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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Hollow wrote:
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What were they even saying this in response to? I couldn't even tell, this thread has been pretty civil IMO


I'm not 100% certain, but it might be because someone dared to criticise GW?

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

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 Dysartes wrote:
 Gene St. Ealer wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Hollow wrote:
God Dakka is a cesspit sometimes.


GoD DaKkA iS a CeSsPiT SomEtiMes


What were they even saying this in response to? I couldn't even tell, this thread has been pretty civil IMO


I'm not 100% certain, but it might be because someone dared to criticise GW?


Sounds about right.
   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
 Thargrim wrote:
So they didn't slip a plastic varghulf into the army.....bummer. This army seems too focused on named characters for my liking. As opposed to having my own generic leaders that I create my own lore for.


The Varghulf is a FEC unit now.


Except the one in Cursed City that's Soulblight but comes bundled with 500 points of other crap.


That’s a Vargskyr, completely different


I think it's just icelandic for low-fat Varghulf


I really hate that name, Vargskyr. It sounds so stupid in Icelandic.

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IHateAoS wrote:
 Brutus_Apex wrote:
Those are two very cool vampire torso’s that could have been great models if they were just normal vampires.

What a waste.


I agree, some of the best armoured vampires GW have made, completely ruined by the lower body. They look way too big for leg conversions too.


Well, depending on the sizing, if you make your own legs for those two torsos, you've got some good Inquisitor models. Add a head to the lower half and your got yourself a plastic Varghulf.

I like vampire babushka on the wolf and the dire wolves.

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 Albertorius wrote:
Danny76 wrote:
To me after reading all the comments about splitting them.
If you look at her waist up only, yeah just looks like a normal vampire.
And the bottom half literally has shoulders that come in to the waist.
Should easily be able to make that two models if the skirt piece doesn’t attach to the shoulders of the beast too badly..

Yeah, that's kind of the only fix I see to that model: find a decent head ad two sets of legs suitable.


As a mainly Fantasy collector I do like to keep track of the latest AOS releases for anything that can be fit in somewhere, or has conversion or proxy potential. Those models are interesting alright..I'd share the consensus that they are like 2 models fitted on to each other. The Vampire torsos are excellent sculpts. Quite like the Dire Wolves...surprisingly understated.

As far as suitable legs go I'm wondering would the scale match up to Nagash as that could be a very decent work around? The legs on the Nagash kit are also fairly easy to convert too.

On a side note has it been mentioned that the Radukarr model reveal, combined with GW's silence, really feels like potential planned Cursed City expansions were actually in the pipeline but have been scrapped at short notice? Just came across like that when I saw it in the reveal earlier.

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Billicus wrote:
 BertBert wrote:
God, these Vamptaurs are hideous. The upper halves are solid but they just look tacked onto the lower part. It just doesn't work at all.


Agreed. I really like the top halves, but I don't need a legless vampire with a giant bat monster stuck up their bum.

I am thinking of taking blood knight legs, using the upper torso of the new lords, and turning their beast half into a monster they can ride.


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 DaveC wrote:
Here's the SBGL army pic it's just more skeletons at the back probably the hobby teams work



What is right behind the bell on the corpse cart?

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I really like the weird vampire-centaur-beast things. They look bizarre... like vampires in an Age of Sigmar setting should probably look. About the only thing I'm "eh" on is Grandma Wolfrider.
   
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The Vengorian looks like two fantastic looking models that are slapped on top of each other. With a bit of modelling skill this might be three models in one kit, using left over pieces.

The Direwolves are alright but not exciting.

Radukar looks a lot better than he does in Cursed City, which is saying something. For those who missed that game, this model goes a little way to making up for it.

I shall be getting the Witch Hunters for an AoS solo-coop campaign, but sadly there is no Vargskyr or updated Varghulf for them to do battle with.

Is Kragnos anything to do with Skaeth’s Wild Hunt, from Beastgrave? Very lookie-likely.


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 Albertorius wrote:
Holy feth, that Radukar seems designed by Rob Liefeld!


Hah! That's the best part, he'll fit right in with my nascent Space Wolf's army. I bought the Cursed City mini to convert into Wolf Lord; but now I must by the "wolfed out" model for a wulfen version of the Wolf Lord. A win, win really. Hell I probably by granny-wolf as well. I won't ever use them in my Vampire Army, but I do like them alot.

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Since there was no mention of it today, I think we now know that Saturday will be the AoS 3.0 reveal. Not that I don’t want an AoS 3.0, but I’m saddened that it probably won’t be something cool like new Horus Heresy.

I suppose there’s still a chance it might not come yet and they wait until Broken Realms Kragnos actually releases. That way AoS 3.0 can be the focus all its own. Plus they are just so, so behind with a ton of other stuff.

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My God! Why is gw this useless? They remake blood knights in an awesome way and then they don't follow through with blood knight characters?
Instead they give us weird vampire centaurs?! Who designed that crap? Jeez....
   
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Megavamp which I am so-so on. The shoulder-to-waist joint doesn't work for me, and I just feel like there is not enough visual coherency between the two halves. Having more of the upper body exposed and some of the lower body armored in the same style would help a great deal IMO.

Love everything else. Especially those dire wolves, those look fantastic. I also like the character-heavy focus of Soulblight as it preserves vampires as being exclusively badass. I would raise criticism about too many named and not enough generic but with megavamp as a dual-build that fills the gap for me. Though not having a horse-mounted vampire as a 'hero blood knight' is a glaring omission. Could've even been a dual-build from the kit.

Definitely digging Kragnos as a new Destruction demigod. Really enjoying that he's a god-tier character who started off as just a mortal in the Realms. Up until now that space has largely been reserved for elves from the Old World. I don't think he seems bland, I think he isn't oversculpted with details kept contained and not covering every surface of the model. I can see that criticism, though only after others have pointed it out. Personal taste, I guess. I find that his miniature is simple and straightforward--very appropriate for Destruction. I do wish his scenic base was more detailed though, for the god of earthquakes a big blank rock with some cracks doesn't really do it.

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Kragnos does nothing for me. It doesn't tie in with any of the destruction ranges so its just a really big centaur. The paint scheme is by no means bad but the proportions are taking it dangerously close to "toy" territory over being a miniature.

By contrast I need to see the Vamptaur in the flesh. Initial thoughts were "that's incredibly stupid" - but I'm moving swiftly "nah, its just weird, possibly even kind of cool". Sort of liking them more with every look.

I can sort of see the complaints about the Vampires being all special characters - but to a degree I'm not that bothered. That just seems something you have to get over.
   
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Question for those who watched the whole stream; did we get confirmation that Soulblight are their own battletome and not LoN 2.0? The circumstantial evidence for it not being a replacement is quite piled up at this point but it would still be nice to have a definite answer.

Quasistellar wrote:
Since there was no mention of it today, I think we now know that Saturday will be the AoS 3.0 reveal. Not that I don’t want an AoS 3.0, but I’m saddened that it probably won’t be something cool like new Horus Heresy.

I suppose there’s still a chance it might not come yet and they wait until Broken Realms Kragnos actually releases. That way AoS 3.0 can be the focus all its own. Plus they are just so, so behind with a ton of other stuff.
I hope so. I just can't bring myself to trust GW not to create as many (or more) problems with 3rd as they eliminate from 2nd. While it has some rough edges and the balance is (as always) horrid, at the end of the day 2nd is fun. It is a very enjoyable ruleset. I find myself flashing back to the end of 5th edition 40k, where the new edition created as many problems as it solved and just wasn't quite as much fun to play.
   
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 Scottywan82 wrote:


What is right behind the bell on the corpse cart?


That appears to be more of the same Skeletons that are in the foreground. On a side note; that Corpse Cart appears to be missing one of its lanterns.

Might end up using the vampire-centaur-thing for a conversion. An experiment of a Dark Eldar Haemonculus perhaps? Not sold on the rest of the new stuff, so that saves me some money.
   
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Way to phone it in, GW.



   
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Kragnos looks "meh" to me. Doesn't live up to his billing.

The Mother of Nightmares & her alternative build, I have mixed feelings on. Can't decide if the lower half fits or not, but the top half is fantastic. Were I a Soulblight player I might try to just use the top half as part of a normal vamp.

Guessing this means AOS3 will be Saturday, which will be interesting to see. I hope the 40k days are a little more impressive than Monday's session.

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Dire wolves are certainly a big step up; about time those were updated. Shame the swarms from Cursed City won't get a separate release apparently, would have been a great set of undeady creatures. The wolves are certainly the highlight of the event though...

The vampire centaur things feel like another case of GW wanting to do something original just for the sake of it. Scrolling down, it quickly went from "oh ye..." to "...eezus christ why, just why??" The inconsistency between the parts is so large even the two loincloths don't remotely match in style.

Other characters, meh. Not my cup of tea, but could be fun for other purposes.

Overall, it feels like GW saved me a lot of money there. Vampire release was looking awfully tempting especially with the chosen (/retained) aesthetic, but now I should be done with a box of wolves and maybe the Wight King (if he fits in with the older plastics scale-wise).

Kragnos isn't a bad sculpt or design by any means, but he neither fits with any models in the faction he's supposed to be part of, nor really feels unique enough to warrant a new entity. There are Dragon Ogres, Centigors Chaos Dwarf Bull Centaurs and Kurnothi as highly similar concepts already. So much so that people were largely expecting him to be one of those. Nice in isolation, but pretty generic and unnecessary within this context.
   
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GW really needs to understand "Less is more" when it comes to AoS.

Games Workshop are not your friends. They are not a small dev trying their best. They are a multibillion dollar company making calculated decisions about how many costs they can cut, how lazy they can be about relases, and how much they can paywall. They will do it again. Stop giving them money for this. 
   
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To be fair, Kragnos isn't meant to fit in with the factions. He's the last of his kind, the Destruction factions are just following in his wake it seems.
   
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The Old Lady Vampire is my least favorite of this bunch.

Werewolf Vamp is good.

Vamptaurs Im undecided on.

All in all the army is mostly a pass for me other than the Blood Knights. I like keeping the old theme of Vampire Counts with some new stuff. but I wanted something more Vampire focused.
   
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Love them all. Kragnos is remarkably restrained design-wise.

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In terms of releases, they are the most WHFB I have seen of AoS. Which I like a lot. They are a good blend of old and new. The direwolves and the skellingtons which we've already seen look superb. A nice looking release over all, be interesting to see what tomorrow brings.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
To be fair, Kragnos isn't meant to fit in with the factions. He's the last of his kind, the Destruction factions are just following in his wake it seems.


Funny thing is he'd fit great with models from two other Grand Alliances


This whole wave feels like someone just gave up halfway through designing it.

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I was fine with the models but updated Lizardmen would get me 100% into looking into AoS, assuming 3.0 fixes the balance issues (likely not).

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 Kanluwen wrote:
To be fair, Kragnos isn't meant to fit in with the factions. He's the last of his kind, the Destruction factions are just following in his wake it seems.


But that's just some nonsense GW made up and they didn't have to. An army being visually incoherent looks bad even if you have some fluff to justify it. Kragnoss should have some beastly buddies to go with him.

But it is weird. There are Beast of Chaos, which have thematically and visually very similar things. Kragnos is basically a giant centigor that doesn't look like total crap. And of course GW recently introduced the Kurnothi, which have centaurs and riff on the beast theme too. Some sort of primal beast creature faction would be cool, but GW has the design elements spread in three differnt armies that all belong to three differnt grand alliances... It's very confused.


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 Lord Damocles wrote:
Is there any lore reason for why vampires are giants now? They all look really huge compared to the skeletons and zombies around them.


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IHateAoS wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
Is there any lore reason for why vampires are giants now? They all look really huge compared to the skeletons and zombies around them.


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Nope. Don't see it. Everyone knows that humans that become vampires somehow become even larger than genetically modified super soldiers.

Seriously though, for some reason, the Cursed City humans were also massive, compared to other models. Maybe people in Shyish are just massive

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