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Please help me in my urge to make GW prices lower. In Aus, they expect us to buy a (small) paint pot for $6 and $103 for a Land Raider. How are kids or unemployed people meant to get that much money? Also Terminator Squads cost $74 and all you get is a five little plastic men . I urge you to email Games Workshop about the prices.
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There is no need to buy from anywhere in Australia.

@Guyperson5:

Paying retail for GW is your first wrong step.

Try not buying it from GW direct. Other stores often have discounted product.

For every person who complains about the prices and doesn't buy anything, there are 4 noobs with gullible parents coming into the "hobby" who will spend a packet that will not be repeated.

H.B.M.C. wrote:There is no need to buy from anywhere in Australia.

Thanks for that. I think I've finally found my alternative for Maelstrom Games after GW's embargo. Except how does Dicebucket get around it? I forget the details of the embargo, so maybe its cause it's outside of the UK? I dunno, either way, woot for awesomely discounted 40k stuff again. I havent bought a single thing from GW since their embargo. Shame about the shipping though, but beggars cant be choosers

As for GW prices, as above poster said. Paying retail for GW is the first wrong step. There are alternatives. It's just a matter of finding the best one available (like Maelstrom, til the embargo).

Another good few alternatives I was linked to was Chaos Orc (Online shopping cart, was linked to this by H.B.M.C too ) and The War Store (No online shopping cart)
I just made a purchase through The War Store. What I would recommend before making a purchase with them is to go through one of those two websites (Or even just GW), find exactly what you're after and specifically ask for an accurate shipping quote in your e-mail. I was originally quoted $60 on shipping to Australia as an estimate, but when I asked them to follow it up by weighing it I was quoted $35 (Same shipping charges as Dice Bucket in the 101-200 range, and roughly the same as Chaos Orc) I purchased x2 Assault Squads, x3 Death Company boxes and a Command Squad from them and the prices I was quoted were the exact same as Dice Bucket, and after the transaction was complete it was immediately shipped the next day, so I was very impressed.

Hope this helps.

Wayland Games was supposed to have a way to get around this. I dunno what happened in it in the end as I'm not in Australia. You could contact them and ask if they can ship to you.

Though my real suggestion is, switch to other games as they don't want to do business in there. In the end GW is not going to change their prices and buying through intermediaries still will mean that you pay GW for making your life more complicated .

I tried wayland games, they couldn't send to Canada, so Australia is probably the same.

Hena wrote:Wayland Games was supposed to have a way to get around this. I dunno what happened in it in the end as I'm not in Australia. You could contact them and ask if they can ship to you.

Though my real suggestion is, switch to other games as they don't want to do business in there. In the end GW is not going to change their prices and buying through intermediaries still will mean that you pay GW for making your life more complicated .

I will pay GW because I'm in the unfortunately bind of loving the 40k universe and their miniatures. So I compromise by paying LESS for their products through online intermediaries.

Never EVER buy from GW directly. Try Dicebucket (H.B.M.C's link), and also try ebay. You can buy painted minis from there for even more savings, then you can strip the paint off them.

You can learn about paint stripping here.

Though my real suggestion is, switch to other games as they don't want to do business in there. In the end GW is not going to change their prices and buying through intermediaries still will mean that you pay GW for making your life more complicated .

+1 this.

Seriously, at least look at some of the different games out there. GW is big however there are other systems that do things better than GW.

ie. been a 40k player for a while, and haven't bought jack since the embargo. Looking around I just got into Infinity, and compared to gw, consider...

- metal models are cheaper than gw
- rules are free
- army builder software is free
- rules and factions are BALANCED (no seriously. N00bs are advised to actually choose the models they like as each faction can have multiple builds that are effective)
- As chess is to checkers, infinity is to 40k.
- full tournament support with rankings around world
- can still purchase models cheaper online AND from overseas without worrying about the embargo headache
- It costs as little as $35 (for starter box with 6 metal models - compare that to gw! ) to get started with EVERYTHING you need.

The same goes for a lot of other systems (Dystopian Wars and Warmachine/Hordes being others that actually care about their player base).

Sure you like the 40k universe, as do i still, but maybe try something else and mix it up a bit until a better solution to the gw pricing/embargo presents itself.

This thread is cute.

Games Workshop is being an idot by Embargoing trade from European Traders. Also, Julia Gillard is also passing fair pricing laws through Parliament.

Perhaps it will work, though kind of doubtful.

rockerbikie wrote:Games Workshop is being an idot by Embargoing trade from European Traders. Also, Julia Gillard is also passing fair pricing laws through Parliament.

Me no understand
Surely fair pricing is a good thing? Why is she being an idiot?

You're lucky (in relative terms) that you are even able to buy the miniatures following the embargo. For some of us in other parts of the world that have no official GW presence, the GW hobby has effectively been smothered.

I've taken the hint, and have moved on (Infinity and gone back to doing some Flames of War stuff). As other posters have said, these days we are fortunate that there are so many other options.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:Games Workshop is being an idot by Embargoing trade from European Traders. Also, Julia Gillard is also passing fair pricing laws through Parliament.

Me no understand
Surely fair pricing is a good thing? Why is she being an idiot?

Not a politics forum.

Just thinking outside the box here, no idea if it's even viable, but is it possible to set up a mail forwarding address in a northern hemisphere country? Ie, buy through GW UK website, ship to address in London, which has a mail divert to your real address in Aus?

Pure question, no idea if it'd even work...?

MediumYellow wrote:

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:Games Workshop is being an idot by Embargoing trade from European Traders. Also, Julia Gillard is also passing fair pricing laws through Parliament.

Me no understand
Surely fair pricing is a good thing? Why is she being an idiot?

Not a politics forum.

You want to go down to OT and tell people that?

kitch102 wrote:Just thinking outside the box here, no idea if it's even viable, but is it possible to set up a mail forwarding address in a northern hemisphere country? Ie, buy through GW UK website, ship to address in London, which has a mail divert to your real address in Aus?

Pure question, no idea if it'd even work...?

Maybe one friend shipping to another, but not going to work after that. The poor guy doing all the work will also get the hassles when stuff is late or damaged, screwed out of money by someone eventually, or his wife will throw a fit about all the extra time he's putting in running to the post office. It would have to be set up like a business of some sort to do it, and then that can end up with it's own problems.

Not a politics forum.

Thanks for the explaination. I understand why she is being an idiot now!

guyperson5 wrote:How are unemployed people meant to get that much money?

My god. People without a steady income can't afford overpriced luxury items? This isn't a world I want to live in!

But yeah please don't be all Internet-naive and think you can change the world with email petitions and forum threads. Like any other business, GW understands things in terms of sales. Vote with your wallet.

Leave GW alone!

If Aussies got money, GW needs to be bending them over the cannon. They already had thier way with little timmy, now its your turn.


You want to play, your going to PAY! lol

xttz wrote:

guyperson5 wrote:How are unemployed people meant to get that much money?

My god. People without a steady income can't afford overpriced luxury items? This isn't a world I want to live in!

I agree. The unemployed have much more important things to think about lol.

Just as food for thought.

Maybe GW have tried to embargo Australia so they can bring prices down.

Many corporates try to hedge their currency exchange sometimes up to 12 months in advance on forward contracts. This can be based on historic sales and predicted ones.

By people not buying product in Aus it may actually keep the prices inflated as there isn't enough product being sold to make there currency contracts comfortable. Basically the more product they shift they can predict their currency contracts better and take more risk with product/rate margins. Until GW can form a core buying threshold in Aus prices may stay inflated?

Could be off on a tangent but by Aussies not buying from GW in Aus it may be adding to the problem. Probably one for Aussies to speak with their store managers about. They may have more insight on the matter?

Any company trying to establish a local market needs the local market to buy from it to make it a worthwhile venture.

xttz wrote:

guyperson5 wrote:How are unemployed people meant to get that much money?

My god. People without a steady income can't afford overpriced luxury items? This isn't a world I want to live in!
.

I was going to say the exact same thing. Not to be elitist, but this hobby is not for everyone. There are cost that goes along with this and every hobby.

You are so right
I am unemployed and at the behest of so many rightminded Dakka members have decided to forgo the pleasures of Games Workshop HHHobbying.

It was wrong to think that I could participate in a rich nerds' HHHobby and beg forgiveness for my impertinence and hubris.
Now it will be watching daytime tv for me like a good and proper benefit scrounger. The Jeremy Kyle Show awaits.
I humbly doff my cap and grovel at your feet.

Yours from the wrong side of the tracks,
Chibi "Please Sir May I Have Some More" Gutter-Snipe.

jbunny wrote:

xttz wrote:

guyperson5 wrote:How are unemployed people meant to get that much money?

My god. People without a steady income can't afford overpriced luxury items? This isn't a world I want to live in!
.

I was going to say the exact same thing. Not to be elitist, but this hobby is not for everyone. There are cost that goes along with this and every hobby.

Indeed!

Memo imediately posted to Aussie benefits office demanding a raise in benefits so those claiming can afford non essential plastic soliders at the tax payers expense.

This has to be the least legitimate reason for GW reducing prices.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:You are so right
I am unemployed and at the behest of so many rightminded Dakka members have decided to forgo the pleasures of Games Workshop HHHobbying.

It was wrong to think that I could participate in a rich nerds' HHHobby and beg forgiveness for my impertinence and hubris.
Now it will be watching daytime tv for me like a good and proper benefit scrounger. The Jeremy Kyle Show awaits.
I humbly doff my cap and grovel at your feet.

Yours from the wrong side of the tracks,
Chibi "Please Sir May I Have Some More" Gutter-Snipe.

You're taking it the wrong way.

People with a normal, steady income of $40k a year cannot afford a new Lamborghini, so should they make those cheaper so everyone can? It doesn't work like that.

If you can be on unemployment, and still provide for your family while still buying GW stuff, more power to you. But saying that GW should reduce their prices so the unemployed can afford it also is just ignorant.

guyperson5 wrote: I urge you to email Games Workshop about the prices.
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I mailed them earlier this year about the embargo and the price hike that hit at the same time.

My civic duty is complete for the year.

Mail them, don't email them.

Also, young kids don't buy GW products. Their parents do.

GW isn't concerned about the unemployed. I'd leave that part out of your letter.

No
It is being presented the wrong way
I doubt the OP was seriously consideing that prices be reduced for the benefit of the unemployed. It is however an unfortunate consequence of the excess that Aussies are expected to pay that those on lower incomes will be squeezed out.

The comment about unemployed people was a tad ill considered and despite my sarcasm, it should not be allowed to distract from the fact that the RoW has been treated very badly.

Edit: What Kronk said sounds right to me ^