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The weapons MajorWesJanson lists already exist for the 40k models, though - I suspect they'll be the first to appear.

RedFurioso wrote:
What Legions you expect to see in Titandeath supplement?

Huh?

Where did this rumor come from?

 schoon wrote:

RedFurioso wrote:
What Legions you expect to see in Titandeath supplement?

Huh?

Where did this rumor come from?

You been hiding under a stone? The Titandeath on Beta Garmon has been a confirmed black book for quite some time - have a scan of the OP rumour entries. It is rumoured to include expanded campaign rules, loads of extra Legions and maniple lists. As well as glorious art

 zedmeister wrote:

 schoon wrote:

RedFurioso wrote:
What Legions you expect to see in Titandeath supplement?

Huh?

Where did this rumor come from?

You been hiding under a stone? The Titandeath on Beta Garmon has been a confirmed black book for quite some time - have a scan of the OP rumour entries. It is rumoured to include expanded campaign rules, loads of extra Legions and maniple lists. As well as glorious art

hopefully ti does come out soonish. coming out along side the novel would be nice doubly so if we can order the novel and game book in one nifty pack (not likely but be awesome)

 Overread wrote:
Reavers with fists are designed to sneak and duck and get hit a few times and then strike hard in close combat. I think that their validity will vary a lot depending on the terrain and board setup you use.

If its dense with tall buildings then a reaver with close combat weapons is going to be viable because it will have cover to allow it to advance without just being ganged up on by warlords and other ranged units.

If you're playing with a lot of short terrain that might hide knights but not reavers; or you're playing on a very open battle field then a Reaver is going to find it a lot harder to get into close combat without taking damage and regretting the lack of a ranged weapon itself instead of the fist.

I will be going into this more but Fist Reavers are interesting. They are seeking to charge in close so the Vulcan is their favored carapace weapon but the Apoc can be better simply because they can shoot it while hiding.

Now the Fist Reaver Might not even care about shooting the shields on its garter as it will plan to get inside those shields anyways.

If you have followed my Titan Types, I see the Fist Reaver as a Brawler (no surprise there) and a Sweeper which means it protects the flanks and then flanks. It is a PERFECT unit to slap about an offending Warhound or two then Melta them to death allowing the knights to mop up.

Anywho, I just found this interesting.


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 Imateria wrote:
Another thing to remember, if you run Legio Gryphonicus and swap a Warhound out for a Reaver that Reaver can be upgraded so that it always gets to move and turn with it's boosted stats without pushing the reacter. Give it the move twice order it'll get across the table in a couple of turns. I made the mistake of ignoring it in my last game and it charged my warlord turn 3 and then proceeded to punch it into oblivion.

Did you take Thermal Mines with your Free Stratagem Points? You could hurt the legs with that and remove that boost


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BrianDavion wrote:


I'm painting Legio Atarus so I expect they'll get rules and I'll hate them (this is just how my luck runs)

Dont curse me like this!!! Atarus are my Loyalist legio and Legio Vulcanum are my traitors. I demo so I need dynamically different looking sources and the Olive green of Vulcanum goes well against the Red, White, and some black of Atarus

At least Atarus are going to get rules at some point as well as Knight Houses.

I'm just hoping if they give Artaus some rules their companion knigh house Col'shak actually gets detailed.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
If we are lucky we may see the “tri” legged imperial titans

If we're really lucky, that ridiculous nonsense will go back where it should have remained in the first place instead of leaking out - the dark corners of the numpty author's brain.

The Mechanicus/m doesn't need any more lazy, cringe-inducing "lul, War of the Worlds innit, geddit, cus they're Martians, geddit, geddit, haha, ain't we funny" pish, and Imperial Titans are and should remain bipedal.

What about the rare Imperial "Pogo" class bouncing Titans produced on the feudal forge world of Hippity Hoppity Prime?

Wait until he reads about the four-legged Warhound variants

 xttz wrote:
Wait until he reads about the four-legged Warhound variants

Spoiler:

that I made up just now

I've heard legends about a class of secret covert titants, they all split into smaller titans, but when the need arises, they can come together, letting their powers combine....

There was a four-legged knight, though. It was actually released for Epic.

(it was an Eldar knight...)

 xttz wrote:
Wait until he reads about the four-legged Warhound variants

Spoiler:

that I made up just now

I've already spotted a protoitype!

 zedmeister wrote:
You been hiding under a stone? The Titandeath on Beta Garmon has been a confirmed black book for quite some time - have a scan of the OP rumour entries. It is rumoured to include expanded campaign rules, loads of extra Legions and maniple lists. As well as glorious art

Apparently so.

Thanks for the refresh on that - I'd completely forgotten about it.

Eumerin wrote:
There was a four-legged knight, though. It was actually released for Epic.

(it was an Eldar knight...)

I would love for GW to bring the different Eldar Knights back in AT and 40K. They could easily get just as much as Imperial Knights. New versions of the Bright Stallions and Towering Destroyers, as well as more Wraith Knight variants that reference the old Fire gale models

People who say that a titans only focus leaves AT with too few units are silly. the potential to expand the roster is limitless, I can think of all sorts of fun ideas such as a large titan, the size of a warlord with thinner armor and a decent amount of speed, that mounts some close in weaponry, used for back alley mugging etc. a light "battle titan" the only limits are the creativity of FW. and this goes beyond just Imperial Titans too. we only have 2 (well 3 if you count the warlock as differnt) eldar titans, but they have to have more then that... and Orks well.. every Ork titan is differant, the skys the limit with the Orks. and then you have other races such as Tyranids who could really have an entire line of Bio-Titans, Necrons (who realisticly one would think would have some sort of answer to Eldar Titans) ... hell if Forge World can't think up ideas for Titans they can just hire me, I've got TONS of ideas.

Looking at FW's HH output, a lack of ideas for new stuff is probably not an issue. The game being successful enough to warrant expansion, and whether or not new stuff will be mostly via GW plastic or FW resin are the big question marks for me.

Epic had Tzeentch Silver Towers. Imagine how crazy that kit could be these days...

Eumerin wrote:
There was a four-legged knight, though. It was actually released for Epic.

(it was an Eldar knight...)

You mean the Eldar Bright Stallion?


What about tracked Knights? Like the old Warden?

Hey! I have that Warden 1, Paladin 2 and Lancer 3!

That lancer three looks like it just walked off a comics page - imagine it colored like Marvin from Looney Toons...

So many strange and weird ideas from 1E. I would like to see some titan variety, primarily in the Warhound - Reaver size. I really hope we won't see many in the Warlord+ size; that size just feels too big for regular gaming and feels like it should be the top end (though I know the Emperator is even larger, I'd rather it was just left out for now - at least until the line has a lot more "medium" sized titans to it).

I'd not be suprised to see some of those things being mined for ideas. GW's been pretty heavily mining ideas from the rogue trader era of late

BrianDavion wrote:
I'd not be suprised to see some of those things being mined for ideas. GW's been pretty heavily mining ideas from the rogue trader era of late

Most of those knights are pretty well mined so far. Paladin 1 and 2 merged are the questoris chassis. Lancer 1 and 3, especially 1, are now armigers. The carapace mount off warden 1 is on all questoris knights, warden 2 shifted into the acastus. Warden 3 seems to have merged with the epic lord of battle to become the new lord of skulls for khorne. Lancer 2 is just a very skinny death guard, and paladin 3 these days would fit in far better as part of the ork force.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
I'd not be suprised to see some of those things being mined for ideas. GW's been pretty heavily mining ideas from the rogue trader era of late

Most of those knights are pretty well mined so far. Paladin 1 and 2 merged are the questoris chassis. Lancer 1 and 3, especially 1, are now armigers. The carapace mount off warden 1 is on all questoris knights, warden 2 shifted into the acastus. Warden 3 seems to have merged with the epic lord of battle to become the new lord of skulls for khorne. Lancer 2 is just a very skinny death guard, and paladin 3 these days would fit in far better as part of the ork force.

Paladin 3 reminds me a little of a Crab, or King Crab Battlemech from Battletech.

Are there any rumors yet as to the price of Warhounds &/or when they will be up for pre-order?

The coming next month blurb in WD says "more Titans" so its probably the Warhounds. No idea on the price though.

Probably slightly more than the Reaver.

Say...$75USD.

 Mysterio wrote:
Probably slightly more than the Reaver.

Say...$75USD.

The volume of plastic is about the same as the reaver though, 3 sprues. Knowing GW they might mark it up simply cause it contains two models/units instead of one. 65-70usd would be ideal, 75 is a tad rough.

That's kind of the 'formula' I was using as well, but went high because "GW".

It would be interesting to see if there's already an existing price band in that $65 - $75USD range because that's where these will probably end up.

 Malika2 wrote:

Slightly OT but the Old School Miniatures company is doing a Kick Starter with some funky robot designs.

https://www.facebook.com/OldSchoolMinis1985/

 Mysterio wrote:
Probably slightly more than the Reaver.

Say...$75USD.

How much is the Reaver in USD? $70? (It's £35 in UK, I'm expecting 2x Warhound to be at least £40).

JWBS wrote:

 Mysterio wrote:
Probably slightly more than the Reaver.

Say...$75USD.

How much is the Reaver in USD? $70? (It's £35 in UK, I'm expecting 2x Warhound to be at least £40).

only 60 USDs

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Slightly OT but the Old School Miniatures company is doing a Kick Starter with some funky robot designs.

https://www.facebook.com/OldSchoolMinis1985/

Oh my gosh, I NEED these

But I don't see any info on their facebook page. Something coming soon, maybe? I'd Love to buy in to a range of oldschool tiny-giant-robots like this

Edit: I poked them on FB and they said it's coming next week . We'll have to get a dedicated thread for it then!