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This poll is for Necron players. As I have stated before, I would like to have my Pariahs back in some official capacity. Some how my other thread got hi-jacked and got turned into a "just use them as..." thread. So here it is. It's a poll. The choices are "YES" or "NO". No comments, or other opinions , or "use them as Lychguard" garbage. Just answere the question with the availilable options.

As a Necron player, would you like GamesWorkshop to bring Pariahs back an a playable unit?

You could always use them as Lychg... oh.

Really don't care. If we could have them as was in the old codex, but as counts as necrons and with the changes to warscythes, I might take them. But quite honestly, no.

No use whining about it constantly. Seen a few of these threads already. No one used pariahs before, so why care about them now?

Pariahs are the new Squats.

Lychguard are vastly better. Use them. Stating that you don't want to hear the correct opinion makes it seem like you aren't open to reason anyway.

Like everyone else, just use them... oh.

NO! GET OVER IT! They were stupidly horrible ugly models anyway.

I feel bad for all those players who spent... what? Like $10 a models for those ugly things?

Pariahs had no place in the old list... and certainly have no purpose now.

They were just cheap knock offs of the Cullexus anyway.

If your thread turned into a "Just use them as...", then maybe that's the way people think about Pariahs!

Did that ever strike you?

Tyr wrote:You could always use them as Lychg... oh.

Really don't care. If we could have them as was in the old codex, but as counts as necrons and with the changes to warscythes, I might take them. But quite honestly, no.

No use whining about it constantly. Seen a few of these threads already. No one used pariahs before, so why care about them now?

Pariahs are the new Squats.

DarknessEternal wrote:Lychguard are vastly better. Use them. Stating that you don't want to hear the correct opinion makes it seem like you aren't open to reason anyway.

DeffDred wrote:Like everyone else, just use them... oh.

NO! GET OVER IT! They were stupidly horrible ugly models anyway.

I feel bad for all those players who spent... what? Like $10 a models for those ugly things?

Pariahs had no place in the old list... and certainly have no purpose now.

They were just cheap knock offs of the Cullexus anyway.

Marzillius wrote:If your thread turned into a "Just use them as...", then maybe that's the way people think about Pariahs!

Did that ever strike you?

Did you guys read the instructions? Can you guys get that I am looking for numbers not comments? If you want to comment, go here
Thank you.

I posted yes, but one thing i have to say is that you are never going anywhere with this...

GW have a habit of retconning how they see fit, and when something goes, it's gone.

For good.

Until they can make a buck out of it anyway...

lowmanjason wrote:

Did you guys read the instructions? Can you guys get that I am looking for numbers not comments? If you want to comment, go here
Thank you.

If you don't want comments, don't post on a comment board.

No.

There's no need to have two threads on the same topic either (even if one of them was an ill-worded and rather over the top rant). Just create the poll in your other thread, or get it locked.

I can understand the desire to bring Pariah's back though, considering it was rare to see a Necron army that didn't field them. [/sarcasm]

Yes, I didn't like the models/rules much, but they were a unique and interesting part of the army, that did some good things for the setting. Also, the new version of the c'tan are pretty weak as a concept.

So you want to complain but make it official with "numbers"? Lychguard provide a good rule basis for the old models. Leadership modifiers don't particularly fit with the new direction the rulebook anyway.

Also, I just posted about lychguard. It seems you are not able to prevent people from making reasonable replies. Fancy that.

With all the changes to the fluff, Pariahs make no sense from a fluff standpoint, and in terms of rules, Lychguard are better.

Pariahs were an utter waste of points in the last codex, and in this codex, well..... see the above.

So, use them as Lychguard.

I like how so many people are indeed jumping up shouting "Stop whining! Use them as Lychguard!" Guys, Lychguard are bad, if not worse, than Pariahs using the same darn weapon. Warscythes aren't fantastic anymore and in combat the unit will suck. If anything the shields would be a decent option for Lychguard... so there goes the "Pariahs as Lychguard" idea.

Really, OP wanted a simple yes or no. Instead you threw the same mess of "use as Lychguard you whiner" at him. Give him some space... he has an opinion, let him keep it.

To OP: I liked Pariahs as a unit. Granted they would've been tricky to use in combat effectively but with decent application I can see uses. Lychguard however, look limited to the shields. Warscythes are duds, regardless of keeping 2d6 armour pen, and Lychguard will suck harder in CC with the armywide I2. And no, having a 5+ FNP equiv roll won't maake the unit better either.

But what do I know? I don't play Necrons.

At strength 7 + 2D6 they're reasonable at popping armour, and even if you take a shield they're just going to die in combat, I2 is not something to write home about.

Since their use is basically limited to armour killing the warscythes are not a bad choice.

Lord on a command barge + war scythe = can opener

Though, you will also be a bullet magnet lol

Look mate, the pariahs are gone, they are never going to be back in 5th edition, and again, there's lychguard, why would you want overpriced models that no one used and had almost no battlefield value when you can have a sturdier and somewhat better unit that actually have upgrade choices?

and stop complaining, no one, not even GW is going to
re-release them as an official unit, want to know why? the new codex is out, you're too late, stop whining and embrace the newer models!

Oh look, this guy again. If you really, really want to use that awful unit that you alone used, I doubt many people will argue in casual games if you use the old rules.

lowmanjason wrote:
Did you guys read the instructions? Can you guys get that I am looking for numbers not comments? If you want to comment, go here

It's clear that we did since we made comments upon the dubious nature of posting a thread and demanding no comments.

Also, that other thread is locked.

The only way I would accept a return of the Pirahas is through some sort of renegade ad mech codex detailing some sort of schism in the ad mech where like half of them go necron.

Some sort of "secret battle for mars" thing. Then, human cyborgs with necron technology powering them make perfect sense.

I'm honestly surprised at the amount of people who don't want Pariahs to return. If you don't want to use them, then don't use them. Why should those of us who liked them suffer?

H.B.M.C. wrote:I'm honestly surprised at the amount of people who don't want Pariahs to return. If you don't want to use them, then don't use them. Why should those of us who liked them suffer?

It's not so much that they want them back (which is kind of a mystery given the fact there are better units that serve the same purpose now) but because this particular poster is particularly insistent, going so far as to restate his demands with every post in his previous thread.

Some of you guys are just ignorant. There may be units with similar stat lines but there are NO units that serve the same purpose as Pariahs did. Let me tell you something else, comparing psychic defense and anti-psychics is like comparing an anti-tank mine to a Javiline Missile. They are not the same. And one more thing, if you dont like this thread, stay off of it.

If someone posted a reasonable thread in proposed rules, with nice, updated, balanced pariahs, guess what kind of response it would get. Probably the kind involving congratulations, constructive criticism, and all around good feeling.

Instead, we get a whine thread in General Discussion. The title even makes it sound somewhat reasonable, if misguided, so that people actually look. And then, our OP demands that everyone who doesn't agree with him should shut up and get lost. I find that insulting.

The old codex's pariahs didn't serve a purpose, they provided an underpowered gimmick which did not fit in the old codex. See my first suggestion on how this could be resolved.

Irdiumstern wrote:If someone posted a reasonable thread in proposed rules, with nice, updated, balanced pariahs, guess what kind of response it would get. Probably the kind involving congratulations, constructive criticism, and all around good feeling.

Instead, we get a whine thread in General Discussion. The title even makes it sound somewhat reasonable, if misguided, so that people actually look. And then, our OP demands that everyone who doesn't agree with him should shut up and get lost. I find that insulting.

The old codex's pariahs didn't serve a purpose, they provided an underpowered gimmick which did not fit in the old codex. See my first suggestion on how this could be resolved.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/411515.page#3585343

Done.

I'm an oldschool necron player. They consisted my first foray into 40k, and I loved them for what they were. And the pariahs were some of my favourite models (sentimentally attached as well).

In spite of this, the only good things about pariahs were their warscythes. If brought back with the rules such as those proposed in the proposed rules forum, then I would buy them. Heck, I may just buy a couple old metal ones of e-bay just so I can say I have a full 10 man old school pariah squad.

Nobody said you can't disagree, I just asked you do it in a different thread. I've heard all the other stuff before. All I was asking for was a simple yes or no but that seems just too hard or abstract for some people. Unfortunatly that other thread that I was trying to direct comments to was closed after this one was made. I think Iridiumstern and CthuluIsSpy may be on to something. I like things to be offical that is why I would like them back by GWs hand. I know they probably won't ever even consider it. But as of now anyway, I live in a free country and if I wanna complain on the internet about a coperate dicision, that is my right. If you dont like it, stop coming back. But also, it might be fun for us to post ideas for new pariahs in that thread here by CthuluIsSpy. Why not?

Internet forums not are part of free speech. Sorry, but forums can decide that you can only talk about sausages, and if you talk about something else you get banned. Being impolite is against the rules on Dakkadakka (and excessive whining and insulting people is very impolite), as is creating multiple threads if I remember correctly.

No. You should just use them as Lychguard.

lowmanjason wrote:I live in a free country and if I wanna complain on the internet about a coperate dicision, that is my right. If you dont like it, stop coming back.

It is also their right to respond in a manner you may not have liked. If you feel people are derailing the thread, report it to a mod.

I vote no, by the way. Never liked the fluff.

Marzillius wrote:Internet forums not are part of free speech. Sorry, but forums can decide that you can only talk about sausages, and if you talk about something else you get banned. Being impolite is against the rules on Dakkadakka (and excessive whining and insulting people is very impolite), as is creating multiple threads if I remember correctly.

Maybe so, but I can choose what forums I talk on. Yes it is free speech. It is also a relavent topic in a specific community. I didnt insult anybody. I asked a question. It was others that started name calling. I don't go to your threads and say "screw you I wanna talk about something else in your thread"". I believe that is called hi-jacking. Anyway...