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 Darth Bob wrote:

The one issue about the way you're doing it, is that, unlike my friend's, you haven't changed the look of the boots. The legs look like power armor until you get to the feet, and in my opinion, they look derpy.

I don't agree with the derpy boots thing. In fact, I kind of like the booted wolves! I agree with JPaint, it doesn't really make sense from a fluff perspective, but I like the look, and it works with the pelts/teeth/runes imagery. Let's see some paint!

 J-paint wrote:
Welcome darth bob! Thanks for commenting, please feel free to steal away, the internet is one big creative soup.

That is a very nice word bearer's army!

As for the boot thing, I do see where your coming from, and I appreciate in reality It would be ridiculous for them to wear either boots OVER their armour or just boots, but I was going for a very tribal look for them, I'm not a massive fan of the rounded feet on space amrines anyway so I thought it might be passable, I intend to armour them up a bit more, add something that marks them out as being a bit more high tech. But thanks for the link and the comment, I will try GSing a normal SM foot on one of them just as a comparison.

Honestly, if you're not keen on the armor thing, some rivets and Space Wolf iconography (maybe even some wolf clawed-toes on the boots) would make them look a bit high-tech.

Thanks Rawson, the boots are impractical but characterful! Paint will be on the way soon, I've spent today making the rest of the squad, will put some pics up when I'm finished with the GS work.

And Good ideas Darth, The rivets in particular will help it look like boots ON TOP of armour, (for whatever crazy reason) I'll give that a go.

More to come later guys.

Good morning all, so here are all of my space wolves before priming, I may do something to their boots like darth said, but it depends how lazy I am feeling! The look I was going for was more tribal than viking, but I couldn't resist the massive axe! All in all I'm fairly pleased and just hope my greenstuff work looks OK with paint.

Just had a look through this thread and all I can say is "wow". Brilliant work dude, really liking the Valhallans and the Crows.

Bunch o' chunky, fuzzy boyz you got there JP.... very Norse. I like 'em! Nice work on the sculpting too. Gives them some added "beef" that I think is very appropriate.

 J-paint wrote:

Wow this is fantastic, definitely one of the best guardswomen I've ever seen.

Subbed!

interesting stuff you have there J-paint.

I'll be watching with keen interest!

so officialy my favortie valhallens, and now my favorite space wolves, I really like the tribal masks!

I really like the truescaling you've done on your Wolves. I don't think it would work for any other chapter (I think you mentioned that), but looks great on these guys!

On te other hand, the skull masks I really don't like. The concept is okay, but the execution was not so hot (I've given you tons of encouragement, so I think some frank CC is ok ) Main problem: most don't line up well (i.e. Can't see out of them), If you got the alignment better, they might work ok, but I think you would be better off just sculpting your own. You've got the talent to do it

Keep up the great work!
Rawson

i am with rawson on the skullmasks here...they look a bit too much wanted without really fitting ...

also the last fella... the one on the left with those two holes in his mask....sorry... but he looks more like porky pig than the ruffian wolfen...

the other conversions tho make a cool and very fluffy look!!!

Jpaint...why have you betrayed the guard way?! why is there now great looking wolves...i love the mask with just 2 holes in it.

by the way... you made front page with one of your vlahallans!!! well deserved i have to add!

i sent him a congratz, but he needs another.

Love those wolves, so ferocious and raw!

Ive always liked the whfb chaos TS, and youve done them great justice!

Wow thanks for all the feedback guys, REALLY appreciated!

@Elnibbus - Thanks for commenting man, If you continue as you are at the moment though my guard wont hold a candle to yours!

@Gits - Lol thank you, the cloaks really help to bulk them out!

@A Kvlt ghost - Thank you! that is very high praise indeed, very simple though, just a wood elf head on a regular body!

@Anunearthlychilde - Thanks very much!

@Rogue Wolves - Lol cheers, The masks seem to have split opinion, but I'm glad you like them!

@Rawson - Lol don't worry you ave VERY much entitled to some criticism bearing in mind the constant support you've given! I do totally see what you mean about the unallignment, I have taken your advice and tried to tweak one or two of the more 'unalligned' ones to get the eyes lined up ok, this first guy I haven't but I didn't think he was TOO far off so I thought it would be passable, I'll let the judges decide!

@Vik - As I said to Rawson I totally see where your coming from and have tried to make some of them 'fit' a bit better, I'm not sure if I have succeeded! Lol at the mask guy comment! He will officially be known as Mr Pig now. Thanks for alerting me to the front page thing! It's an honour!

@Comradepanda - Fear not, I am just doing this squad of wolves and maybe a character then I will return to the guard in full force! I'm glad you like the mask. And thank you for the congratulations, very pleased I mananged to get there!

@Vit - Raw? good! Thats the sort of look I was going for, and having said that I'd seen it before I;ve looked into it, didn't realise how many amazing things people have done using the same base as a conversion, there are some gorgeous black templars I saw done a similar way....Must resist!


Right so for an update, I have finished my LEAST favourite of the wolves to check the colours worked well and to get some practice, I used some of the techniques on chipping and it was a mixed experience, (read: I dont think I did it right,) THe black on top of the chips seems to have worked well, but when i used the armour highlight under it seems to make it look like a gradual transition, not sure why...or even if that makes sense. I also have got a pic of him next to a valhallan to show you the scale. Enjoy:

Your Space Wolves look damn good. I love the little bits of conversion work and kitbashing you've done, especially the wooden shield!

Green for the green god!

I very much like the more weathered approach you are heading towards now, always been my preferred style. Now all you need are some weathering powders

wow... that SW is looking damn fine... the right shoulderpad needs some more realistic loking scratches tho... but the clooak is the bee´s knees... totally awesome...and may i say...bone is your thing... looks very good!

He will officially be known as Mr Pig now

oh my...what have i done^^

I just love the way those are turning out!

@Mrmerlin - Thanks merlin, yeah the shield grew on me after I put it there, its a bit impractical, (not exactly going to stop a bullet) but I figured he might keep it more for smashing in skulls etc!

@Vit - The green is unavoidable it seems! And thank you, I'm definately leaning more towards the weathering now, its alot more satisfying, as for weathering powders, it wont be long now, i've already been eyeing some up, got any reccomendations?

@Vik - For the shoulder pad do you mean HIS right or our right? If its HIS right you might have seen his symbol marking thing as scratches, for which I can understand, need to make that clearer, It was meant to be a sorta tribal symbol. If you meant OUR right, then I agree, Its a bit too regular and rounded patterns.

@Gits - Thanks gits =]

Eh i just use FW, but theyre all the same really. MIG are the most professional, and have the largest range iirc. Secret Weapon Miniatures do some good ones too. Im pretty sure AK Interactive also sell some, or if they dont their other weathering products are fantastic.

nono... his right was meant and now that you explain it that this is infact a tribal rune... i see what you mean... the other one is quite nice i think...

J-paint that wolf makes me happy that they are few. They are too sexy to be a army.

Those SWs are looking totally badass, J-paint! My only concern (which has stumped my own converting a few times) is that the poor dude with the wooden shield probably isn't going to get much use out of it. It could be petrified Fenrisian wood, but bolter fire will still eat away at it so quick. Regardless, they all look boss. The painted one looks great and the upscale works so well next to your guardsmen.

Your Valhallans are obviously very nicely done. However, that Space Wolf with the Skull mask is awesome. Captures the barbaric nature of the Space Wolves better than I have seen.

- Martok

@Vit- I'm bought a couple from forgeworld to play around with, will see how I get on!

@Vik - Sorry yeah, not a very CLEAR tribal rune

@Comradepanda - Lol! That is a very unique compliment format you have right there panda!

@Moltar - Thanks very much! I totally know what you mean about the shield though, see what I wrote to Mrmerlin about it, (basically that he might just smack people with it!) I thought I would include one though because you can't have tribal vikings without big shields!

@Martok - Thanks very much! And that one is my LEAST favourite of the bunch! Hopefully the others will live up to the high expectations now in place


So this post is especially dedicated to Vik for his kind donation of the bodies for these guys! The Crows are now officially large enough to be a command group (maybe). Following you guys' recommendation I have chipped these guys to match the rest of my guard, The silver chips unfortunately don't show as well against the grey, I tried outlining the chips in black but it looked to OTT. I played around with a few things on these guys and one of these was the blood on the banner guy's arm, it was a few different layers of red and then after I matt varnished I went back over it with gloss, Hence it looking shiny, not a golden deamon technique but pretty effective nonetheless, As always feel free to pick holes in these, you are far too kind to me I'm sure!

actually i think these are your emotional strongest creations ever... the red against the grey is looking totally strong!

the wound on the banner bearer looks hurting! the banner... legio corvi...good call!

the white hemlet for the medic... all these nice lil details add up to an awesome command group... outstanding in every sense of the word...the flask with the medic by the way is a nicew gesture towards all the RPG players out there... so diablo!!

i like them! and i don´t know a thing to say where you lack about them... maybe only in numbers....you need to make more

Wow! Haven't been on for a few days and almost two pages of goodness. I know it is a while back now but some comments on the tank. I'm not keen on the hatch that is bare metal, it is in my opinion a missed opportunity for lots of wear and tear on the paint work as it will be constantly being opened and shut and clambered in and out of. Some one else mentioned it but I spotted it too, mould lines on the spare fuel tank. You seem quite good with green stuff, how about trying the welded joins technique from the book, I'm thinking especially at the front where the plates don't meet so well. On the exhausts I assuming that the effect is supposed to be rust, I think it is a little heavy maybe go back and streak some of the original colour up into it to thin the effect out some what, add some weathering powder (if you don't have powder make some by shaving pastels from an art shop, just as effective). Over all I really like it but you said be harsh!
The space wolves are great and fit in really well with the Valhallans as an allied force. The marauder legs are inspired and don't seem too out of place and the extra height is much more realistic for True Scale marines. I've been doing a few of my own wolves, pop on to my misc modelling blog in my sig to check them out. As usual lots of modelling goodness to be had on here!

That command squad made my jaw drop. I picked back up off a air plane! Well done man, i take my hat off to that wound! it looks realistic and well done. The grey is nice and solid and the painting is good. I love the squad, well done.