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Sarouan wrote:

Voss wrote:

I have no idea what you mean here. I paint everything until it's done. Nothing gets more care or more (or fewer) 'compromises' Not sure how that would work.

That's good for you. It's just not the case for everyone. Not everyone has infinite free time, after all. But I wouldn't expect you to understand that if you didn't the first time.


And yeah, of course you can still take cheaper cavalry boxes to "convert" their miniatures into Blood Knights as a lot of players did at the time of Battle. Even use spirit hosts as fell bats or whatever you want.

Ah, well. Glad you took the time to specifically object, but then make a show of not explaining why you object.

I’m wondering what units will end up as battleline. This is a very interesting release for me!

 godswildcard wrote:
I’m wondering what units will end up as battleline. This is a very interesting release for me!

I'm betting Skeletons and Zombies, and probably Direwolves with the Direwolf lady

Blood knights and vargheist likely. They were battleline in soulblight to begin with

I expect lot of units could be battleline with correct general (kinda hope for Grave Guard for that role actually).

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 godswildcard wrote:
I’m wondering what units will end up as battleline. This is a very interesting release for me!

I'm betting Skeletons and Zombies, and probably Direwolves with the Direwolf lady

From the Day One preview article :

Dire Wolves

Dire Wolves are a Battleline unit for any Soulblight Gravelords army, fighting not only for the Vyrkos and their vampiric kin, but all manner of undead forces.

So Battleline for everyone. Happy wolf time !

I like these skellies more and more. Zombies I still prefer Fireforge Games ones.

First article is up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/10/all-of-the-vampiric-bloodlines-are-noble-but-only-one-has-wolf-paws/

And too good picture of Mannfred:

Vampiric Bloodlines article

On the tabletop, the variety of Vyrkos Heroes, including Radukar the Beast and Belladamma Volga, all count as generals if taken in a Vyrkos army. That makes them a great option for players who like strong support from leaders and Wizards.

If you like armies full of massive fiends, like the incredible Lauka Vai we recently revealed during Warhammer Fest, you can’t go wrong with the Avengorii. They’re even able to take Terrorgheists and Zombie Dragons as battleline units… feel free to imagine the look on your opponent’s face.

The lord of the Crimson Keep is Prince Vhordrai, the Fist of Nagash. This mighty vampire leads his knights to war from the front, or more accurately from above on his zombie dragon. The well-drilled Kastelai cavalry values feats of skill and strength in combat, and they become even stronger as the blood begins to flow.

When they do sally forth from their stronghold in Nulahmia, the Deathrattle legions march in lockstep, in a menacing display of Neferata’s ironclad will. Add the fact that the Legion of Blood can take Black Knights as battleline units, and you have a reliable core of skeletal warriors around which to build your army.

If you want to showcase the dark majesty of Death, the Legion of Blood are peerless exemplars.

Voss wrote:

Cronch wrote:

Goose LeChance wrote:

No, a single box will look fine. A big horde will look awful.

Edit: Also these are some incredibly dull, PG Zombies. Is GW looking to sell to Disney along with everyone else? heh

They're skeletons and zombies, no one will notice because they're visual filler, because they're trashmobs. You could model each of the old skeletons individually, with love and care, and no one would notice, because at the end of day, they're just zombies. The only emotion zombies elicit when deployed is a sigh of annoyance at having to deal with a tarpit horde.

Not everyone sees miniatures as meaningless tokens. To some, they do see the difference in models and care taken in building/painting them.

There;s going to be 20+, probably 30 of 40 of them. You will not spend time gawking and oohing and aahing at the zombies, you will look at the centerpiece models. They're visual background of the game, even if you care a lot.

Oh....oh no.

I could do an entire army of massive great smelly Undead gribblies...

A bit of interesting fluff on the Vyrkos Dynasty (e.g., Belladamma and Radukar):

This unusual dynasty has developed a distinct culture. The legends say their Soulblight curse cannot be traced back to Nagash, but rather to a godbeast – which would explain the strange nature of their affliction.

Voss wrote:

Ah, well. Glad you took the time to specifically object, but then make a show of not explaining why you object.

I did explain, you just didn't care.

And if you really want to make a unit of 60 zombies each painted masterfully with a very unique pose, sure it will look awesome. But like Cronch said :

Cronch wrote:

There;s going to be 20+, probably 30 of 40 of them. You will not spend time gawking and oohing and aahing at the zombies, you will look at the centerpiece models. They're visual background of the game, even if you care a lot.

So yeah, the zombies may be not the ones you should really be focusing as making masterpieces, from a general point of view.

You do however you like, obviously, Voss. But complaining because GW makes a kit of zombies with some repeated miniatures as a general case ? Sounds like more a problem you specifically have because you want GW to adapt to your own priorities without caring what it means for everyone else.

Yep, units with unique poses for every miniature would have cost much more to the customers, and we wouldn't have a unit at that price for 20 zombies. You know it.


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 Ghaz wrote:
A bit of interesting fluff on the Vyrkos Dynasty (e.g., Belladamma and Radukar):

This unusual dynasty has developed a distinct culture. The legends say their Soulblight curse cannot be traced back to Nagash, but rather to a godbeast – which would explain the strange nature of their affliction.

It's good to have more Death factions without mandatory Nagash, indeed.

New Zombies can be built in (at least) 20 configurations straight from the box. If this is not enough, what is?

20 unique models is certainly better than old kit where every fifth model had the same pair of legs or torso. It looks like most models are 2-3 pieces each so they should be quite fast to build too.

The prices are surprisingly reasonable. These are definitely joining my grey legions.

Gw used to be able to do kits that had lot more than 20 poses though.

Then they decided "screw customers"

jullevi wrote:
New Zombies can be built in (at least) 20 configurations straight from the box. If this is not enough, what is?

20 unique models is certainly better than old kit where every fifth model had the same pair of legs or torso. It looks like most models are 2-3 pieces each so they should be quite fast to build too.

The prices are surprisingly reasonable. These are definitely joining my grey legions.

Where have you seen prices?

Page before this one.


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 Kanluwen wrote:
Lauka, Blood Knights, and Skeletons would be $60USD.
Zombies would be $54USD.
Fell Bats would be $50USD.
Vampire Lord would be $30USD.

This is all just off-the-cuff range comparisons, looking at Belgium's English webstore then swapping it over to US.

4 Things You Need to Know About the Next Edition of Warhammer Age of Sigmar on Warhammer Community

The Age of Sigmar website has a timer counting down to Saturday the 29th of May. Perhaps the pre-order date for 3rd edition.

"we guarantee you won’t be expecting exactly who’s peering from the swamps and waiting for their moment to strike."

I mean, if it's Fimir, I think a lot of people are expecting them.Swamp, fog, etc.

So maybe its something totally random?

I think a chunk of folks are hoping for these "Silent People" that were first mentioned in Underworlds to make an appearance

 Ghaz wrote:
4 Things You Need to Know About the Next Edition of Warhammer Age of Sigmar on Warhammer Community

The Age of Sigmar website has a timer counting down to Saturday the 29th of May. Perhaps the pre-order date for 3rd edition.

Two week preorder perhaps.
13th June is that?

 Ghaz wrote:
4 Things You Need to Know About the Next Edition of Warhammer Age of Sigmar on Warhammer Community

The Age of Sigmar website has a timer counting down to Saturday the 29th of May. Perhaps the pre-order date for 3rd edition.

More like big preview of box set etc.

No reason to think gw woucd deviate from pattere and release new edition months sooner and with less hype in normal times let alone when they are months behind schedule.

It'll be a new spawning of Lizardmen ushering in the great push against Chaos, hopefully with all new sculpts to fight alongside Kroak.

Danny76 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
4 Things You Need to Know About the Next Edition of Warhammer Age of Sigmar on Warhammer Community

The Age of Sigmar website has a timer counting down to Saturday the 29th of May. Perhaps the pre-order date for 3rd edition.

Two week preorder perhaps.
13th June is that?

Has gw ever released edition in june? Don't think so. This short hype would still be weird.

The important news is like 40k with Indomitus.

They are doing a Launch Box for the new edition.
No guarantee this time there will be a MTO after it’s all out.
Recommendation to grab ASAP just in case..

tneva82 wrote:
Gw used to be able to do kits that had lot more than 20 poses though.

Then they decided "screw customers"

Those are all kits that consumers are complaining about because they are old and decrepit. Because when you aim for multiple poses you will have to do things very basic and action-man-y like the current Ork kit or the standard old Space marine kits with the hover hands and so on. Even then you had static leg poses and the torso got to be super spinny and weird sometimes.I mean, it was spinning torso, weird ass shoulder joints, and head. That was about it for posability and maybe some spinning wrist action.

You can either get beautiful and well crafted models or you can get all the poses you could wish for with stick man models. I don't think GW ever decided to "screw customers" but more just wanted to make better looking models. I'll admit I am biased though as I really do like the artistic quality of many of the recent models in recent years.


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tneva82 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
4 Things You Need to Know About the Next Edition of Warhammer Age of Sigmar on Warhammer Community

The Age of Sigmar website has a timer counting down to Saturday the 29th of May. Perhaps the pre-order date for 3rd edition.

More like big preview of box set etc.

No reason to think gw woucd deviate from pattere and release new edition months sooner and with less hype in normal times let alone when they are months behind schedule.

GW did say that there are 2 previews left in this month and we are already 1/3rd of the way through it. The countdown kinda indicates the big AoS preview will happen at the end of the month.

tneva82 wrote:

Danny76 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
4 Things You Need to Know About the Next Edition of Warhammer Age of Sigmar on Warhammer Community

The Age of Sigmar website has a timer counting down to Saturday the 29th of May. Perhaps the pre-order date for 3rd edition.

Two week preorder perhaps.
13th June is that?

Has gw ever released edition in june? Don't think so. This short hype would still be weird.

Soul Wars went on pre-order on 16 June 2018 and was released 30 June 2018.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/16/pre-order-the-new-edition-today/

No, they never were if you wanted the models to look ok. Gluing arms backwards does not a pose make.

Or you can at least make minimum effort and make so you can slap any arms and heads on any model in any combination, which would be quite trivial when making skeletons who have absolutely no flesh which could make it look awkward

 Theophony wrote:
It'll be a new spawning of Lizardmen ushering in the great push against Chaos, hopefully with all new sculpts to fight alongside Kroak.

Not against Stormcast, it won’t be.