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I'd say between $60 and $75 USD is a pretty safe bet for the Warhound kit.
   
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Armigers are currently $75 for two, the Warhounds should be slightly smaller, so I’m putting my guess in at $65 for the two (or at least, crossing my fingers).

Looking at those old Lancers, I do wish we would get eagle head variants for the Armigers.

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Ah, there we have it!

Almost a guarantee to match the Armigers, I'd think.

Sadly, $75USD will probably what we get - but I'd be very happy to see it at $65, of course.

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Stockholm, Sweden

 Mysterio wrote:
Ah, there we have it!

Almost a guarantee to match the Armigers, I'd think.

Sadly, $75USD will probably what we get - but I'd be very happy to see it at $65, of course.


The Armiger boxes are 4 sprues, and from the leaked pics I think Warhounds come on 3 sprues (same size sprue). I know this is an imperfect metric, but it's something to be considered. Furthermore, I guess a bit of the cost of the base kit might be subsidized by the sale of peripherals, like terminals and those weapon cards for your terminals. I know a lot of people will print them out, but a fair amount will probably buy the real deal. The cards are like €10, so the margins have to be super high on that, and the sale of those is driven by model sales. My guess and hope is less than $75, but wouldn't be too surprised if they will cost more. I mean who knows.
   
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I think Warhounds are going to be 2 for $50 at most.

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TigerMafia wrote:
 Mysterio wrote:
Ah, there we have it!

Almost a guarantee to match the Armigers, I'd think.

Sadly, $75USD will probably what we get - but I'd be very happy to see it at $65, of course.


The Armiger boxes are 4 sprues, and from the leaked pics I think Warhounds come on 3 sprues (same size sprue). I know this is an imperfect metric, but it's something to be considered. Furthermore, I guess a bit of the cost of the base kit might be subsidized by the sale of peripherals, like terminals and those weapon cards for your terminals. I know a lot of people will print them out, but a fair amount will probably buy the real deal. The cards are like €10, so the margins have to be super high on that, and the sale of those is driven by model sales. My guess and hope is less than $75, but wouldn't be too surprised if they will cost more. I mean who knows.


I don't think the titans 'on their own' come with terminals or cards?

So that cost doesn't factor in.

GW might care about sprue count = price point, but I'd bet they use other factors more often.

We *might* actually get luck here as you *can/will* use more Warhounds than Reavers or certainly Warlords.

Remember GW's character/terminator price point 'logic'!

chaos0xomega wrote:I think Warhounds are going to be 2 for $50 at most.


I would love for you to be right, but I don't think GW is pricing them lower than a Reaver.

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Stockholm, Sweden

 Mysterio wrote:
I don't think the titans 'on their own' come with terminals or cards?

So that cost doesn't factor in.


No, you're absolutely right, but it's not the point I was making. I mean that you essentially have secondary sales that are driven by the sale of the Titan boxes. People who will want to field more than 2 of each type will "have to" get terminals and cards, on which the price point seems grossly inflated. So I'm saying selling one item at a slightly lower cost in hope that peripheral sales will generate some of the margins. Like you rope people in with a "good" price, which later ends up being a bit more pricey than initially expected.

Verrry simple analysis, and it's not a hill I'm willing to die on lol. Just my "2 cents". Less tooling, peripheral sales etc. Then, I don't know what the projected sales are. Will more people end up buying Warhounds than Armigers etc? If I had to bet, I would bet on $60-65. Not claiming I'm correct or that anyone is wrong.
   
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Oakland, CA

I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad that GW seems to be adopting the "Necromunda" release pattern on AT18.

From a gaming perspective, I want it faster, because there's so much room in the rules and miniature range for add ons.

...but my pocketbook is secretly thankful.
   
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 schoon wrote:
I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad that GW seems to be adopting the "Necromunda" release pattern on AT18.

From a gaming perspective, I want it faster, because there's so much room in the rules and miniature range for add ons.

...but my pocketbook is secretly thankful.


well once warhounds come out model wise we're semi-complete (sure new titans and knights, and xenos stuff will be ncie but not essential) so AT18 is in a good position that way

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 schoon wrote:
I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad that GW seems to be adopting the "Necromunda" release pattern on AT18.



For all you know this is already faster than Necromunda. And you don't have a rulebook supplement on release day.

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Yeah we should have the "basic" game within three months and in a fully playable state with just a single "rules" purchase. That's a huge improvement over N17 where we'll be lucky to have gotten the original core experience(the main house gangs, a complete and functional campaign system, complete trading post etc) within a year and requiring half a dozen rules purchases.

I think most folk accept they have to stagger releases to some extent, but the AT method of pushing out a complete experience within the first couple of months after launch and then adding to that experience later is far superior to N17's method of carving the original experience up into chunks over an extended period and then frantically trying to bloat them with little extras and reprints to make the rules buy-in seem like less of a ripoff.

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Depends how quickly they get the other weapons into production.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Depends how quickly they get the other weapons into production.


Exactly this. The limited weapon options on the kits is really hurting the game right now, especially as the options we do have aren't the best loadouts for the titans. (double volcano cannons isn't something I'd ever run on a warlord by choice).

We need those weapon packs by Xmas.

Edit, auto correct hates me.

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I would hope alternate weapons would be out before Christmas. That would round the year off well for AT in giving it a complete release and lead it well into next year where they might release some Forgeworld unique weapons and perhaps focus on new titan classes or even start hinting at chaos.

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Yup.

I mean, I’m not adverse to double Volcano Cannon etc, but as I’ve said before, I want to play with the different special rules, such as turning opposing Titans from the impact, or halving their movement.

That’s when I feel the game will really come into its own.

   
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the differant weapon sprues I see as something that'll likely be more "nice to have" then "need to have" but hopefully they'll come soon eneugh,

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

I do hope for the weapon sprues by the end of the year or in early 2019, but that whole issue could be a lot less of one if some of the bigger social media communities didn't have admins so utterly hostile to 3D printing stuff. It's dead easy to find a set of Warlord weapons and either print them yourself, have someone you know with a machine do it, or send them off to Shapeways or another printing service(a bit pricey, but good quality), but even discussing that in some places will get you banned, as if it's any different than someone printing off a bit of fanart to hang on their game room wall.

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If 40k is anything to go by then the Warhound models should be slightly less than twice the size of the Knights. So, maybe as tall as the current (non-Primaris) Dreadnaught or somewhere in that vicinity.


 
   
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 Breotan wrote:
If 40k is anything to go by then the Warhound models should be slightly less than twice the size of the Knights. So, maybe as tall as the current (non-Primaris) Dreadnaught or somewhere in that vicinity.



Sounds about right. We know they will be on 60 mm bases, and from the preview pics, a rough measurement would put them at between 50-60 mm in height. The highest part would reach to the section where the torso meets the lower body on the Reaver model, or about the height of a straight Warlord leg.
   
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 TigerMafia wrote:
 Breotan wrote:
If 40k is anything to go by then the Warhound models should be slightly less than twice the size of the Knights. So, maybe as tall as the current (non-Primaris) Dreadnaught or somewhere in that vicinity.



Sounds about right. We know they will be on 60 mm bases, and from the preview pics, a rough measurement would put them at between 50-60 mm in height. The highest part would reach to the section where the torso meets the lower body on the Reaver model, or about the height of a straight Warlord leg.


Nah, dude, they're 80mm, like the Deredeo.

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austinitor wrote:
 TigerMafia wrote:
 Breotan wrote:
If 40k is anything to go by then the Warhound models should be slightly less than twice the size of the Knights. So, maybe as tall as the current (non-Primaris) Dreadnaught or somewhere in that vicinity.



Sounds about right. We know they will be on 60 mm bases, and from the preview pics, a rough measurement would put them at between 50-60 mm in height. The highest part would reach to the section where the torso meets the lower body on the Reaver model, or about the height of a straight Warlord leg.


Nah, dude, they're 80mm, like the Deredeo.


Stupid me. I even have the arcs next to me and neglected to measure them. But the height of the models looks like to should come in at about 60 mm.
   
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A couple of quick items -

First, an observation. It appears that the rules came with enough weapon cards for all of the packages released to date. For instance, there are four cards for the warlord version of the volcano cannon, and two for its carapace-mounted missile launchers, which gives you enough cards to depict both titans included in the Grand Master Edition (with the basic included weapons). The reaver cards, with one of each reaver weapon, include enough to play with any combination of the weapons included in the reaver box. And then we come to the warhound. Warhounds mount two weapons each, and this titan will apparently be bundled two to a box. That's a total of four weapons. But we only have a grand total of three warhound weapons cards. And that means that the rules don't include enough cards for the warhounds included in a single box. It's not that hard to make your own cards. Cut up a 3x5 card and write on both sides, and you've got a card. But it does seem to be an odd oversight that could have easily been corrected before the rules were released.

Second, I'm curious whether anyone has magnetized the reaver arm weapons. And if you did, how did you go about doing so? There are some obvious possibilities, but the fact that the Power Fist assembly includes the upper arm while the ranged weapons do not means that you're potentially looking at using four magnets per cannon. I'm curious how others have approached this problem.
   
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Check again; the Rules Set comes with all four Warhound weapon cards. On the other hand, since you only get one of each Reaver weapons card, you can't field two Reavers at once, not with the weapons you get in the box.

As for magnetising, I jus magnetised at the shoulders. The weapons sprue does include the upper arm pieces for the gatling blaster and laser blaster, just as the Warlord weapons sprue does for the bellicose volcano cannons.

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I put a magnet in the shoulder then chopped the top off the ball joints for weapon arms and glued magnets on, pretty easy. Just be careful at what angle you cut the ball joint.
   
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 Tamereth wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Depends how quickly they get the other weapons into production.


Exactly this. The limited weapon options on the kits is really hurting the game right now, especially as the options we do have aren't the best loadouts for the titans. (double volcano cannons isn't something I'd ever run on a warlord by choice).

We need those weapon packs by Xmas.

Edit, auto correct hates me.


What is preventing folks from using “counts as” with the extant weapons, given all the stat cards ha e been released? Not the most aesthetically pleasing, but we have all the stats available, why not test drive load outs?
   
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i did putmagnets in mine by cutting the ball from yhe weapon mounts in half and putting magnets on top of the cut off ball and one inside the mounting
i even put a magnet onthe top of the weapons an underside of the weapon mount so i can change left and right weapons and equip it whit all the weapons
that are in the boxs.

i can arm them with two differend shooting weapons or two of the same shooting weapons or with powerfist and range weapon, i can even fit one witht two powerfist if i want to
have on left powerfist and one right powerfist, i have to reavers.

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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Check again; the Rules Set comes with all four Warhound weapon cards. On the other hand, since you only get one of each Reaver weapons card, you can't field two Reavers at once, not with the weapons you get in the box.

As for magnetising, I jus magnetised at the shoulders. The weapons sprue does include the upper arm pieces for the gatling blaster and laser blaster, just as the Warlord weapons sprue does for the bellicose volcano cannons.


Doh. I found my "Turbo Laser Destructor" card mixed in with the warlord cards.

As for magnetizing, skeleton has the gist of it, imo. You *can* magnetize just at the shoulders, but the upper arm piece is angled to one side instead of hanging straight down. The angling is clearly meant to allow you to represent one arm or the other, and I suspect looks a bit odd if you attach a weapon on the "wrong" shoulder. Ergo, shoulder and elbow magnets are needed, unless you have a large surplus of weapons and upper arm pieces.
   
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I bought two Reavers, and built one of each weapon for one of each arm. Easy.
   
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 Soundtheory wrote:


What is preventing folks from using “counts as” with the extant weapons, given all the stat cards ha e been released? Not the most aesthetically pleasing, but we have all the stats available, why not test drive load outs?


Many people are doing just that, I can see why some people would want to wait though.


I personally hope that they hurry up and release the warhound asap, I dont want to start painting until I have them all ready to go.
Also, there are so many people buying recast warhounds and even more printing them off from thingiverse I would not be surprised if they are missing out on sales here.
   
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 RiTides wrote:
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Slightly OT but the Old School Miniatures company is doing a Kick Starter with some funky robot designs.

https://www.facebook.com/OldSchoolMinis1985/


Oh my gosh, I NEED these

But I don't see any info on their facebook page. Something coming soon, maybe? I'd Love to buy in to a range of oldschool tiny-giant-robots like this

Edit: I poked them on FB and they said it's coming next week . We'll have to get a dedicated thread for it then!



https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/764247.page

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/882426675/osm-presents-robots-from-the-future

It's up and almost 3x funded at the moment.

 
   
 
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