns and glorious sabre-wielding cavalry can all be found in the Imperial Guard, often fighting alongside one another on Emperor-forsaken worlds they have never heard of. Regiments do not remain on their homeworlds but are raised explicitly to be sent to fight and die light years away from home. And they do die, for the Imperial Guard bear the weight of the Imperium’s wars. It is said that the Emperor knows the name of every soldier that has fallen fighting in His wars—but if that is true, He is the only one who can comprehend just how many Imperial Guardsmen have died in the ten thousand years since the Emperor "ascended" to the Golden Throne. Those who survive the grinding horrors of a lifetime of war are frequently gifted a portion of the very land they fought to conquer as a reward. As with many things in the Imperium, this is a mixed blessing indeed. The Imperial Guard Regiments are raised from the local armies of the Imperium’s worlds as part of a planet’s tithe to the Imperium. These regiments are normally deployed according to the orders of the Adeptus Terra. However, when the High Lords of Terra declare a major military campaign (often referred to as a “Crusade”) they appoint a Warmaster chosen from among high-ranking Imperial Guard officers to command the campaign's regiments. One of the most famous Warmasters, Macharius, was given the title Lord Solar when he became the Imperial Commander of the entire Segmentum Solar. Macharius proved to be the greatest Imperial general since the Horus Heresy when conquered a thousand worlds on the Imperium’s Eastern Fringe and expanded the Imperium to the very edge of the Astronomican’s reach.

Adeptus Astartes - The Adeptus Astartes, better known as the Space Marines, are the elite warriors of the Imperium. They are few in number and regarded with almost mythical awe by most folk, for they are inheritors of traditions founded by the Emperor Himself. The Space Marines are divided into Chapters, each possessing 1,000 Space Marines along with its own support staff and spacefleet. It is said that there are around a thousand such Chapters in the Imperium. A Space Marine is recruited in adolescence from among the most violent cultures of the Imperium. His body is hugely enhanced with new genetically-engineered organs promoting muscle and bone growth to give him immense strength, size and resilience. His mind is similarly enhanced; hypno-doctrination and sleep-learning give him both a fervent belief in the Imperium and the knowledge of weapons and tactics to bring the Emperor’s wrath to the battlefield. Upon completing his augmentation and training (which not all novices survive), he is issued with his wargear, including a suit of Power Armour. This armour is one of the most powerful symbols of Imperial might, depicted in statuary and stained-glass windows in cathedrals all across the Imperium. Equipped with nerve-fibre bundles so it moves in sync with his body, a Space Marine’s armour not only grants him great strength and protection but is a work of art, resplendent in the heraldry of his Chapter. Each Chapter is independent from the Adeptus Terra. While most will eagerly answer the summons of an Imperial Warmaster or a plea for help from somewhere in the Imperium, some Chapters have their own agendas and cannot be relied upon entirely. All, however, serve the Emperor loyally with complete devotion. All Chapters have proud traditions and distinct characteristics that translate into the way they fight. The ferocious Space Wolves, for instance, are more fiercely independent from the Adeptus Terra than most other Chapters and fight on their own terms up close with Chainswords and Bolt Pistols. The Iron Hands, on the other hand, have close ties to the Adeptus Mechanicus and are the masters of siege warfare, arming their warriors with an array of devastating heavy weapons and tanks. Many Chapters are legends, and names such as the Blood Angels, Ultramarines, Dark Angels and Imperial Fists are spoken of with reverent awe among Imperial citizens. A Space Marine Chapter has its own fleet of fast spacecraft and can react far more quickly to a threat than the Imperial Guard or Imperial Navy, making the Adeptus Astartes one of the only forces in the Imperium that can mount a rapid response to a crisis. The Space Marines are extremely few in number compared to the size of the Imperium and few citizens will ever see one in the flesh, but without them the Imperial military and the human race would slide ever faster towards destruction.

Grey Knights - The Space Marines of the Grey Knights Chapter are amongst the most highly specialised of the Adeptus Astartes, designed to specifically defend the Imperium against the threat of Chaos. The Grey Knights are permanently attached to the Ordo Malleus as its Chamber Militant and their leaders are rumoured to serve terms as members of the Inner Conclave of the Inquisition. No ordinary warriors, Grey Knights are chosen from amongst the most fearsome and savage feral cultures, each one an emergent psyker who has undergone arduous tests of faith, strength, endurance and courage that would break all but the strongest. Grey Knights fight in baroque, heavily ornamented suits of armour, carrying mighty sigil-encrusted swords and halberds. These warriors alone can stand before the might of a Greater Daemon with any hope of banishing it back to the Warp. The millennia the Grey Knights have spent in battle against the Forces of Chaos has furnished them with blasphemous knowledge, painstakingly pieced together by the Inquisitors of Ordo Malleus. Each warrior carries a copy of the sacred Liber Daemonica, the holy battle rites of the Chapter, in a Ceramite case on his breastplate, and it is this tome which symbolises a Grey Knight’s most potent weapon: his unshakable faith in the Divine Emperor of Mankind. For above all else, the Emperor protects...

Deathwatch - The Space Marines of the Deathwatch are mysterious figures who battle in black Power Armour, fighting with preternatural skill and dedication against the most terrible of alien creatures or xenos, as they are called in the Imperium. They usually appear without warning and vanish as quickly as they arrived, leaving no trace of themselves or of the creatures they have fought. These are the Imperium’s most highly trained xenos fighters, known simply as the Deathwatch. Forming the Chamber Militant of the Inquisition's Ordo Xenos, the Deathwatch uniquely draws its members from across the many different Space Marine Chapters, all of which have sworn sacred oaths to maintain specially trained xenos fighters and stand ready to deploy them at a moment’s notice when the Inquisition requests their aid. These specialised warriors are drawn together as and when needed by the Ordo to combat alien menaces whenever and wherever it rears its vile head. Rumour has it that Ordo Xenos maintains a number of secret fortresses at the fringes of the Imperium where the Deathwatch keeps a silent and constant vigil, ever watchful for the tell-tale signs of alien encroachment.

Collegia Titanica - The Collegia Titanica is the division of the Adeptus Mechanicus that includes the Legions composed of Titans, the colossal Imperial robotic war machines that are the most powerful engines of war in the Imperium of Man. The Collegia is also more rarely known as the Adeptus Titanicus (a contraction of "Adeptus Mechanicus Collegia Titanica").

Sisters of Battle (Orders Militant of the Adepta Sororitas) - The Adepta Sororitas, also known as the Sisters of Battle, are an all-female division of the Imperial Cult's ecclesiastical organisation known as the Ecclesiarchy or, more formally, as the Adeptus Ministorum. The Sisterhood's Orders Militant serve as the Ecclesiarchy's fighting arm, mercilessly rooting out corruption and heresy within humanity and every organisation of the Adeptus Terra. There is naturally some overlap between the duties of the Sisterhood and the Imperial Inquisition; for this reason, although the Inquisition and the Sisterhood remain entirely separate organisations, the Orders Militant of the Sisterhood also act as the Chamber Militant of the Inquisition's Ordo Hereticus. The Adepta Sororitas and the Sisters of Battle are commonly regarded as the same organisation, but the latter title technically refers only to the Orders Militant of the Adepta Sororitas, the best-known part of the Adepta. The Sisterhood serves as the Ministorum's only official military force because the Decree Passive laid down by the reformist Ecclesiarch Sebastian Thor held that in the wake of the Age of Apostasy of the 36th Millennium, the Ecclesiarchy cannot maintain any men under arms. This was supposed to limit the power of the Ecclesiarchy. However, the Ministorum were able to circumvent this decree by using the all-female force of the Sisterhood.

Imperial Navy - The Imperial Navy holds nearly all of the Imperium’s fighting vessels; local governments, Warmasters and others are forbidden to maintain their own fleets of warships. Their spacecraft include some of the most potent engines of destruction in the whole galaxy, including mighty battleships thousands of years old. The Navy’s ships range from small escorts with a crew of a few dozen to the immense Emperor-class Battleships which might have 20,000 souls or more on board. The Navy also includes fighter and bomber crews and aircraft that support the Imperial Guard on the ground. The Navy’s officer class is highly traditional and aristocratic in character. The Imperium’s noble families frequently boast naval officers among their number and naval dynasties dominate many battlefleets. Elitism is a virtue on most ships, where the officers’ lives are in stark contrast to those of the ratings and engine crews. With thousands of crew living and dying on ships that can spend decades without seeing port, a ship of the Imperial Navy becomes a city in space. Mutinies are not unknown and the Naval security battalions of Armsmen are a familiar sight on the decks of all naval ships, their black visors and shotguns constantly reminding the men that obedience is their duty to the Emperor. The Navy relies on many other organisations to function. Perhaps most importantly, these ancient and complex ships could not function without a complement of Tech-Priests who know how to appease the starships’ Machine Spirits and maintain technology that is too old and mysterious to be replicated. The Navy is also reliant on the Tech-Priests of Mars for refits, upgrades, repairs and new starships. It is usual for a warship to have Astropaths on board, for proper communication is essential if the Imperium is to be defended. Many captains are glad to have Ministorum clergy among their crew, ministering to the spiritual needs of the men and steeling their spirits with sermons. Commissars are appointed to the larger ships, watching over the moral fibre of the crew and providing a watch against mutiny and impiety. Then, of course, there is the Navigator of each vessel, whose family can occupy entire spires jutting out into space atop the ship.

Skitarii, the Legio Cybernetica and squads of Combat Servitors - These are three types of autonomous military ground forces deployed the Adeptus Mechanicus to protect their Forge Worlds and to assist Imperial military campaigns when necessary.

Inquisitorial Storm Troopers - The Inquisition maintains its own own corps of highly-trained special operations forces who are similar to the Imperial Guard's elite Storm Troopers that guard the secret installations of the Inquisition across the galaxy. The Inquisition maintains a number of fortresses throughout the galaxy, both secret and known to the inhabitants of the Imperium. Inquisitorial Storm Troopers are used by the Imperial Inquisition to guard their fortresses and the Black Ships as they make their purity runs across the Imperium's sectors, and they also augment an individual Inquisitor's personal forces with reliable and effective soldiers. Many Storm Troopers of particular skill are chosen to become an Inquisitor's Throne Agents. Inquisitorial Storm Troopers are selected from families with a record of unwavering faith in the Emperor and prior duty to the Inquisition, usually from the Schola Progenium. They are trained and equipped in a manner similar to Imperial Guard Storm Troopers, albeit lacking the rapid insertion and infiltration skills, as they are not expected to undertake such types of missions which are more often carried out for the Inquisition by the Officio Assassinorum."

UED is toasted...

P.S. Imeprium in it's setting in one of the most powerful galactic empires in sci-fi. Rarely anyone could go into full scale war aginst them. Only Galactic Empire from Star Wars could in my opinion.

Imperium would win. They just have such a vast empire, and almost infinite resource to draw on. Sheer weight of numbers an brutality would carry the day for them.

In reply to above, i don't the Galactic Empire could beat them either.

However, I can say one faction that could (bit unfair as they could beat damn near anything though).

The Culture.

The hell is the Supreme commander or a UEF?

Jimsolo wrote:The hell is the Supreme commander or a UEF?

It's 2007 video game: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Commander_(video_game)

Harrower wrote:Imperium would win. They just have such a vast empire, and almost infinite resource to draw on. Sheer weight of numbers an brutality would carry the day for them.

In reply to above, i don't the Galactic Empire could beat them either.

However, I can say one faction that could (bit unfair as they could beat damn near anything though).

The Culture.

What the hell is the Culture?

I would go for Warhammer 40k.

The only thing that could compete with warhammer 40k universe is Goku from dragon ball Z

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture

From Iain M Banks novels.
A civilisation of truly mind boggling tech level.
Sentient ships that fight vast battles so fast they end in microseconds...that kind of technology.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Harrower wrote:Imperium would win. They just have such a vast empire, and almost infinite resource to draw on. Sheer weight of numbers an brutality would carry the day for them.

In reply to above, i don't the Galactic Empire could beat them either.

However, I can say one faction that could (bit unfair as they could beat damn near anything though).

The Culture.

What the hell is the Culture?

This guys here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture But I fail to see how these peaceful people could stand up to the Imperium's military might and psychic powers?

Has anyone that voted "Imperium will win"
actually know anything about Supreme Commander?

Or they chose Imperium because this is warhammer forum?

The lowest weakest grunt mass spammed units in Sup Com is like...

Size of a Nemsis Dread Knight
Armor plating like a Necron Monolith , 100% combat efficiency till the field collapses.
Dual Energy Machine Guns shooting equivalent of 1000 Plasma Cannon shots per minute.

Then it gets larger... and hits harder, where the titans are size of a base.

They expand in speed and efficiency like viruses, whole planet can be taken over within 10 hours PER commander.
Anything with matter can be converted, used, taken over ( its like Agent Smith that can take over Titans and Ships )
Their Jump gate allows them to teleport anywhere and obliterate any Matter that is within the teleport sphere.

If Imperium goes against ONE Commander, Imperium will win for sure no doubt.
But if Imperium goes against the whole faction like Core Vs Arms, Imperium stands zero chance.

LunaHound wrote:Has anyone that voted "Imperium will win"
actually know anything about Supreme Commander?

Or they chose Imperium because this is warhammer forum?

Imperium wins by manpower only. I think that 2'nd post answer it all...

LunaHound wrote:Has anyone that voted "Imperium will win"
actually know anything about Supreme Commander?

Or they chose Imperium because this is warhammer forum?

I played SC to death...still play it now actually!
I just can't seem them taking on the Imperium and winning. They don't have anywhere near the resources to take on an enemy of that size....don't forget the Imperium is typically fighting Wars on thousnads of planets at once, with millions of soldiers involved on most of them.
It's got over a MILLION worlds to draw from. thats just......huge.

Any fraction from supreme commander would just plain crush any fraction in warhammer. The smallest units in supreme command are titan size and they can all be built in field from the commander.

nomotog wrote:Any fraction from supreme commander would just plain crush any fraction in warhammer. The smallest units in supreme command are titan size and they can all be built in field from the commander.

Which would be fine...if the imperium didn't have their own titans, as well as armaments meant to take down titans.

The billions of soldiers tend to help.

nomotog wrote:Any fraction from supreme commander would just plain crush any fraction in warhammer. The smallest units in supreme command are titan size and they can all be built in field from the commander.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

nomotog wrote:Any fraction from supreme commander would just plain crush any fraction in warhammer. The smallest units in supreme command are titan size and they can all be built in field from the commander.

Which would be fine...if the imperium didn't have their own titans, as well as armaments meant to take down titans.

The billions of soldiers tend to help.

How to beat up Warhammer Titans:

We can...
1) Jump Gate into the Titan's control center ( the effect is like a wraith cannon, it tears a hole in vicinity, but the hole depends on whats been Jumped in )
needless to say thats one dead Titan.
2) Jump something smaller in and land in a less vital area where it won't destroy the titan the moment it lands. Convert the titan over to be used.
3) Anti Titan artillery, 1 round per second, each shell is a nuke. Use it to blow up mountains, millions of IG with flashlights, or Titans.
4) Send in UEF / Core / Arms version of Titans. All ( in warhammer stats ) AV 14 with Monolith rules, and cannot be crippled/shaken/ weapon arms legs head etc etc destroyed.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

nomotog wrote:Any fraction from supreme commander would just plain crush any fraction in warhammer. The smallest units in supreme command are titan size and they can all be built in field from the commander.

Which would be fine...if the imperium didn't have their own titans, as well as armaments meant to take down titans.

The billions of soldiers tend to help.

No there base unit is titan sized. They get bigger, much much bigger. They also are build in battle. They warp in a commander and they could build an army cable of taking all the IoM.

LunaHound wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

nomotog wrote:Any fraction from supreme commander would just plain crush any fraction in warhammer. The smallest units in supreme command are titan size and they can all be built in field from the commander.

Which would be fine...if the imperium didn't have their own titans, as well as armaments meant to take down titans.

The billions of soldiers tend to help.

How to take over Warhammer Titans:

We can...
1) Jump Gate into the Titan's control center ( the effect is like a wraith cannon, it tears a hole in vicinity, but the hole depends on whats been Jumped in )
needless to say thats one dead Titan.
2) Jump something smaller in and land in a less vital area where it won't destroy the titan the moment it lands. Convert the titan over to be used.
3) Anti Titan artillery, 1 round per second, each shell is a nuke. Use it to blow up mountains, millions of IG with flashlights, or Titans.

Exterminatus -

your artillery

As a huge 40k and SupCom fan, I must say Supreme Commander with zero doubt in my mind.

In Supreme Commander, a lone Armored Command Unit on an uninhabited planet can raise a force greater in power than multiple titan legions in HOURS. Once an ACU has set up his resource harvesting capabilities, he can churn out an assault walking that is FOUR TIMES TALLER than an IMPERATOR TITAN in a matter of SECONDS.

The Dies Irae, most infamous of chaos titans that besieged the Imperial Palace, was 43 meters tall. The tallest record of a Titan's height is seen in the Imperator titan's Apocalypse datasheet is under 60 meters.

The largest experimental walker of the Seraphim faction is 166 meters tall.

A standard Siege Assault Bot is 23m-38m tall. These such bots are fielded in dozens to hundreds in standard engagements in Supreme Commander, and each bot can be fabricated in less than a second at full capacity.

A Warhound Titan, revered God-Machine of the Adeptus Mechanicus, priceless artifact that takes many years to fabricate even a single one of, whose loss is a devastating blow to its Legio, is 14 meters tall.


Supreme Commander ACUs have the ability to fabricate armies from nothing, given virtually any resource. They can turn energy into matter, and generate energy indefinitely with a variety of power generation sources.

An ACU on a completely barren world devoid of resources could still set up a base of any size given time.

An ACU is essentially a construct the size of the largest Imperial Titan, with an entire Standard Template Construct (STC) system built in by default.


The Imperium could never defeat any faction that possessed an STC. Supreme Commander's ACUs are STCs.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Exterminatus -

your artillery

It'll be shot down. Hope you brought enough ammo :3

*edit, what ph34r said.

I didn't know they were THAT big lol , i was comparing the size to the blown up trucks xD

ph34r wrote:As a huge 40k and SupCom fan, I must say Supreme Commander with zero doubt in my mind.

In Supreme Commander, a lone Armored Command Unit on an uninhabited planet can raise a force greater in power than multiple titan legions in HOURS. Once an ACU has set up his resource harvesting capabilities, he can churn out an assault walking that is FOUR TIMES TALLER than an IMPERATOR TITAN in a matter of SECONDS.

The Dies Irae, most infamous of chaos titans that besieged the Imperial Palace, was 43 meters tall. The tallest record of a Titan's height is seen in the Imperator titan's Apocalypse datasheet is under 60 meters.

The largest experimental walker of the Seraphim faction is 166 meters tall.

A standard Siege Assault Bot is 23m-38m tall. These such bots are fielded in dozens to hundreds in standard engagements in Supreme Commander, and each bot can be fabricated in less than a second at full capacity.

A Warhound Titan, revered God-Machine of the Adeptus Mechanicus, priceless artifact that takes many years to fabricate even a single one of, whose loss is a devastating blow to its Legio, is 14 meters tall.


Supreme Commander ACUs have the ability to fabricate armies from nothing, given virtually any resource. They can turn energy into matter, and generate energy indefinitely with a variety of power generation sources.

An ACU on a completely barren world devoid of resources could still set up a base of any size given time.

An ACU is essentially a construct the size of the largest Imperial Titan, with an entire Standard Template Construct (STC) system built in by default.

The Imperium could never defeat any faction that possessed an STC. Supreme Commander's ACUs are STCs.

You are forgetting 2 most important things: Adeptus Astartes and Psykers.

ph34r wrote:As a huge 40k and SupCom fan, I must say Supreme Commander with zero doubt in my mind.

In Supreme Commander, a lone Armored Command Unit on an uninhabited planet can raise a force greater in power than multiple titan legions in HOURS. Once an ACU has set up his resource harvesting capabilities, he can churn out an assault walking that is FOUR TIMES TALLER than an IMPERATOR TITAN in a matter of SECONDS.

The Dies Irae, most infamous of chaos titans that besieged the Imperial Palace, was 43 meters tall. The tallest record of a Titan's height is seen in the Imperator titan's Apocalypse datasheet is under 60 meters.

The largest experimental walker of the Seraphim faction is 166 meters tall.

A standard Siege Assault Bot is 23m-38m tall. These such bots are fielded in dozens to hundreds in standard engagements in Supreme Commander, and each bot can be fabricated in less than a second at full capacity.

A Warhound Titan, revered God-Machine of the Adeptus Mechanicus, priceless artifact that takes many years to fabricate even a single one of, whose loss is a devastating blow to its Legio, is 14 meters tall.


Supreme Commander ACUs have the ability to fabricate armies from nothing, given virtually any resource. They can turn energy into matter, and generate energy indefinitely with a variety of power generation sources.

An ACU on a completely barren world devoid of resources could still set up a base of any size given time.

An ACU is essentially a construct the size of the largest Imperial Titan, with an entire Standard Template Construct (STC) system built in by default.


The Imperium could never defeat any faction that possessed an STC. Supreme Commander's ACUs are STCs.

Only 14m? That's small for a titan.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Only 14m? That's small for a titan.

14 meters is how tall a Warhound Titan is. The weakest, smallest assault bot of the Cybran faction of Supcom is 18 meters.

Brother Coa wrote:

ph34r wrote:As a huge 40k and SupCom fan, I must say Supreme Commander with zero doubt in my mind.

In Supreme Commander, a lone Armored Command Unit on an uninhabited planet can raise a force greater in power than multiple titan legions in HOURS. Once an ACU has set up his resource harvesting capabilities, he can churn out an assault walking that is FOUR TIMES TALLER than an IMPERATOR TITAN in a matter of SECONDS.

The Dies Irae, most infamous of chaos titans that besieged the Imperial Palace, was 43 meters tall. The tallest record of a Titan's height is seen in the Imperator titan's Apocalypse datasheet is under 60 meters.

The largest experimental walker of the Seraphim faction is 166 meters tall.

A standard Siege Assault Bot is 23m-38m tall. These such bots are fielded in dozens to hundreds in standard engagements in Supreme Commander, and each bot can be fabricated in less than a second at full capacity.

A Warhound Titan, revered God-Machine of the Adeptus Mechanicus, priceless artifact that takes many years to fabricate even a single one of, whose loss is a devastating blow to its Legio, is 14 meters tall.


Supreme Commander ACUs have the ability to fabricate armies from nothing, given virtually any resource. They can turn energy into matter, and generate energy indefinitely with a variety of power generation sources.

An ACU on a completely barren world devoid of resources could still set up a base of any size given time.

An ACU is essentially a construct the size of the largest Imperial Titan, with an entire Standard Template Construct (STC) system built in by default.

The Imperium could never defeat any faction that possessed an STC. Supreme Commander's ACUs are STCs.

You are forgetting 2 most important things: Adeptus Astartes and Psykers.

And demons, and Eldar, and Necrons and orks and Tau...the title said Wh40k, not just imperium.


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ph34r wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Only 14m? That's small for a titan.

14 meters is how tall a Warhound Titan is. The weakest, smallest assault bot of the Cybran faction of Supcom is 18 meters.

What is it armed with?
Size doesn't necessaily correspond to deadliness.

Ummm Commander gets assassinated Imperium has 4 to pick from. Even if you have "better" units the Imperium has so much more infantry/tanks/ships than you. Plus Psykers mind control anyone?

P.S. Yes I have played supreme commander It is a good game but there way too out numbered

Brother Coa wrote:You are forgetting 2 most important things: Adeptus Astartes and Psykers.

Adeptus Astartes would be 100% useless against a SupCom faction.

Psykers are literally the only edge that the Imperium has over an Armored Command Unit.

Mundane warfare-wise, the Imperium is usually considered the pinnacle of inefficiency, supported by the remnants of their grand old STC system.

The Cybran, UEF, Aeon, or Seraphim possess full STC capabilities.

Brother Coa wrote:You are forgetting 2 most important things: Adeptus Astartes and Psykers.

...... Psykers cant even get through the field every SupCom unit has.
Space Marines? what can they do?
The weakest UEF grunt gets pumped out 1 unit per second per factory, and they can make as many factory as they please
as long as the planet has Matters left.
As mentioned, the grunt is like a monolith that fires plasma cannons.
The weakest unit can take out 100 Astartes with no problem, and probably reclaim the dead marine's matters into building 20 more grunts.

FlammingGaunt wrote:Ummm Commander gets assassinated Imperium has 4 to pick from. Even if you have "better" units the Imperium has so much more infantry/tanks/ships than you. Plus Psykers mind control anyone?

P.S. Yes I have played supreme commander It is a good game but there way too out numbered

How do you "assassinate" a Warlord titan that has a full STC and can teleport between planets?


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CthuluIsSpy wrote:What is it armed with?
Size doesn't necessaily correspond to deadliness.

Weapons capable of destroying other such behemoths of units. Rapid fire weaponry greater in power to titan mega-lasers.


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FlammingGaunt wrote:P.S. Yes I have played supreme commander It is a good game but there way too out numbered

On the contrary, within hours any Imperial force would find itself outnumbered.

In the time it takes the Imperium to wage war, the Supreme Commander could easily construct a SubCommander and teleport away. The SubCommander would be capable of producing units at a pace that would far outstrip any Imperial reinforcements, which are known to takes weeks to months to cross the void.

Aeon have there version of pyskers. They can performer mind control through cominks.

LunaHound wrote:
...... Psykers cant even get through the field every SupCom unit has.

They can blow up ships - with their mind.

Space Marines? what can they do?
The weakest UEF grunt gets pumped out 1 unit per second per factory, and they can make as many factory as they please
as long as the planet has Matters left.
As mentioned, the grunt is like a monolith that fires plasma cannons.
The weakest unit can take out 100 Astartes with no problem, and probably reclaim the dead marine's matters into building 20 more grunts.

So? Astartes just tear them apart in cc... and SC is not that much powerful.


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ph34r wrote:
Psykers are literally the only edge that the Imperium has over an Armored Command Unit.

Mundane warfare-wise, the Imperium is usually considered the pinnacle of inefficiency, supported by the remnants of their grand old STC system.

The Cybran, UEF, Aeon, or Seraphim possess full STC capabilities.

I forgotten, this is also SCagainst 40k....
What has these SC faction have against C'Tan or Chaos Daemons?
And also against Ork and Tyranid numbers...? And we can always call upon the Chaos Gods themselves...