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Zengu wrote:
So are we not getting a big box set like St and tyranid? Or did those come a little later?

Most likely later, they've still got to release Ogryns and the new Commissar.

Zengu wrote:
So are we not getting a big box set like St and tyranid? Or did those come a little later?

That will probably be later, it doesn't look like they've released all of the new models yet.

 derling wrote:

 Mr.Omega wrote:

Wow! I hope this isn't a belated April fools Joke. I loved AutoCannon Armored Sentinels at 60pts per model. I can only love them more at 45 pts per model.
Shoot, shoot, shoot,..., bog down Assault units.
Now show me a page identifying Valyries as a dedicated transport option!

Lascannon sentinels for 50 points are even better : outrange these HYMP broadsides and instakill them.
45 points for a missile equipped sentinel that can one-shot crisis suits, tyranid warriors, wraithguard ? Yes please !


Now my bulky second edition sentinels are just waiting for a cockpit conversion to be fielded properly.

Yay, my Sentinel wall will again be fielded!!!

 Maxurugi wrote:

 ultimentra wrote:
Good to know that Armored sentinels are still not worth taking!

Armored Sentinels with Plasma cannons for 50 pts instead of 75 seem at least considerable.

omg, love your meme

 Paradigm wrote:

alphaecho wrote:
So, does the wording of the Hunting Lance mean you only get the special profile once but it continues to be a standard CCW after that?

I have loads of Rough Riders but I rarely play nowadays so get rusty on rules.

Yep, just a normal CCW after the first charge.

Is that new? I thought RR used to come with lance and ccw or las pistol.

Once the lance was used, they were down to 1 attack as they only had ccw or laspistol.

This wording indicates they will continue to get +1 attack dependant on the rest of the Codex entry.

Am I the only one who thinks the commissar´s cap looks cool?

What I don´t really like is the weird saber and pose

Hot dang! I love 40 point Armored Sentinels! 50 point plasma or lascannons! Reasonably good tarpitters! Cheaper than a Chimera with half the footprint! I started some conversions a long time ago, but just couldn't make myself finish. I'm totally sold, now.

I can get a squadron of 3 AV12 walkers with plasma cannons for 150 points. That's substantially less than an Executioner for equivalent firepower (before sponson upgrades, at least), but in a Fast Attack slot intsead of a Heavy slot.

Vendettas are up to about 75 points per lascannon hit per turn. Armored Sentinels are down to 100 points per lascannon hit per turn, but they start on the board. It's not looking quite as ridiculously one-sided as it once was.

If Armored Sentinels are 40 points base, what do we expect regular sentinels to drop to? 30? That would make it 40 points for the Scout version with lascannon. That starts getting pretty interesting also. Either type is cheap enough that a Sentinel Alpha Strike Spam with heavy weapon + hunter-killer doesn't really seem super expensive. 9 Armored sentinels with 10 point guns and HKs is 540 points and puts out a lot of mobile heavy weapons fire that doesn't degenerate into a parking lot. It's enough spam to be durable, but not so many points that it denies you infantry or HS. Also provides nice mobile cover to you infantry.

(I really like Sentinels)

Biophysical wrote:
Hot dang! I love 40 point Armored Sentinels! 50 point plasma or lascannons! Reasonably good tarpitters! Cheaper than a Chimera with half the footprint! I started some conversions a long time ago, but just couldn't make myself finish. I'm totally sold, now.

I can get a squadron of 3 AV12 walkers with plasma cannons for 150 points. That's substantially less than an Executioner for equivalent firepower (before sponson upgrades, at least), but in a Fast Attack slot intsead of a Heavy slot.

Vendettas are up to about 75 points per lascannon hit per turn. Armored Sentinels are down to 100 points per lascannon hit per turn, but they start on the board. It's not looking quite as ridiculously one-sided as it once was.

If Armored Sentinels are 40 points base, what do we expect regular sentinels to drop to? 30? That would make it 40 points for the Scout version with lascannon. That starts getting pretty interesting also. Either type is cheap enough that a Sentinel Alpha Strike Spam with heavy weapon + hunter-killer doesn't really seem super expensive. 9 Armored sentinels with 10 point guns and HKs is 540 points and puts out a lot of mobile heavy weapons fire that doesn't degenerate into a parking lot. It's enough spam to be durable, but not so many points that it denies you infantry or HS. Also provides nice mobile cover to you infantry.

(I really like Sentinels)

I was thinking 25 points a scout sentinal.

-15 points for -2 AV, + open topped + scout seems reasonable.

Though I do not play IG, I do admit that sentinals are pretty cool.

30 points for an outflanking autocannons scout sentinel is very good in my book.

Haha, my oft dreamed about and more often vaporised SentinWall army has taken a turn for the more effective. At these point six becomes nine!

I liked Sentinels before they were cool, just so you know.

Inquisitor Jex wrote:
30 points for an outflanking autocannons scout sentinel is very good in my book.

Yep.

Which is why they most likely won't be 25 pts a pop

Inquisitor Jex wrote:
30 points for an outflanking autocannons scout sentinel is very good in my book.

I ran my scout sentinels with autocannons and HK missiles. Used to be a 50 point load out. Good to know that I will be able to field them for more or less free.

 notprop wrote:
Haha, my oft dreamed about and more often vaporised SentinWall army has taken a turn for the more effective. At these point six becomes nine!

I liked Sentinels before they were cool, just so you know.

Impossible! Sentinels have always been cool.

Nine Sentinels in Astra Militarum, 3 Valkyries in Militarum Tempestus...

And tanks! Can't forget tanks!

 Kanluwen wrote:
Nine Sentinels in Astra Militarum, 3 Valkyries in Militarum Tempestus...

And tanks! Can't forget tanks!

18 sentinals if using 2FOC

mmm like the changes to sentinels and RR's so far...

I can really see the IG dex balancing outhte meta nicely...

so much cheap av 12 that wrecks skimmers, mmmmmmmm

maybe 2014 tournaments wont just be endless WS spam anymore... I really hope everyone who shelled out big bucks just to have the most OP broken list for a few months is rolling in their graves when they get rolled by IG now

The sheer amount of strength 7 AP4 spam possible now is pretty scary for Tau and Eldar players I would say.

On a very interesting note, look who is NOT available for the IG elites.

That's right, no "stormtroopers".

Any reason why the Sentinals are no longer under the AM Fast Attack tab on the main website?

 Maxurugi wrote:

 ultimentra wrote:
Good to know that Armored sentinels are still not worth taking!

Armored Sentinels with Plasma cannons for 50 pts instead of 75 seem at least considerable.

Quoted for truth.

I cant preorder wtf:

The first name is missing in the address.
The last name is missing in the address.
The address line is missing in the address.
The city is missing in the address.
The zip code in the address is invalid for the country.

I have entered it multiple times.

 Tomb King wrote:
I cant preorder wtf:

The first name is missing in the address.
The last name is missing in the address.
The address line is missing in the address.
The city is missing in the address.
The zip code in the address is invalid for the country.

I have entered it multiple times.

The address is missing in the address.

 Happygrunt wrote:
On a very interesting note, look who is NOT available for the IG elites.

That's right, no "stormtroopers".

Ogryn aren't in there either! OMG! NOGRYN!

The current ones are 35 vs 55 for the armored variety, but the armored ones were way overpriced. I'd be pretty surprised to see Scouts for 25 base points. I could see them adding some extra ability to Scouts for their 30 points. They already have Scout and Move Through Cover, maybe Fleet?

Now this from GW:


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I just noticed on GW's website, The last chancers and Gaunt's Ghosts were added to the listing in the troops section.

If an armored sentinel is 40pts, that means an unarmored one must be in the 25-30 range, which would be really cool. At that price, sentinels actually seem useful again. I'd rather have them for smaller games like kill team, but at that cheap a price you can bring a few and not break the bank.

And if they somehow got the option to be added on to infantry platoons, it would actually make the battleforce box *gasp* a really good starting point for guard.

I mean yeah, they're still not amazing, but at that price you don't care. They're literally so cheap that anything they kill is a bonus, and if they distract even a single unit of fire from something more important, it was probably worth it. I can actually see myself taking armored ones now. 40pts for an autocannon armored sentinel is a pretty good package, if not jaw dropping. I'd definitely give them a try.

I don't give a damn on what point cost the scout sentinel is set at. They are way too fragile. I desperately tried to play them, with different loadouts (autocannon / multilaser / lascannon). They are ex-aequo with ork buggies for the title of the most fragile vehicle in the game. They disappear as soon as a unit can draw a line of fire to them. They can get wiped out the turn they come into play, by the usual interceptor units. Playing scout sentinels is depressing. I was fully aware of their vulnerability when I played them in 5th edition, but they kind of worked, back then. Sixth edition arrival represented the kiss of death to scout sentinels.

Armoured sentinels carry some tactical potential and actual resilience, and I encourage anyone liking the sentinel model or concept to give them a good try. Especially with the new pricing.

If you need a suicidal unit carrying serious firepower, that can appear out of nowhere, units of scions will do the job much better. Plus, they can achieve line-breaker mission objective, while scout sentinel cannot.

If this is true, and Chimeras haven't been completely nerfed, we might see a return to mechanized warfare with IG. I'm thinking Chimeras with Plasma Vets behind an ADL, and Missile Launcher Sentinels behind them for the cover save shooting over the top.

We'll see...I really don't feel like buying an assload of sentinels.