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LunaHound wrote:How much have dakka devolve within the time i was banned?

I got banned for using the word fanboy while everyone uses it just the same and ok?

Wow just wow...

@2random

Again you have ignored all the points against you. But thats alright thats what gave you an "edge" to the debate. You basically flatout compare
40k to SC with wrong SC info.
First of all, the Jump Gate is not the same as teleporter. Jump Gate is like creating a GIANT black hole to transport everything through and it stays open hence *cough a GATE.
Teleporter is different, it just sents the subject + area around the subject from A to B, and its done.

2 ship you claimed to be 20km, alright let me ask you this. Whats the most vital part of a ship? any ship , any size?
The control bridge. Take that over , destroy it, etc etc, and its done. And SC have no trouble whats so ever doing that.

Claiming a 20km large ship will not to be worried about a SC is like boasting you don't fear a 3mm bullet going into your br ain.

See? logic.

1. You just described a WARP GATE too.

2. It doesn't matter. At ALL. These ships are hundreds on times bigger than the absolute biggest thing SC can produce. They wouldn't be ABLE TO damage the bridge. Especially considering that the thickest armour and voids are on the bottom of the ship, the side you'd in theory be shooting if your things can actually even hit space targets (prolly can't) and the bridge is on the top.

Plus, 0.00000001 seconds to fire a lance and obliterate ACU.

im2randomghgh wrote:1. You just described a WARP GATE too.

2. It doesn't matter. At ALL. These ships are hundreds on times bigger than the absolute biggest thing SC can produce. They wouldn't be ABLE TO damage the bridge. Especially considering that the thickest armour and voids are on the bottom of the ship, the side you'd in theory be shooting if your things can actually even hit space targets (prolly can't) and the bridge is on the top.

Plus, 0.00000001 seconds to fire a lance and obliterate ACU.

1. Right. If only the Imperium had the technology to create Warp Gates in their enemies, they would probably be much better shape.

2. Hahahahahahahahahaha man you are so wrong, and watching you be so wrong makes me laugh. Guess what happens when a giant robot teleports into your bridge?

The fact that you "conveniently forget" that SupCom can make ships just adds another notch to your track record of completely ignoring things that make you wrong. You should be a Fox News reporter!

Also clearly you have not read anything from BFG (I own the original rulebooks) or you would know that lance batteries are massive weaponry that takes time to target and fire.

And you 100% ignored the whole SupCom anti-space auto-win contingency that I posted, but then again, having to argue against that would be impossible for you! Keep on truckin' champ!

ph34r wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:1. You just described a WARP GATE too.

2. It doesn't matter. At ALL. These ships are hundreds on times bigger than the absolute biggest thing SC can produce. They wouldn't be ABLE TO damage the bridge. Especially considering that the thickest armour and voids are on the bottom of the ship, the side you'd in theory be shooting if your things can actually even hit space targets (prolly can't) and the bridge is on the top.

Plus, 0.00000001 seconds to fire a lance and obliterate ACU.

1. Right. If only the Imperium had the technology to create Warp Gates in their enemies, they would probably be much better shape.

2. Hahahahahahahahahaha man you are so wrong, and watching you be so wrong makes me laugh. Guess what happens when a giant robot teleports into your bridge?

The fact that you "conveniently forget" that SupCom can make ships just adds another notch to your track record of completely ignoring things that make you wrong. You should be a Fox News reporter!

Also clearly you have not read anything from BFG (I own the original rulebooks) or you would know that lance batteries are massive weaponry that takes time to target and fire.

And you 100% ignored the whole SupCom anti-space auto-win contingency that I posted, but then again, having to argue against that would be impossible for you! Keep on truckin' champ!

1. They can create a warp gate in front of them whenever they want. They just don't except for travel due to not wanting to have their souls eaten. And guess what happens to the giant robot when it tries to and get owned by the shields?

2. I forget nothing. I remember, however, how vastly inferior said craft were.

And they take time to reload, not to fire. Their not going into battle with uncharged lances. Just as one wouldn't go into battle with an unloaded gun. And with their full broadside on such a small target, they wouldn't have to aim. They could shatter continents.

Yeah, your reason was: WE CAN JUSSSS KEEEEEP MAKIN DE ROBOTZZZERS! But it doesn't matter if your ACU dies.

im2randomghgh wrote:1. They can create a warp gate in front of them whenever they want. They just don't except for travel due to not wanting to have their souls eaten. And guess what happens to the giant robot when it tries to and get owned by the shields?

2. I forget nothing. I remember, however, how vastly inferior said craft were.

And they take time to reload, not to fire. Their not going into battle with uncharged lances. Just as one wouldn't go into battle with an unloaded gun. And with their full broadside on such a small target, they wouldn't have to aim. They could shatter continents.

Yeah, your reason was: WE CAN JUSSSS KEEEEEP MAKIN DE ROBOTZZZERS! But it doesn't matter if your ACU dies.

1. The Imperium does not have weaponized warp gates. They cannot use warp gates to destroy their enemies. The SupComs do. The SupComs can teleport a block of metal into the middle of your army and cause terrible destruction. The SupComs can teleport a giant robot into your ship if your shields are down.
The SupComs can make a giant spaceship just as easily as they can make a giant robot, they just need the appropriately larger amount of resources.

Guess what? When a ship comes out of the warp, its void shields are down and its geller fields are on.
That leaves you with two options.

1. Come in close to the planet, hoping to incant the litanies of targeting, powering, and firing to destroy the SupCom that you HOPE is still there (It probably will not be) before it uses its 5 second teleport to escape forever, and risk having a block of metal teleported into your command bridge.
2. Come in far from the planet, weapons targeted and ready, shields up against teleporters, and the SupCom (again, if it is still there, it probably is not) escapes and you hope you are able to destroy his ground army under the management of one of his SubCommanders or engineering core.

And either way, your fleet of ships took at minimum weeks to months to get to the ACU.
Guess what an ACU can do in weeks to months?
They can do exactly what the Tyranids would do to your planet, except instead of stripping the biosphere and turning it into hungry alien bugs, they can strip the WHOLE THING and turn it into an entire fleet of starships. And they will have undoubtably teleported SubCommanders and other engineering forces to dozens, if not hundreds of other planets during these weeks to months.

ph34r, this cause seems utterly lost. im2randomghgh already proved his dogmatism at an almost religious level.

I came into this knowing next to nothing about SupCom and it seems pretty clear the 40k universe is outgunned. He consistently ignores points and pulls "evidence" out of nowhere. His basic knowledge of the 40k universe is lacking and clings to the weakest arguments it hurts. It literally boils down to "MAGIC!!!!".

I don't think I've ever seen a level of stubborn ignorance since a Fox news reporter.

Besides, if Chaos cared so much about the future of humanity (being "food" and all) the Tyranids would be looong gone.

im2randomghgh wrote:But it doesn't matter if your ACU dies.

For the 3rd time i have told you, and you seem to forget or ignore ( take your pick )

You do know ACU can be produced as often and as many times as they "FEEL LIKE IT" ?

Incase you still havnt get it through your head for the 4th time.

ACU are NOT like Primarch or LEADER. They are basically 40k equivalent of Tomb Spiders and Tervigon.

Accept the fact for gods sake LoL.

Your ship will also be boarded or teleborted before they get to use their lance.

So, is it now safe to declare SupCom victory?

ph34r wrote:So, is it now safe to declare SupCom victory?

Nope

the C'tan would swing the battle, them and psykers, no mortal army could stop these SC's, but they just have nothing that can stop thier minds being taken over, or thier planets thrown around like ping pong balls by the c'tan and psykers

these machines, are they crewed?

if so, where do the crew come from?

if not, the void dragon will take them over along with all thier tech, and use it against them
(if you think C'tan are overpowered, i agree, but they are gods, after all)

that should just about conclude it for all but die hards...

ph34r wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:1. They can create a warp gate in front of them whenever they want. They just don't except for travel due to not wanting to have their souls eaten. And guess what happens to the giant robot when it tries to and get owned by the shields?

2. I forget nothing. I remember, however, how vastly inferior said craft were.

And they take time to reload, not to fire. Their not going into battle with uncharged lances. Just as one wouldn't go into battle with an unloaded gun. And with their full broadside on such a small target, they wouldn't have to aim. They could shatter continents.

Yeah, your reason was: WE CAN JUSSSS KEEEEEP MAKIN DE ROBOTZZZERS! But it doesn't matter if your ACU dies.

1. The Imperium does not have weaponized warp gates. They cannot use warp gates to destroy their enemies. The SupComs do. The SupComs can teleport a block of metal into the middle of your army and cause terrible destruction. The SupComs can teleport a giant robot into your ship if your shields are down.
The SupComs can make a giant spaceship just as easily as they can make a giant robot, they just need the appropriately larger amount of resources.

Guess what? When a ship comes out of the warp, its void shields are down and its geller fields are on.
That leaves you with two options.

1. Come in close to the planet, hoping to incant the litanies of targeting, powering, and firing to destroy the SupCom that you HOPE is still there (It probably will not be) before it uses its 5 second teleport to escape forever, and risk having a block of metal teleported into your command bridge.
2. Come in far from the planet, weapons targeted and ready, shields up against teleporters, and the SupCom (again, if it is still there, it probably is not) escapes and you hope you are able to destroy his ground army under the management of one of his SubCommanders or engineering core.

And either way, your fleet of ships took at minimum weeks to months to get to the ACU.
Guess what an ACU can do in weeks to months?
They can do exactly what the Tyranids would do to your planet, except instead of stripping the biosphere and turning it into hungry alien bugs, they can strip the WHOLE THING and turn it into an entire fleet of starships. And they will have undoubtably teleported SubCommanders and other engineering forces to dozens, if not hundreds of other planets during these weeks to months.

They don`t use them as weapons. Doesn`t mean they can`t. They tear open a hole in reality, if they position themselves accordingly, they could force you into the warp. And you can`t teleport something past voids.

Except they have never demonstrated especially powerful ship tech ever. There`s that.

5 seconds to teleport a few km, 3hrs to teleport inter-world, to a world whose co-ordinates they already know. No risk. Shields.

exterminatus. Plus, they wouldn`t need to because of 1

Then the Imperials can just park their ships in orbit around their planets that the supcom couldn`t teleport to anyways without knowing their stellar co-ordinates, and bomb the fethers out of existence.



U don't have to disable your void banks while the gellar field is active, not sure where exactly you got that from. Your head maybe.

Where the bloody *********** did you BS those things from ?

I have yet to see you debate vs SC using correct info.

WOW

ph34r wrote:So, is it now safe to declare SupCom victory?

(looks at the poll) Hmm... I think not.

psykers would control the crew of the machines and use them against the commanders

the void dragon would take over the rest of thier tech.

victory for 40k, but those diehards are, well, diehards...

Indeed. Basically, blow the ACU to hell --> units become what Tyranids are without the Hive Mind. Every army with either supreme numbers and/or elite units can do that. Especially nids. ACUs will drown under their numbers.

lukyboi wrote:psykers would control the crew of the machines and use them against the commanders

the void dragon would take over the rest of thier tech.

victory for 40k, but those diehards are, well, diehards...

Dude...the machines don't have crew. they're totally automated.
Now, mind controlling the Commander is more likely. How, I don't know.


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Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:Indeed. Basically, blow the ACU to hell --> units become what Tyranids are without the Hive Mind. Every army with either supreme numbers and/or elite units can do that. Especially nids. ACUs will drown under their numbers.

Now how the hell are you going to fight a killer robot twice the size of a titan, who has a bodyguard of titans?

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Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:Indeed. Basically, blow the ACU to hell --> units become what Tyranids are without the Hive Mind. Every army with either supreme numbers and/or elite units can do that. Especially nids. ACUs will drown under their numbers.

Now how the hell are you going to fight a killer robot twice the size of a titan, who has a bodyguard of titans?

The same way you do it in any game with nukes: spam nukes.

LunaHound wrote:Where the bloody *********** did you BS those things from ?

I have yet to see you debate vs SC using correct info.

WOW

Except that none of it was and you fail to identify any specific piece of info.

So, there's that

im2randomghgh wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Where the bloody *********** did you BS those things from ?

I have yet to see you debate vs SC using correct info.

WOW

Except that none of it was and you fail to identify any specific piece of info.

So, there's that

Originally there was a point in this debate, which was why i participated. Originally it was 2 sides presenting FACTS, then we see how it goes from that.

But, if this "debate" turns into nothing but me playing "catch the false info you are making up in 70% of your arguments" then its not a debate anymore, but a waste of time.

LunaHound wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Where the bloody *********** did you BS those things from ?

I have yet to see you debate vs SC using correct info.

WOW

Except that none of it was and you fail to identify any specific piece of info.

So, there's that

Originally there was a point in this debate, which was why i participated. Originally it was 2 sides presenting FACTS, then we see how it goes from that.

But, if this "debate" turns into nothing but me playing "catch the false info you are making up in 70% of your arguments" then its not a debate anymore, but a waste of time.

Again, you have yet to point out a single mistake, which leads me to believe you simply have no way to counter my argument.

im2randomghgh wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Where the bloody *********** did you BS those things from ?

I have yet to see you debate vs SC using correct info.

WOW

Except that none of it was and you fail to identify any specific piece of info.

So, there's that

Originally there was a point in this debate, which was why i participated. Originally it was 2 sides presenting FACTS, then we see how it goes from that.

But, if this "debate" turns into nothing but me playing "catch the false info you are making up in 70% of your arguments" then its not a debate anymore, but a waste of time.

Again, you have yet to point out a single mistake, which leads me to believe you simply have no way to counter my argument.

Throughout 10+ pages me and ph34r have. You ignored them. This debate is nothing then you plugging your ears while going l"alalalalalla 40k is best"

lalalalalala being the most the worst kind of debating. I think we are done here.

nomotog wrote:lalalalalala being the most the worst kind of debating. I think we are done here.

lalala isnt even a debate anymore. Its best used in court cases like Casey Anthonys.

ph34r wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:Warhammer 40k for the win

Just in case you didn't realize, "40k for the win" is not an argument. It actually just makes you look like a fanboy which undermines your position as a credible source of debate.

No. there is no "credible source of debate" here, it is so simple in fact.
40k wins because the Emperor protects.

/thread

LunaHound wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Where the bloody *********** did you BS those things from ?

I have yet to see you debate vs SC using correct info.

WOW

Except that none of it was and you fail to identify any specific piece of info.

So, there's that

Originally there was a point in this debate, which was why i participated. Originally it was 2 sides presenting FACTS, then we see how it goes from that.

But, if this "debate" turns into nothing but me playing "catch the false info you are making up in 70% of your arguments" then its not a debate anymore, but a waste of time.

Again, you have yet to point out a single mistake, which leads me to believe you simply have no way to counter my argument.

Throughout 10+ pages me and ph34r have. You ignored them. This debate is nothing then you plugging your ears while going l"alalalalalla 40k is best"

Literally every single point you have made throughout all of those 10+ pages has been squarely refuted, with you having absolutely NO answers.

Ya keep telling yourselves that.
Not gonna debate with people that plugs their ears, BAI BAI

LunaHound wrote:Ya keep telling yourselves that.
Not gonna debate with people that plugs their ears, BAI BAI

That's exactly what you're doing RIGHT NOW.

Nope, the debating was long over when you stopped taking in SC facts long ago.

Now im just leaving this train wreck. Like i said,
"this isnt even a debate anymore"

So, not participating.
But, if it makes you feel better to have the last post, go for it.
You are welcomed to.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

lukyboi wrote:psykers would control the crew of the machines and use them against the commanders

the void dragon would take over the rest of thier tech.

victory for 40k, but those diehards are, well, diehards...

Dude...the machines don't have crew. they're totally automated.
Now, mind controlling the Commander is more likely. How, I don't know.


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Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:Indeed. Basically, blow the ACU to hell --> units become what Tyranids are without the Hive Mind. Every army with either supreme numbers and/or elite units can do that. Especially nids. ACUs will drown under their numbers.

Now how the hell are you going to fight a killer robot twice the size of a titan, who has a bodyguard of titans?

Depends on what titan you are talking about. The ingame ACU seems to be about 60-80 meters high, compared to trees. Emperor titans can be over 300m high.

1.Astropaths screw up their signals, so they lose control of the units.
2.Psykers blow the pilot's head off/mind control him to destroy his own units.
3.Imperial Navy destroys the remaining units who operate now without a leader.

or just

1.Orbital bombardment


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ph34r wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:1. They can create a warp gate in front of them whenever they want. They just don't except for travel due to not wanting to have their souls eaten. And guess what happens to the giant robot when it tries to and get owned by the shields?

2. I forget nothing. I remember, however, how vastly inferior said craft were.

And they take time to reload, not to fire. Their not going into battle with uncharged lances. Just as one wouldn't go into battle with an unloaded gun. And with their full broadside on such a small target, they wouldn't have to aim. They could shatter continents.

Yeah, your reason was: WE CAN JUSSSS KEEEEEP MAKIN DE ROBOTZZZERS! But it doesn't matter if your ACU dies.

1. The Imperium does not have weaponized warp gates. They cannot use warp gates to destroy their enemies. The SupComs do. The SupComs can teleport a block of metal into the middle of your army and cause terrible destruction. The SupComs can teleport a giant robot into your ship if your shields are down.

Vortex missiles, vortex grenades and warheads would like to have a word with you.

The SupComs can make a giant spaceship just as easily as they can make a giant robot, they just need the appropriately larger amount of resources.

Guess what? When a ship comes out of the warp, its void shields are down and its geller fields are on.
That leaves you with two options.

1. Come in close to the planet, hoping to incant the litanies of targeting, powering, and firing to destroy the SupCom that you HOPE is still there (It probably will not be) before it uses its 5 second teleport to escape forever, and risk having a block of metal teleported into your command bridge.
2. Come in far from the planet, weapons targeted and ready, shields up against teleporters, and the SupCom (again, if it is still there, it probably is not) escapes and you hope you are able to destroy his ground army under the management of one of his SubCommanders or engineering core.
3. Destroy the commander the moment it teleports into a well-defended planet. UEF is weak. Cybrans are guorilla-cowards. Aoen Illuminate are weed smoking hippies who want to convert everyone. Kinda like the Tau. Now, who would the attacker be? Hmm?

And either way, your fleet of ships took at minimum weeks to months to get to the ACU.
Guess what an ACU can do in weeks to months?
They can do exactly what the Tyranids would do to your planet, except instead of stripping the biosphere and turning it into hungry alien bugs, they can strip the WHOLE THING and turn it into an entire fleet of starships. And they will have undoubtably teleported SubCommanders and other engineering forces to dozens, if not hundreds of other planets during these weeks to months.

Then why did the UEF lose in the first place if they could do that?

Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

lukyboi wrote:psykers would control the crew of the machines and use them against the commanders

the void dragon would take over the rest of thier tech.

victory for 40k, but those diehards are, well, diehards...

Dude...the machines don't have crew. they're totally automated.
Now, mind controlling the Commander is more likely. How, I don't know.


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Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:Indeed. Basically, blow the ACU to hell --> units become what Tyranids are without the Hive Mind. Every army with either supreme numbers and/or elite units can do that. Especially nids. ACUs will drown under their numbers.

Now how the hell are you going to fight a killer robot twice the size of a titan, who has a bodyguard of titans?

Depends on what titan you are talking about. The ingame ACU seems to be about 60-80 meters high, compared to trees. Emperor titans can be over 300m high.

1.Astropaths screw up their signals, so they lose control of the units.
2.Psykers blow the pilot's head off/mind control him to destroy his own units.
3.Imperial Navy destroys the remaining units who operate now without a leader.

or just

1.Orbital bombardment

1.) I don't think they would be able to do that. It may operate on a wireless transmission form that isn't based on waves, but even if it did, don't you think it would have an encryption like AEP so it would take more than 1,000,000 years for Astropaths to crack (If there isn't a better form on encryption at the time), which is all assuming it isn't passed through subspace, which they don't have access to anyways. If it was a hackable transmission, don't you think the opposing factions in-game would do such things?

2.) Assuming the shields don't protect them (which they would), it all depends on who you were trying that against. UEF, it might work, I don't know for sure, but against Seraphim or Aeon? The Way protects. It's why the warp wouldn't be able to corrupt either of those factions (Which if all 4 factions were working together, all would have to accept the Way), because The Way is MUCH more powerful than the warp.

3.) Units aren't dead, T3 SAM launchers or tactical missiles (maybe strategic or anti-missile would work too?) would blow your silly spaceships out of orbit before you could even tell what was going on.

OR

1.) Still moot. See above reason.

Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:
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ph34r wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:1. They can create a warp gate in front of them whenever they want. They just don't except for travel due to not wanting to have their souls eaten. And guess what happens to the giant robot when it tries to and get owned by the shields?

2. I forget nothing. I remember, however, how vastly inferior said craft were.

And they take time to reload, not to fire. Their not going into battle with uncharged lances. Just as one wouldn't go into battle with an unloaded gun. And with their full broadside on such a small target, they wouldn't have to aim. They could shatter continents.

Yeah, your reason was: WE CAN JUSSSS KEEEEEP MAKIN DE ROBOTZZZERS! But it doesn't matter if your ACU dies.

1. The Imperium does not have weaponized warp gates. They cannot use warp gates to destroy their enemies. The SupComs do. The SupComs can teleport a block of metal into the middle of your army and cause terrible destruction. The SupComs can teleport a giant robot into your ship if your shields are down.

Vortex missiles, vortex grenades and warheads would like to have a word with you.

The SupComs can make a giant spaceship just as easily as they can make a giant robot, they just need the appropriately larger amount of resources.

Guess what? When a ship comes out of the warp, its void shields are down and its geller fields are on.
That leaves you with two options.

1. Come in close to the planet, hoping to incant the litanies of targeting, powering, and firing to destroy the SupCom that you HOPE is still there (It probably will not be) before it uses its 5 second teleport to escape forever, and risk having a block of metal teleported into your command bridge.
2. Come in far from the planet, weapons targeted and ready, shields up against teleporters, and the SupCom (again, if it is still there, it probably is not) escapes and you hope you are able to destroy his ground army under the management of one of his SubCommanders or engineering core.
3. Destroy the commander the moment it teleports into a well-defended planet. UEF is weak. Cybrans are guorilla-cowards. Aoen Illuminate are weed smoking hippies who want to convert everyone. Kinda like the Tau. Now, who would the attacker be? Hmm?

And either way, your fleet of ships took at minimum weeks to months to get to the ACU.
Guess what an ACU can do in weeks to months?
They can do exactly what the Tyranids would do to your planet, except instead of stripping the biosphere and turning it into hungry alien bugs, they can strip the WHOLE THING and turn it into an entire fleet of starships. And they will have undoubtably teleported SubCommanders and other engineering forces to dozens, if not hundreds of other planets during these weeks to months.

Then why did the UEF lose in the first place if they could do that?

Because they were facing off against factions with very similar capabilities perhaps? It's like asking why do different factions of the IG not have the ability to wipe each other out.











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In other news, I just had to join in the argument, sorry for the late arrival, traffic on I-95 was awful. Anyways, have you wh40k boys ever heard of a TZAR or maybe an Ahwassasha? The former is a Discus craft that acts like a rain cloud, if rain were .5 megaton bombs, with lightning being a massive disintegration ray that cuts through anything. The latter being a MASSIVE shuttle that drops 90 megaton bombs. It's why the UEF, Cybran, and Illuminate were on the run in FA. Because the firing of Black Sun (Pretty much like an Exterminataus x 100 and way fething cooler) opened up a wormhole which QAI (Who by the way would hack into your Space Marine armor and other tech without so much as a flinch, and take complete control of the power armor, either forcing the Marines to do his bidding, or making them commit suicide on the spot. The wonders he could do if he got his hands on an Exterminataus (I'm not spelling it right am I?), or something similar. I think he became William Gauge in the second game. A Cybran, mixed with the most advanced AI ever to have existed, and Seraphim? Yes please! Now that I think about it, I want to write a fan fiction. I'll do that after I'm done here.) opened for the Seraphim to launch billions of those bombers onto Earth. Yeah, they could do that to your silly emperor's tob world too. After that, just sit back and relax. When the Chaos gods intervene, Othul (God-like being who powers the Seraphims Galactic Collaussi) would consume them, finding them to be quite tasty. I just took out your Aether, Chaos Gods, Space Marines, and the rest of humanity. 'Nids will be running, and Dr. Brackmann will produce a chemical that kills the fungus know as 'orks'. Tau will be reclaimed, and no one gives a gak about the eldar. Soon every one will be back to fighting each other, until we reach TA in which I'm not going to even go there. So tell me now, what else do you have to throw at us? Nothing? Thought so. Now to work on that fan fiction...

Oh Hai, Thread Necromancer!

An did you join for the sole reason of making a rebuttal on this thread?