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Mississippi

I personally am stoked to get BA brought into line with the rest of their marine cousins with Doctrines and Litanites.

I've also heard a rumor (completely unverified) that the Red Thirst rule will be amended in Chapter Approved to give Blood Angels a +1 to wound in addition to a +1 to charge and advance rolls.

If true, coupled with the Canticle of Hate (+2 to charge rolls) litany from a Chaplain, you could deepstrike or Upon Wings of Fire stratagem re-deploy a squad of Death Company further than 9" away and with the Litany and Red Thirst bonus, be able to make it within an inch of your target(s) on a charge roll of 6+.

Me likey. Me likey a lot.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-


You don't know me son, so I'll explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.  
   
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Australia

Have any spoilers dropped about PA3's story yet?

Sons of Horus 29th Company 
   
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I think, just for the funsies, I wanna turn my unpainted Intercessors into Death Company. Back them with my unpainted Scouts.Then add in a Radical Inquisitor.

I do love painting red.
   
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 Red__Thirst wrote:
I personally am stoked to get BA brought into line with the rest of their marine cousins with Doctrines and Litanites.

I've also heard a rumor (completely unverified) that the Red Thirst rule will be amended in Chapter Approved to give Blood Angels a +1 to wound in addition to a +1 to charge and advance rolls.

If true, coupled with the Canticle of Hate (+2 to charge rolls) litany from a Chaplain, you could deepstrike or Upon Wings of Fire stratagem re-deploy a squad of Death Company further than 9" away and with the Litany and Red Thirst bonus, be able to make it within an inch of your target(s) on a charge roll of 6+.

Me likey. Me likey a lot.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-


Nothing to do with Chapter Approved, but thats what Red Thirst does now.
   
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 Red__Thirst wrote:
I personally am stoked to get BA brought into line with the rest of their marine cousins with Doctrines and Litanites.

I've also heard a rumor (completely unverified) that the Red Thirst rule will be amended in Chapter Approved to give Blood Angels a +1 to wound in addition to a +1 to charge and advance rolls.

If true, coupled with the Canticle of Hate (+2 to charge rolls) litany from a Chaplain, you could deepstrike or Upon Wings of Fire stratagem re-deploy a squad of Death Company further than 9" away and with the Litany and Red Thirst bonus, be able to make it within an inch of your target(s) on a charge roll of 6+.

Me likey. Me likey a lot.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-



Red Thirst is already +1 to wound and +1 advance/charge

On the other hand, the Chaplain Canticle doesn't stack with any other charge bonuses from Chapter Traits, Warlord Traits, Stratagems, Psychic Powers, etc..
   
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Mississippi

When did Red Thirst change to have +1 to Charge & Advance along with +1 to wound???

I didn't get that particular memo. Where was it published?

Forgive my ignorance, I only found out about it last week.

Also the Litany not stacking with the bonus movement does make sense. I figured it was going to work that way but a man can dream, at least.

Thanks. Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

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 Red__Thirst wrote:
When did Red Thirst change to have +1 to Charge & Advance along with +1 to wound???

I didn't get that particular memo. Where was it published?

Forgive my ignorance, I only found out about it last week.

Also the Litany not stacking with the bonus movement does make sense. I figured it was going to work that way but a man can dream, at least.

Thanks. Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-


Its in the as of yet unreleased PA3.
   
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I'm looking at my copy of Phoenix Rising. I'm reading my pages for Dark Eldar. My mind wanders to what other factions are getting, and I sigh. Once again, we are left holding only wrapping paper; filled with a broken promise and shattered dreams.

Right now, I can feel the anguish of the Tyranid players as they look upon the Blood of Baal. I can't help but envy them their paltry offering, despite the sympathy I feel. Oh, what I would give for one stratagem or a relic. It doesn't have to be both.

I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.

So it is, with these thoughts in hand, I open a review of chapter approved. After listening to the points reductions for other armies, I learn that our only vehicle is to be increased in price. With a heavy heart, I shut off the stream and glance at my ravagers, already discarded after earlier rounds of weakening before this price rise. It seems their time is done and Venoms are all that are left to us now.

Next time, that fragile hope whispers in my heart, next time they'll remember you.
   
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I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.


... what space marine players have cried for more?

Ultimately the power of an Inquisitor extends as far as he can make it extend 
   
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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
"Each book will be accompanied by an epic champion". Except if you're Chaos or Black Templars, because you're only getting a generic Chaos Sorcerer.

Generic character > special character.
I wish Junith Eruita was just a generic character!

What's funny is that when Vigilus Burns came out many (including myself) chaos players were annoyed that the jump pack chaos lord was a Black Legion specific unit and not just a jump pack chaos lord.
   
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Drager wrote:
I'm looking at my copy of Phoenix Rising. I'm reading my pages for Dark Eldar. My mind wanders to what other factions are getting, and I sigh. Once again, we are left holding only wrapping paper; filled with a broken promise and shattered dreams.

Right now, I can feel the anguish of the Tyranid players as they look upon the Blood of Baal. I can't help but envy them their paltry offering, despite the sympathy I feel. Oh, what I would give for one stratagem or a relic. It doesn't have to be both.

I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.

So it is, with these thoughts in hand, I open a review of chapter approved. After listening to the points reductions for other armies, I learn that our only vehicle is to be increased in price. With a heavy heart, I shut off the stream and glance at my ravagers, already discarded after earlier rounds of weakening before this price rise. It seems their time is done and Venoms are all that are left to us now.

Next time, that fragile hope whispers in my heart, next time they'll remember you.


This post is giving me so much power from pain
   
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 xttz wrote:
Drager wrote:
I'm looking at my copy of Phoenix Rising. I'm reading my pages for Dark Eldar. My mind wanders to what other factions are getting, and I sigh. Once again, we are left holding only wrapping paper; filled with a broken promise and shattered dreams.

Right now, I can feel the anguish of the Tyranid players as they look upon the Blood of Baal. I can't help but envy them their paltry offering, despite the sympathy I feel. Oh, what I would give for one stratagem or a relic. It doesn't have to be both.

I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.

So it is, with these thoughts in hand, I open a review of chapter approved. After listening to the points reductions for other armies, I learn that our only vehicle is to be increased in price. With a heavy heart, I shut off the stream and glance at my ravagers, already discarded after earlier rounds of weakening before this price rise. It seems their time is done and Venoms are all that are left to us now.

Next time, that fragile hope whispers in my heart, next time they'll remember you.


This post is giving me so much power from pain


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Trick Question, of course it's the loyalists!

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Melbourne

So apologies if this is known/debunked/whatever, as I haven't following events, but is there/has there been any rumours of a new Eldar Avatar coming?

I noticed on the GW site a bit of art with the avatar fighting marines and didn't recognise it. Its almost identical to the FW avatar, but not exact. And we all know how GW are with their art-match-model nonsense these days.

[Thumb - New Avatar.png]

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 Arachnofiend wrote:
 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
"Each book will be accompanied by an epic champion". Except if you're Chaos or Black Templars, because you're only getting a generic Chaos Sorcerer.

Generic character > special character.
I wish Junith Eruita was just a generic character!

What's funny is that when Vigilus Burns came out many (including myself) chaos players were annoyed that the jump pack chaos lord was a Black Legion specific unit and not just a jump pack chaos lord.

I'm not sure what's funny about it, but I 100% agree with your sentiment.

 
   
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 Snrub wrote:
So apologies if this is known/debunked/whatever, as I haven't following events, but is there/has there been any rumours of a new Eldar Avatar coming?

I noticed on the GW site a bit of art with the avatar fighting marines and didn't recognise it. Its almost identical to the FW avatar, but not exact. And we all know how GW are with their art-match-model nonsense these days.



Despite what experts on the internet say, GW are kinda lax about it. There are plenty of examples of recent artwork that aren't of miniatures. I would like a new avatar mini though.

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They'll probably start updating the Eldar range from resin next year, much like they did Chaos this year. Kill Team is also long over due for a Craftworld faction boxset...

Expanding Codex: Harliquins to Codex: Ynnari would be a good move by Games Workshop to launch that range, because the Psychic Awakening series is not going to remain in print for as long as the codex books, and players will be back to square one asking "which codex do I need for a Ynnari army?". The Harliquins make for a good Kill Team, but sorely lacking as a 40K army needing to borrow units from the Craftworlds and Drukhari for any serious muscle. Unless one loves painting the same models over-and-over again, the Harliquins don't really go much further than a patrol detachment...


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We've been hoping for an end to (eldar) Resin for years.

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The avatar art is not new, it appeared (at least first time I saw it) in the Deathwatch Codex.
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.


... what space marine players have cried for more?


A myriad of Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Wolves when the other endless flood of marine updates came out - "where is ours!" ad nauseum.

Others asking for more new Marines,

new Primaris Marines

New Marines

After all having a vast bloated range, always being added to by GW and FW is not nearly enough.


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I want some Primaris Terminators.
   
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I want some Primaris Orks.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
Yes, because everyone lines up on the deployment line when facing off against orkz, especially when said orkz are fielding 3 Bonebreakers...which rely exclusively on getting into CC to inflict any kind of actual harm. All of your arguments rely upon your opponent being a brain dead muppet who just lets you maul him.


Yea...that's called board control.
 
   
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New Dark Angel character (model, not rules), new Space Wolf character (model, not, rules). As a Deathwatch player too, I'm good with models, just give us access to a Vanguard kill team.
However, despite what people decry, these are not unreasonable requests. Azrael and Ezekiel both hark back to 2nd edition. Of the 2, Azrael needs the update most simply because he is tiny. I would prefer Ezekiel myself as many people have just converted Azrael out of the new DA Lt.
   
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JWBS wrote:
I want some Primaris Terminators.


Never played them but the Aggressor look like the Primaris replacement for the Terminator.

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 Mr Morden wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.


... what space marine players have cried for more?


A myriad of Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Wolves when the other endless flood of marine updates came out - "where is ours!" ad nauseum.

Others asking for more new Marines,

new Primaris Marines

New Marines

After all having a vast bloated range, always being added to by GW and FW is not nearly enough.



Oh give me a break! We are paying for the continued existence of all of your armies and GW as a whole. You should be gratefull GW throws a bone to you plebs once in a while. And unlike some GK players you haven't seem me complaint about Dark Angels being the worst army of the game for more than 1 year now. (Yes, GK and Tyranids have more winrate than DA)

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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JWBS wrote:
I want some Primaris Terminators.


Spoiler:


I can allready see the pricetag. 3 for 55CHF.


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 Galas wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.


... what space marine players have cried for more?


A myriad of Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Wolves when the other endless flood of marine updates came out - "where is ours!" ad nauseum.

Others asking for more new Marines,

new Primaris Marines

New Marines

After all having a vast bloated range, always being added to by GW and FW is not nearly enough.



Oh give me a break! We are paying for the continued existence of all of your armies and GW as a whole. You should be gratefull GW throws a bone to you plebs once in a while.


you see, if GW would actually invest sometimes in factions with units older then you are probably then GW wouldn't need to have so many SM kits to carry them...

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10'000 + years of veterancy, or some raidy Boys?
Trick Question, of course it's the loyalists!

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I'd prefer Primaris Centurions
   
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 Galas wrote:
We are paying for the continued existence of all of your armies and GW as a whole.

You are paying for the models you want to pay for.
I mean, GW could have been paid for by selling more SoB boxes if they had made more.

 Galas wrote:
And unlike some GK players you haven't seem me complaint about Dark Angels being the worst army of the game for more than 1 year now. (Yes, GK and Tyranids have more winrate than DA)

I see you doing it right now!


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Primaris Knight. Get it going, Cawl, we need betterer more dakkaer more stronger more durabler imperial knights!!!

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BrianDavion wrote:
I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.


... what space marine players have cried for more?

Queue David Attenborough voice.
You have a few common flavors of marine complainer:
Spoiler:

1.Primaris haters: These guys come in a few different sub-flavors varying from "all stunty marines are going to get squatted" to "Primaris ruin the look of normal marines" to "I hate that primaris don't come in a specific flavor(melee being the most common) Basically, the guys who hate Primaris well beyond "eh I don't care for them"
2. My Codex/Supplement isn't good enough: These guys vary even more than the primaris haters do. Bolter Envy over another chapter's supplement, not liking their optimal build for any number of reasons, (pre-supplements) wanting to get their codex first and not have to deal with it becoming outdated, and a relatively new form "I don't like how these point drops are scaling up the game so let's advocate for smaller game sizes despite not all armies increasing in size." The primaris haters usually overlap heavily with these guys if their optimal build involves any Primaris.
3. My Codex/Supplement is too good: First let me be clear, these aren't the guys saying marines were overbuffed and need nerfs. These are the guys who hate the reputation marines are getting and will do anything in their power to fight that reputation without actually nerfing their marines. "Don't worry other armies will get their 2.0 codices soon!" "It's not (their chapter) that's overperforming it's _______." Marine apologists etc all fall under this category
4. Fake it til you make it. Players who advocate for changes in other armies without any clue as to how the army/unit/model they want to change works. While not uniquely a marine player trait, it's usually a marine player doing it. Removing the FNP from Shield drones is a good recent example. "Grots are broken, not the ablative wound mechanic they fuel" is another one from the CA rumors. "Armies with cheap troops are broken cause they have more CP" without addressing that different armies require different amounts of CP to function is typically a marine argument.

Hopefully this should help cover most of them for you. A lot of them have generic versions that come out of players from every army, but these are probably the most relevant without calling out people by naming them directly.


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Edit: If we are wishlisting, I'd settle for non-primaris models that don't come in a boxset.

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Primaris Knight. Get it going, Cawl, we need betterer more dakkaer more stronger more durabler imperial knights!!!

Would they be inexplicably naive? Would they be shunned by Knightlet pilots due to suspicion or jealousy? I like the idea of Primariknights but we'd really have to cuck them in some way to avoid upsetting Knightlet players too much. Simply upscaling Knights and telling Knightlet players that Knights look like this now would be very foolish.
   
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:


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Primaris Knight. Get it going, Cawl, we need betterer more dakkaer more stronger more durabler imperial knights!!!


It's called a warhound titan. Plastic please, and then maybe it would be dropped in points to what it is actually worth.
   
 
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