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Yeah, sounds like he's getting tons of business and expanding to meet demand, which is great for the long run.

A link I saw on the comments on the RBG KS section.

http://sonsoftaurus.blogspot.se/2012/12/various-things-red-box-unboxing-dungeon.html

grefven wrote:
A link I saw on the comments on the RBG KS section.

http://sonsoftaurus.blogspot.se/2012/12/various-things-red-box-unboxing-dungeon.html

Very nice to put up that info. Nice to see that the sculpting has for the most part been translated well, but some of those pictures are a bit amazing (not in a good way);





That is some crazy flash on those shields. The round shields are similarly concerning, albeit in the other direction (overly thin, that is);



They are actually transparent in places...

Very nice,

I didn't realise there was going to be variety in the armoured shields so even more pleased with the large number I ordered


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and thanks for posting the spot


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actually I don't think the 'blocks' of flash on the heavy armour shields are much of a problem (on a plastic/non brittle resin figure)

They've on a flat smooth surface so easy to remove with a sharp knife, and I'd rather do it myself slowly & carefully rather than have it done by the caster

the round shields, yup that's an issue where there's an actual hole (thin goes away on painting, LOL)

They look pretty good. I have noticed, though, that all this going to cheaper materials by companies in general hasn't resulted in cheaper prices (for example, I'm about to buy the new pyre troll sculpt, which is $4 more than the old, from Privateer Press... and restic instead of metal. However, it's a new design and bigger, both probably made possible by the new material).

The quality looks pretty good, although again if you're paying close to metal prices (not necessarily through the Kickstarter, but normally) I guess it should be!

 RiTides wrote:
They look pretty good. I have noticed, though, that all this going to cheaper materials by companies in general hasn't resulted in cheaper prices

Yeah, looks like that particular sales point of Trollforged might only apply to Ed's stuff, as everyone else is sticking with the same prices. I'm dubious about the shields, to be honest. I certainly hope I don't get ones that are so thin to be transparent, as that means they will be flimsy as hell. Also not sure about the huge casting blocks on them being able to be removed without destroying the details. I'll have to wait and see on that.

Fairly certain Red Box is dropping a ton in price. 5 Gynnade Krigare were $40 in metal, and during the KS you got the special KS price of $18/rank which IIRC was ~20% off; so my guess is that retail will be 5 for $25. So in the end the MSRP will have dropped 35%ish. But disclaimer, obviously I am not Tre and I don't know what the final price point will be.

That will be good if it happens. It'll also make Tre pretty much unique in this regard..

And it would make a lot of his stuff crazy affordable

I am in for his Assimilation Alien Host, and for the amount I am paying I am getting a hell of a lot of not-tyranid miniatures. I actually wondered how he could afford to do this, but apparently he can so who am I to question?

One of my favorite miniatures of all-time is the goblin riding the warbear. I really hope he sculpts more goblins riding things, possibly for the next KS! I'm actually hoping Tre is sculpting new stuff right now, secretly

The goblins are no longer available atm, right?

 judgedoug wrote:
One of my favorite miniatures of all-time is the goblin riding the warbear. I really hope he sculpts more goblins riding things, possibly for the next KS! I'm actually hoping Tre is sculpting new stuff right now, secretly

He's mentioned getting ready for a new kickstarter and I believe he said he was sculpting in the lull between getting greens to the caster. I think he also talked about sculpting some Zombie Apocalypse modern survivor types over on frothers.

Yeah, a lot of stuff is OOP right now. Tre had initially planned to start a new KS in mid-Nov, but (luckily?) those plans were nixed by the delays this one has had. There will be another one soon, though..

yep another one coming up soon.

I am sculpting righ tnwo but I am workign on a totally new fantasy project that I have dyign to get on to for years. It won't take over ALL of my time and effort over the long term but it is doign so right now outside of KS fulfillment.

Teh round shields...... yeh there is an issue with those shields beign too thin. Not all of them are so I am going though tryign to pick out all of them that are unacceptable. I will be remaking that item I think, sooner rather than later.

The flash on this stuff is RIDICULOUSLY easy to remove. Really. The blocks that hold the kite shields are situated in such as way that you can just snap them off of their sprue with no damage what-so-ever. I would be doing it myself but it would only make packing them more difficult and time consuming and also increase the rate of mispacks.

Post KS pricing...... yes there is a dramatic drop in costs and that will translate directly to retail pricing to consumers. I am still fiddlign with number stryign to find the most ideal arrangement but Doug's assessment is about bang on right. Reducing prices to customers was the original idea in this entire effort after all! Hopefully this time there won't be any major competing campaign to interrupt the flow of funding to retool.

Thanks for the thoughts, Tre.

Yeah, it's still a manual process like casting metal figures - labor is a very high cost in manufacturing. Reducing the cost of materialsl certainly will offering you a good savings but isn't a magic thing to make everything super cheap. Basically what we're seeing is a replacement material to bring the cost of miniatures down to the level of about ten years ago, since tin/pewter is ridiculously expensive now.

Keeping all fingers crossed that Tre has the goblins in the next KS... some of my favorite miniatures of all time...

Yep Goblins are planned as part of the next KS. ;o)

I will probably start it off with the Aenglish and then move to goblins and then to infernals, and from there to Dwarves, and then on to the Aelfar. The Njorn will be a KS of their own later this year as I want to completely fill out the range entirely and I think the best way to do that is with a dedicated campaign.

Just for a little insight, the price for the metal Gynnade Krigare was too low to begin with. The new price will still be lower than ideal BUT the volume in which the figures sold through the KS campaign negates the a lot of the financial burden that determines the pricing of any given figrue or set of figures.

So the KS enabled an economy of scale, allowing you to offer the figures, in the end, a little lower than if there hadn't been a KS in the first place?

and I am going to give you all of my money for your goblins, btw. Especially if there's cavalry.

So is there any rough idea on when you'll be getting the last of the figures back so they can start to be sent out? I have wolves and Varp, but no Helriders.

Yeah, it'd be good to hear an ETA.

I'm curious if the new campaign will feature "ranks" to be able to use your models for units, but I'm guessing it will be more of re-casting the current/former metals as plastics, which would mean the existing sculpts (single miniatures, no ranks).

any chance the second KS will offer some of the models from this one for rewards? Still kicking myself for not finding some budget

I'd hope so as well. I ran out of money and would have liked to get some riders. I believe Alph also expressed a similar interest...

Well, they'll be available for retail sale as soon as he gets all the casts. I am kicking myself for not adding another hundred bucks to my pledge. I "need" several more units...

The Goblins are already in ranks - there was, what, 6 sculpts of the spearmen, 12 of the warp-goblins, 6 of the bows, and a bunch of characters... I own 50-some of Tre's goblins and can't wait to get another giant pile of them.

Could you post some pics? I haven't seen them and they're not on his site now.

@judgedoug: You're making me all excited! I managed to snag a Bonebacks Multipack D from the FRPgames sale, recently, from the End of the World sale. I can't find anything at all about it, so I don't even know what's in it, but I know it has goblins!

Here's a shot of the warp boneback goblins, and the normal goblins, and then a Mantic goblin for scale.

and here's some of the characters next to a KoW goblin for scale. the goblin on warbear is one of my favorite sculpts of all time.


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sorry for the craptastic cellphone pics.

Alright, I'm convinced that I need that goblin on warbear model. I am more stoked than ever for Tre's next campaign!

Also, does anybody know what is in the Bonebacks Multipack D? Sorry to ask, I just don't know what I'm getting and curiosity is killing me (it doesn't get here for another week or two)

Multipack D should be all of the bonebacks (12 i think) irrc.


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Should be this:
http://www.wampstore.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=69_77&product_id=420