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http://www.defiancegames.com/index.php/news/item/behind-the-curtainand-a-little-surprise

Thought this might interest some people.

You nerds really make us geeks look bad

winnertakesall wrote:http://www.defiancegames.com/index.php/news/item/behind-the-curtainand-a-little-surprise

Thought this might interest some people.

Hmmm

Assured Outcomes is an awesome name for a mercenary outfit.

Rbb wrote:Assured Outcomes is an awesome name for a mercenary outfit.

I can suddenly imagine enemies only pronouncing the first three letters of each word

I think it's ubercool how they actually tell ya how it's done. Seems like the only folks ever that take the time to explain the process, instead of just "yeah, the kids in china make our stuffs" like everyone else.

Looks like those marines are gonna be outclassed in regards to body armor. Those future corporations probably have more money to spend then the pentagon I suppose I wonder if the marines are meant to be the peacekeeping force in a future full of corporate wars?

jedi76 wrote:Looks like those marines are gonna be outclassed in regards to body armor. Those future corporations probably have more money to spend then the pentagon I suppose I wonder if the marines are meant to be the peacekeeping force in a future full of corporate wars?

I'd suggest you read the entire thread.

The "body armor" troops are the standards. That piece of concept art is for a "hardsuit", which is essentially the Terminator armored troops of this upcoming system: a heavily armored suit bristling with guns for extremely hazardous operations. The Marines have one, albeit not as advanced as this--but far more heavily armed.

Concept art for the USMC 'hardsuit'


As I have said before I love the SF3D/ Maschinen Krieger (Ma.K ZBV3000) 'vibe' it's got. But come on Tony, you want to ditch the reputation of WFG, this isn't the way to do it.

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:
Concept art for the USMC 'hardsuit'


As I have said before I love the SF3D/ Maschinen Krieger (Ma.K ZBV3000) 'vibe' it's got. But come on Tony, you want to ditch the reputation of WFG, this isn't the way to do it.

Emphasis mine.

Que?

MaK influence aside (which, from the original WF thread on powered armor requests, was the most popular cited design), the USMC powered armor is actually a design licensed by a professional artist: Alexander Iglesias, a.k.a. flyingdebris. Specially, this bad boy. He's also the one who did the German, and did the pose reference images from both.

Are there any updates on a possible ship date? The posted ship date was nearly 2 weeks ago

I'm pretty intrigued to see this stuff, and certainly enjoyed reading about the process.

No, there hasn't. According to this thread, things are going as planned, they're just not on schedule.

Fair enough, thanks for the info.

Xeno wrote:

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:
Concept art for the USMC 'hardsuit'


As I have said before I love the SF3D/ Maschinen Krieger (Ma.K ZBV3000) 'vibe' it's got. But come on Tony, you want to ditch the reputation of WFG, this isn't the way to do it.

Emphasis mine.

Que?

MaK influence aside (which, from the original WF thread on powered armor requests, was the most popular cited design), the USMC powered armor is actually a design licensed by a professional artist: Alexander Iglesias, a.k.a. flyingdebris. Specially, this bad boy. He's also the one who did the German, and did the pose reference images from both.

I never said the USMC 'hardsuit' was a rip-off. Infact I think compairing it to Maschinen Krieger is very high praise. I like what people can come up with kit-bashing or doing extreme conversion work with model kits. I love the look of the USMC hardsuit. It's not a feasable design to move in as the hip placment is wrong for a human being. You would have to be so bow-legged in that suit it would be almost unwearable. But I like the suit enough that I can 'suspend my disbelief' and just dig it for what it is, a bad-ass powersuit.

Personally I think that powerarmour is going to look like a landmate from appleseed where the 'wearer' sits in the chest cavity and his legs only extend into the machine's thighs. This solves alot of prolems but also opens up a whole new can of worms mainly if you have a human sitting in the chest of a robot where do you put the power source? Where do all the mechanics go, where do the computers go? Miniatureization is only going to go so far. There are so many problems to solve before this could ever become feasable. But it shure is fun to speculate on it isn't it? =o]

AlexHolker wrote:No, there hasn't. According to this thread, things are going as planned, they're just not on schedule.

Inherently Everything isn't going to plan if they are behind/off schedule.

I really want those German guns separately. They are excellent, matching the rule of cool perfectly.

I also quite like the heavy armour German dude. Will make an excellent Shock Trooper or veteran with Carapace. The helmets are damn awesome.

But once again, I *need* those guns separately. If you could make just a small sprue of each different style to sell separately (I am mostly interested in the first and second - the regular gun and the one with the grenade launcher underslung) I would be picking up a fair few of these.

Most model companies usually dont make separate guns with stocks though, mainly because with stocks it can be a challenge to model them on

I could be wrong though

Any news on release?

kenshin620 wrote:

winnertakesall wrote:http://www.defiancegames.com/index.php/news/item/behind-the-curtainand-a-little-surprise

Thought this might interest some people.

Hmmm

Hmmmmm....indeed....

Rbb wrote:Assured Outcomes is an awesome name for a mercenary outfit.

A slight twist on the original no doubt..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Outcomes

krazynadechukr wrote:

kenshin620 wrote:

winnertakesall wrote:http://www.defiancegames.com/index.php/news/item/behind-the-curtainand-a-little-surprise

Thought this might interest some people.

Hmmm

Hmmmmm....indeed....

If that's the logic we are using. those legs and shoulders are very alike. In it's nature, infantry armour is going to look vaguely similar, because the hole point is to protect the wearer, and there isn't a huge amount fo ways you can go with that one.



They look vaguely similar, but to the degree I could compare modern infantry to Imperial Guard.

nihil novi sub sole....(there is nothing new under the sun)


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Ok, after keeping an eye on this post for a while now and only seeing rare updates I've got to ask Defiance: When the hell are you actually going to release anything for sale? Its alright posting stuff for feedback and all, but there comes a time when you have to put your money where your mouth is! So when will they be appearing in shops?

Slipstream wrote:Ok, after keeping an eye on this post for a while now and only seeing rare updates I've got to ask Defiance: When the hell are you actually going to release anything for sale? Its alright posting stuff for feedback and all, but there comes a time when you have to put your money where your mouth is! So when will they be appearing in shops?

This may be taken wrong but, you realize that Dakka is not the sum of the internet or even tabletop gaming, right? They've never actually posted anything on Dakka as far as I know. Some people copied things from their website; I recommend you look there by googling "Defiance Games" where there are numerous updates and even an online store to buy the Marines which are available for sale.

The Warstore has their marines for sale the last I checked.

Hi Agnosto, and no I've not taken your response the wrong way at all, infact I welcome your news that you can actually buy their products! It was just that whoever was posting the info(and I'd think that the person who provided the majority of it seemed to be 'well in' with the manufacturer to do so) and yet the majority of it was just concept drawings and no real impression of anything progressing beyond that! I mean how many more concepts do we need?
I'm now going to head over to the warstore/defiance to see what's what.

I do not believe they have been released yet. I preordered some directly and have not received them yet

Yeah, the models aren't for sale yet. They dropped some news today showing some of the tooling process: http://defiancegames.com/index.php/news/item/update-update-update-marines-in-sight

Im okay with waiting a little longer, since bad minis are bad forever, while we won't remember a couple month delay down the road.

Huh. Well, I owe an apology for being wrong. I think I'd be royally irked if I had paid money with the understanding of an earlier release only to be constantly put on hold. On the other hand, it's good that they're supplying status reports of a sort even though they haven't even said how soon, "soon" is.

I hope they at least kick in a sprue or two for those that pre-paid months ago and have been waiting.

Very tiny picture of the back of the box on Facebook today:

I really like what Defiance is doing.. Models are made here in the US instead of China... and they actually tell you what's going on and how they're making stuff instead of keeping everything secret...

One thing I learned the hard way just getting my own miniatures made is everything takes a heluva long time. For me, it was like 3 months to get my first figure released from the day the sculptor started till the day I finally had the final product in my hands ready for sale. About a month of that time was just me waiting for stuff to ship all over the place at different stages. I'd bet getting new plastic models started from scratch would take much longer too, seems like there's so much more involved.