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as above what unit do you think is best in your 'dex and why

Thunder Wolves!!!! - Wound allocation shenanigans, all with power weapons, base str5, base T5, Beasts (fleet), option for invulns the list goes on....

Black Templar; Sword Brethren Assault Terminators, 7 POLC terminators with Furious Charge, all in a LRC , quite expensive @ 566 points, but well worth the 28 power weapon attacks, all refilling hits and wounds on initiative 5 and at str 5.

Best is a very subjective view. I view best as the 'most powerful per point' unit.

Vanilla Marines : TH/SS
Space Wolves : Grey Hunters
Grey Knights : PsyRiflemen
Ork : Shoota boy
SoB : DCA
IG : Chimera Vets
Eldar : Fire Dragons

As an imperial guardsmen, i would have to say that the best unit would be chimera vets, but the platoon squad comes in a close second because the power blob style of play.

As a sinlge unit for IG, I would have to say a vendetta. What you get for the points is ridiculous.

For GKs I would say its a close tie between Psyflemen and Purifiers.

Orks is hands down the big mek with KFF. Mandatory for almost every single army build.

Ork: KFF Mek is top notch but so are the good ol'shoota boy
IG: Melta Vets in chimera or the vendetta
SM: TH/SS in Land raider crusaider is nice pnch to the face
Tyranids: Love the trygon prime. Synops, MC and a beast in CC
CSM: Plague marines are tough and can have 2 melta in a 5 man squad

IG - it's not vets in a chimera or a vendetta. Vendettas are nice (but aren't proper transports), and vets are neat, but fragile and can only do one thing.

The best unit in the guard codex is probably the company command squad.

- they give buffs out to other units.

- they screw with the metagame (with advisers).

- they can be kitted to handle any situation (whether with a lascannon and MoO and 4x plasma, or with straken, 4x meltas and a priest).

- they're pretty cheap (especially as HQ choices in other codecies go).

After that would probably be the infantry platoon as it does all of the above with the exception of the metagame (though if you bring al'rahem...), then followed by the vendetta for the sheer killy power.

Thunder Wolves!!!! - Wound allocation shenanigans, all with power weapons, base str5, base T5, Beasts (fleet), option for invulns the list goes on....

They don't all have power weapons, they have rending which makes them better at killing tanks and less effective at killing heavy infantry.

Wolves is Grey Hunters for sure.

Ork boyz are pretty damn good, specially because of their cost. Really a pretty good stat line for 6pts. And they can surprise people with what a blob of them can take down.

But Im also torn with the KFF Mek. Such a fantastic HQ, and the KFF is the tits. So really, you could say either of those, and Id agree.

The Death Korps of Krieg have the Hades Breaching Drill--a great bargain, pointswise.

Uriah+6-7DCA+2-3Crusders. It's a big nasty mass of power weapon attacks that can survive a lot.

IG:chimera, yes a transport is a unit itself. Or I'll say rambo if I am allowed named characters.
BT: typhoon, just too cheap.
Orks: mek with kff, it saves its points worth.
BA: priests, they buff stuff well beyond the points cost.
Vanilla:Librarian, nothing he can not do.
Space wolves: Long fangs or Grey hunters.
GK: rifle dreads. Though partly this is as they are the major supply of ranged attack for the army.

Necrons: Crypteks (specifically, Harbinger of Destruction: Str 8 AP 2 36" Assault 1 for 35 pts.)

Space Wolves: Grey Hunters (point-for-point my pick for best troop unit in 40k.)

Blood Angels: Mephiston (Str 10 every turn, re-roll misses every turn, and he can fly.)

Tau: Broadsides Battlesuit (TL Str 10 72" range. The beat anti-tank in all of 40k.)

Necron spiders. 50 points 3w monstrous creature with wound alocation.

BT terminators (two specialised weapons for a 5 man squad, the option of taking furious charge or tankhunters for free and all for the same cost as regular marine termies).

For the Armies I play:

Eldar: Farseer, for sure. Eldrad is even better. The lynchpin of Eldar armies right now.

Tyranids: Tough one, between Tervigons and Hive Guard for me. I'd have to give it to Tervigons though. FNP Batteries, 6T 6W Scoring troop choice, and creates more Troops. It also buffs nearby Termgaunts depending on the Upgrades you take. An Excellent unit overall.

Necrons: Jury is still out, but I would have to give it to the Scarabs for now. They seem to do well in everyone's list, and are great at several different tasks.

Armies I play/have played (mostly have played).

CSM: Most people will say Obliterators or Plague Marines. But i've got to say the Daemon Prince, yes there big targets, easy enough to take down but I still have quite a lot of success with my Daemon Prince.
Nids: Tervigon, its either that or Hive Guard, but Tervigons are just unique and very good all round.
C:SM : TH/SS Assault Terminators. Very killy, hard to take down.
Orks: Ork Boyz, yes there are tougher units in the book, but without the Ork Boyz, Orks would be nothing.
SW: Grey Hunters, great all round troops unit, you can give them as little or as many upgrades as you can afford, and they will do a great job.
Eldar: Farseer/Eldard. Best Psykers in the game still in my eyes. Without these Eldar just aren't very good.
Daemons: Didn't use many Daemon units myself, but I would say Feinds are very good.

Monolith

Jidmah wrote:Orks is hands down the big mek with KFF. Mandatory for almost every single army build.

This Omg so much of this!

IG: The humble guardsman x as many as you can reasonably field.

or

The humble (or should that be rumble?) Leman Russ MBT x as many as you can reasonably field preferabbly with a load of guardsmen.

Banzaimash wrote:BT terminators (two specialised weapons for a 5 man squad, the option of taking furious charge or tankhunters for free and all for the same cost as regular marine termies).

Agreed, Black Templars terminators (of both flavours!) are probably the best we've got. Mind you, we do pay a symbolic sum for the veteran skills, so they're not "free" per se.

For CSM: The Dreadnought, because your opponent wants it to live almost as much as you do, just in case it decides to take out a handful of plague marines.

For Tau, Farsight - the only Power Weapon in the book.

For GK, the OM Inquisitor with a Pair of daemonblades, the closest unit you're going to get to a slot machine - mostly useless, but once in a lifetime he's a 10 wound eternal warrior that makes half a dozen ID attacks.

For Necrons, it's got to be what's his name, the guy from grand theft tank - not because he's a good unit or anything, but because he's so damned disrespectful. For a few minutes, he'll take over your weapon-destroyed rhino, even though it's not going to do a damn thing, just because he hates you.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Banzaimash wrote:BT terminators (two specialised weapons for a 5 man squad, the option of taking furious charge or tankhunters for free and all for the same cost as regular marine termies).

Agreed, Black Templars terminators (of both flavours!) are probably the best we've got. Mind you, we do pay a symbolic sum for the veteran skills, so they're not "free" per se.

They're 40pts, the same as regular SM termies. They then don't have to pay for the special rules because they're free as a result.

junk wrote:
For CSM: The Dreadnought, because your opponent wants it to live almost as much as you do, just in case it decides to take out a handful of plague marines.

For Tau, Farsight - the only Power Weapon in the book.

For GK, the OM Inquisitor with a Pair of daemonblades, the closest unit you're going to get to a slot machine - mostly useless, but once in a lifetime he's a 10 wound eternal warrior that makes half a dozen ID attacks.

For Necrons, it's got to be what's his name, the guy from grand theft tank - not because he's a good unit or anything, but because he's so damned disrespectful. For a few minutes, he'll take over your weapon-destroyed rhino, even though it's not going to do a damn thing, just because he hates you.

How can you take two Daemonblades? Aren't those a two Handed weapon?

SWOOPING HAWKS!


okay just kidding, it's shining spears all the way. Love this kind of thread...

Apparently you are able to take 2 daemonblades because you can trade out more than one weapon for one, so drop your hand weapon for one and your bolter for the other, you can only use one a turn though obv