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So here's an idea for a list I might try to run....

Stormlord, maybe Destoryer Lord.
(Or possibly 2 generic lords with solar pulses.)

3 C'tan Shards

5 Man Immortal Squads
Warriors in ghost arc?

3 squads of 6 wraiths.
And if there are still points, perhaps some Monoliths.


This is all very tentative, but I think people understand the basic point. That is, Night fight to get close, omnomnom the rest.

BSent wrote:3 C'tan Shards

I've been contemplating c'tan spam lately...

Does anybody happen to know yet if you could have a squad of 5x lychguard with warscythes and in the same unit have 5x lychguards with shields/swords?

I can't fathom taking 3 c'tan, mostly because i have the 2 sculpts and I don't feel like buying a duplicate sculpt. However, 2 c'tan and a medium/large squad of lycheguard marching up behind a monolith can be formidable.


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Cryage wrote:Does anybody happen to know yet if you could have a squad of 5x lychguard with warscythes and in the same unit have 5x lychguards with shields/swords?

No, it's been stated by Yakface multiple times that lychguard must all be equipped identically.

^^ Ahhh thats too bad, oh well Was hoping for some fun wound allocation

tetrisphreak wrote:I can't fathom taking 3 c'tan, mostly because i have the 2 sculpts and I don't feel like buying a duplicate sculpt. However, 2 c'tan and a medium/large squad of lycheguard marching up behind a monolith can be formidable.

Build one yourself. The C'tan shards have no model, make anything. I'm waiting for the first one using the phantom zone glass window thingy from Superman.

tetrisphreak wrote:
No, it's been stated by Yakface multiple times that lychguard must all be equipped identically.

I know, and that really sucks too. If it could be a combination of the 2, it would be really great. I don't want them to die at the first plasma cannon that looks at them, but I don't want them to be stuck at strength 5 either.

Strength 5 is pretty good vs most infantry. Our tank-hunting should be done by shooty units anyhow, really. I'll take the extra survivability afforded by the shields at the loss of wounding on a 2+ (because we'll wound meq's on 3+ instead...not terrible at all)

tetrisphreak wrote:I can't fathom taking 3 c'tan, mostly because i have the 2 sculpts and I don't feel like buying a duplicate sculpt. However, 2 c'tan and a medium/large squad of lycheguard marching up behind a monolith can be formidable.

That would certainly be really cheesy though...I mean, yes, some codices are definitely cheesy by default and Necrons are unlikely to be top tier even with the new codex, but the image of a monolith with a bunch of followers in his trail certainly isn't the first image that comes to my mind when I think of a Necron army

No offense, it might certainly be a viable and effective tactic, but when I want to play cheesy, I could have just started playing GK instead of Necrons.

tetrisphreak wrote:Our tank-hunting should be done by shooty units anyhow, really.

Do not forget about our lovely little friends.

BSent wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:
No, it's been stated by Yakface multiple times that lychguard must all be equipped identically.

I know, and that really sucks too. If it could be a combination of the 2, it would be really great. I don't want them to die at the first plasma cannon that looks at them, but I don't want them to be stuck at strength 5 either.

Just have Nemesor Zandrekh give them furious charge.

tetrisphreak wrote:Strength 5 is pretty good vs most infantry. Our tank-hunting should be done by shooty units anyhow, really. I'll take the extra survivability afforded by the shields at the loss of wounding on a 2+ (because we'll wound meq's on 3+ instead...not terrible at all)

Out of the 2, the shields are definitely the best, especially with them being able to "reflect" shots. That being said, if you could have 1-2 warscythes in there, it would turn a good unit into a great one.

SoulGazer wrote:

BSent wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:
No, it's been stated by Yakface multiple times that lychguard must all be equipped identically.

I know, and that really sucks too. If it could be a combination of the 2, it would be really great. I don't want them to die at the first plasma cannon that looks at them, but I don't want them to be stuck at strength 5 either.

Just have Nemesor Zandrekh give them furious charge.

And put the bodyguard and a lord in there for some str 8 power weapons on a charge

Swara wrote:

SoulGazer wrote:

BSent wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:
No, it's been stated by Yakface multiple times that lychguard must all be equipped identically.

I know, and that really sucks too. If it could be a combination of the 2, it would be really great. I don't want them to die at the first plasma cannon that looks at them, but I don't want them to be stuck at strength 5 either.

Just have Nemesor Zandrekh give them furious charge.

And put the bodyguard and a lord in there for some str 8 power weapons on a charge

Getting an instant death on nobs everywhere!

Hey what do you think a unit of 8 Lychguard with shields or a unit of 8 Praetonians.

I don't have a transport for them so there footslogging.

tetrisphreak wrote:Strength 5 is pretty good vs most infantry. Our tank-hunting should be done by shooty units anyhow, really. I'll take the extra survivability afforded by the shields at the loss of wounding on a 2+ (because we'll wound meq's on 3+ instead...not terrible at all)

Very true, and against terminators with hammers / power fists, we're still striking first.

Edit: can a unit of lychguard or flayed ones assault after teleporting through the 'lith?

Nothing is allowed to assault after teleporting through a monolith. I think that's now supposed to be classified as disembarking from a vehicle now.

EDIT; already covered above.

IRT Cryage;

I cannot see a good reason to run Warscythe Lychguard, the survivability that the Void sheild adds is easily the optimal choice. Further support Void sheild Lychguard with a res orb and they are actually a VERY resilient combat unit, top this off that with the shield they still have S5 power weapon attacks that will strike before double strength power weapons, so they are still hitting very hard.

I'll be running Nemesor, so including a warscythe lord and adding furious charge would indeed give you some S8 power weapon hits in there, the key part that isn't being discussed is we have no assault vehicles so these guys getting the charge is going to be the part you have to plan well, or you want to be supporting them with popped vehicles in your shooting turn so AV weaponry is really important.

This is why one of the first things I will look up is the Triarch Stalker stat line and point costs.

tetrisphreak wrote:I can't fathom taking 3 c'tan, mostly because i have the 2 sculpts and I don't feel like buying a duplicate sculpt. However, 2 c'tan and a medium/large squad of lycheguard marching up behind a monolith can be formidable.

Best of luck getting somewhere at 6" movement each turn ^^

Sectiplave wrote:EDIT; already covered above.

I cannot see a good reason to run Warscythe Lychguard, the survivability that the Void sheild adds is easily the optimal choice. Further support Void sheild Lychguard with a res orb and they are actually a VERY resilient combat unit, top this off that with the shield they still have S5 power weapon attacks that will strike before double strength power weapons, so they are still hitting very hard.

Yeah thats my thoughts as well - I mean with the shields, they are basically Grey Knight terminators that have "hammerhand" cast all the time, WITH a higher toughness, ALSO having reanimation protocols... I cant wait to see the points cost on these guys

Cryage wrote:

Sectiplave wrote:EDIT; already covered above.

I cannot see a good reason to run Warscythe Lychguard, the survivability that the Void sheild adds is easily the optimal choice. Further support Void sheild Lychguard with a res orb and they are actually a VERY resilient combat unit, top this off that with the shield they still have S5 power weapon attacks that will strike before double strength power weapons, so they are still hitting very hard.

Yeah thats my thoughts as well - I mean with the shields, they are basically Grey Knight terminators that have "hammerhand" cast all the time, WITH a higher toughness, ALSO having reanimation protocols... I cant wait to see the points cost on these guys

45pts, apparently.

Points for lychguard?

They are already mentioned as being 40 base plus 5 to upgrade to the shield/PW.

I always would watch this video to get pumped before playing my Necrons... seems fitting the closer the official release of the new models...

Its a bit more punchy than Matt Ward's Necron Vid on the GW site
I wouldn't get too hung up on Lychguard, 18 Wraiths with whips is where the smart moeny will be going.

Sir Harry Flashman, VC wrote:Its a bit more punchy than Matt Ward's Necron Vid on the GW site
I wouldn't get too hung up on Lychguard, 18 Wraiths with whips is where the smart moeny will be going.

True enough, just good luck finding wraiths now... ebay's are all either broken, have bad paint jobs, or are going for $40+ each.

So what do you think on my situation.

Cryage wrote:

Sir Harry Flashman, VC wrote:Its a bit more punchy than Matt Ward's Necron Vid on the GW site
I wouldn't get too hung up on Lychguard, 18 Wraiths with whips is where the smart moeny will be going.

True enough, just good luck finding wraiths now... ebay's are all either broken, have bad paint jobs, or are going for $40+ each.

King Pariah suggested a really cool conversion:

If you buy an Ark (and you will!), you get 10 Necron Warrior models. Each of them has a sort of long spinal cord right at their back that might be used for a Wraith's tail. Simply use the bodies in the box, add the heads and the spine cord along with a good base, a bit re-sculpting, a bit Green Stuff (shoulder pads, cloths, etc.) and you got about 10 Wraiths ready to tear someone to shreds.

The only big problem is that the arms in the Ark box are stuck to the torso thus you either have to re-sculpt the part (remove the arms, use them as new ones and maybe put some "cloth" on the ruined parts on the chest) or simply use normal warrior bodies instead...yet that's another problem as you will have to use almost an entire Warrior box for said conversion and end up having 22 legs you can't use.

Then again, you could also keep the normal Ark bodies and live with the fact that your Wraiths have such a pose...fluff-wise, they are supposed to be guardians anyway

aboytervigon wrote:So what do you think on my situation.

I'd go for the Lychguard, they are much more reliable and might even survive some shooting due to their 4++...yet...I'd rather take Wraiths.

^^ That's not a bad idea, I'll try it out with my first doomsday ark when I have those left over - if we get any done quickly I'd like to see some peoples pics

You could also use a normal Warrior to make Wraiths...some findings:

http://www.squaretablegaming.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=58

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/255706.page

I prefer the latter as it looks a lot more dynamic and both ways are really cheap - you buy a box of Warriors (should be about 18€) and get the stuff to convert them to 12 Wraiths plus get 3 more scarab bases that could also be used to make a nice base. Should be about 20-25€ for 12 Wraiths...about 1,90€ per Wraith? Sounds awesome to me!

I'm worried this is going to become just another transport-spam army.

The Necrons assimilate earth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1BdQcJ2ZYY