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Good day Dakkaites! Decided to turn my 2000pts loyalist Alpha Legion into an escalation army. I'll start at 1000pts, then slowly work my way up to 2500, participating in each tournament at my FLGS. Just as a note, I must include a dreadnought, a Predator, Terminators, and my Terminator armored Librarian. I'll post a new list every once in a while, and I need you guys to help me tear it up and make it work! Please put your input in, every little bit counts!

SO! First, here is my 1000pt list!
HQ:

Librarian w/ Terminator Armor, Null Zone ... 125

TROOPS:

Tact Squad 1 w/ Melta gun, Multi Melta, Combi Melta, Power Fist, Drop Pod ... 245

Tact Squad 2 w/ Flamer, Missile Launcher, Powerfist, Rhino, Dozer Blade ... 235

Scout Squad (7) w/ Sniper Rifles, Telion, Camo Cloaks, Melta Bombs ... 167

ELITES:

Dreadnought w/ TL Lascannon ... 135

HEAVY SUPPORT:

Predator w/ Autocannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Dozer Blade ... 90

GRAND TOTAL: 997

Tear apart everything that isn't the Librarian! The Librarian, if need be changed, must stay in Terminator Armor!

I would save Telion for a slightly higher points list.
Also, you said you needed to include terminators, but their not no the list.
Good luck with your tournaments.

Yeah, that's probably a better idea, due to him being a 50pt upgrade.

Well, I wanted to include them, but at 1000pts, that seems like too many points dedicated into 5 guys.

Thanks a lot!


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New, updated list!

HQ:

Librarian w/ Terminator Armor, Null Zone, Machine Curse ... 125

TROOPS:

Tactcal Squad 1 (10) w/ Melta gun, Multi Melta, Combi Melta, Power Fist, Drop Pod ... 245

Tactical Squad 2 (10) w/ Flamer, Missile Launcher, Powerfist, Rhino, Dozer Blade ... 235

Scout Squad (10) w/ Sniper Rifles, Camo Cloaks ... 170

ELITES:

Dreadnought w/ TL Lascannon ... 135

HEAVY SUPPORT:

Predator w/ Autocannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Dozer Blade ... 90

GRAND TOTAL: 1000

Besides this, the other update I have for this blog is questioning "What will be in the next 500pts?"

Well, I've been stuck on a few options:

Pedro and some Sternguard, acting as a "command squad"

Termintators

Another Flamer/Missile Tactical Squad

Another Predator, same set up as the last

5 man Devastator squad w/ missile launchers

10 man assault marine squad

What do you think I could benefit with in the next 500pts?

I would put in either a devastator squad, or pedro and some sternguard, even if it's not all at once.
10 assault marines are good, but in my opinion they should always have a chaplain with them.

I could possibly fit both, depending on points. The Dev squad will most likely be 200pts, or around that area. Sternguard can get expensive too, so I'll have to prioritize.

Ergh, throwing in a Chaplain will take away Pedro's spot. Maybe get both and switch them out whenever necessary? Then again, Pedro isn't really necessary. Honestly, the only boost he gives my army is one squad of scoring Sternguard, who get +1 attack because of him. I could just forget Pedro completely, and just use the assault squad with a chaplain and either the sternguard or the devastators (whichever I can fit/seems more appropriate for the point level)

I would either go ten man assault squad and chaplain, devastators and another predator or pedro and sternguard.

IMHO Pedro is a good support character. His main advantages are sternguard as scoring units, an orbital bombardment and stubborn for your army.
After the orbital is done, I personally don't have much use for Pedro.
Also, you could go with shrike and an assault squad.

Hmm... So, my set ups will either be

Assault squad, Chap, Dev, Pred
or
Stern + Pedro
or
Assault Squad, Shrike, Dev and possibly a Pred.

Well, now it's a Chaplain vs Shrike vs Pedro for the last HQ slot.
Shrike gives your army Fleet. Sure, my army is more gun-line oriented, but if it comes down to it, and I need the charge right now, Shrike will give me that, plus two rending master crafted lighting claws, and Infiltrate. The Chaplain lets me re-roll fails to hit in CC, gives the squad he's in Fearless, and is cheaper out of the three. Pedro gives me fire support, scoring Sternguard, and Stubborn, which is kind of eh compared to Fleet, and his +1 Attack Banner.

I use shrike and pedro, and It's very fun when shrike starts the game 12-18 inches away from the enemy and jump pack's, fleets and assaults them on the first turn.

Shrike does sound like a good character. And having a CC squad wouldn't be bad in my army, hell it'd probably help a lot! Plus I can benefit from Fleet even more if I purchase a squad of CC Terminators and throw them in a Crusader with my Librarian. Fleet Thunder Hammers that ignore armor and makes successful enemy invuls get re-rolled? Yup, sounds great to me!

I think your idea of a librarian in a crusader with assault terminators is great.

Thanks! I'll have to throw the Terminators in later, as I'm sure that the squad with it's transport will cost 400+pts

So, right now, Shrike and some Assault Marines, and probably a Pred, as I'm not sure how much the assault squad and Shrike will cost points wise.

IIRC, a ten man assault squad with minor upgrades is just short of 200 points and Shrike costs 195.

You're correct. Without upgrades, a ten-man assault squad is 190pts. I'm assuming I'll want Melta Bombs or a Powerfist to deal with any walkers that catch the squad (which i highly doubt, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.) If I don't take the Powerfist, maybe a Powersword. I know I probably want a combat shield on my Sergeant, possibly a storm shield. And either two flamers or two plasma pistols.

I would go for two flamers. Assault marines are mainly anti-horde, so having two templates worth of flamers always helps.
As for the sergeant, powerfist and power sword are both good options. Personally in a squad that size I would give him a powerfist.

Wow, that assault squad + Shrike is 435pts. That's a lot of points for 11 guys! It leaves me with 65pts to spare. Not much to work with.... Suggestions?

With the 65 points, there's a few things you can do.
A techmarine would increase the survivability for scouts/
Also IIRC Telion gives your scouts stealth just by having it, meaning you can drop the camo cloaks. I could be wrong though.
Also, if you have an assault squad, I would make the predator more anti-tank since assault marines are excellent anti-horde.

I'm not sure taking a Techmarine would be good. That's one of my Elite slots, and I'd much rather fill those with Terminators/Dreadnoughts/Sternguard. And yes, Telion does give them stealth. That'd leave me with 45pts left over. And I could upgrade to Las Sponsons

But it also depends on which HQ I take. I'm leaning a little bit towards Shrike, but Pedro IMO has so many more benefits. Sure, I'm missing out of Fleet, but I get Stubborn, and orbital bombardment, scoring Sternguard, and +1 Attack to squads within 12 inches. So, I was thinking these two options:

Either the Shrike squad, which is a 435pt squad, upgrade one Pred to las sponsons, with a remainder of 5pts
Or
The Pedro squad which is 495pts, with 10 combi-meltas, a powersword (or lightning claw), and meltabombs, with 5pts left over.

If you want a major close combat unit, go with the shirke assault squad.
If you want an all around improve to your army go Pedro, your choice.
I personally run Pedro over Shrike, namely for the orbital bombardments.

I think running Pedro would be a more viable option then. I'd rather my entire army get boosted.

Yeah.
I started to use him because I was a huge fan of crimson fists. Unfortunately, he seems to have a habit of getting killed every game.

Crimson Fists are pretty cool, they're definitely one of my favorite SM chapters.

I can assume so. I mean, it's a named, special character. I'm sure people assume the worse when the characters is named.

The model is pretty awesome to. I just wish he had eternal warrior. I suppose most named space marine characters don't, but can't stop me wishing for it.

It'd help so much with his survivability. He's a great character too, one of the better named SM characters.

He definitely is.

Hm, sadly, he and the Sternguard are expensive. 10 Sternguards, Power fist, 10 Combi-Meltas and plasmas, and Kantor are 500pts. That seems like too small of an add on onto my army. I mean, 11 guys isn't that much, would they be worth throwing in for 500 more points?

If you had 1000 extra points then I would say yes. You could do them in two waves. Also, not every sternguard has to have a combi-weapon.

Hm.. True. I could start out right now with a squad of five, with a power fist, and three combi meltas. Throw em in a Razorback with Kantor.

But, I have also considered ditching the idea for now, because I most likely need to worry more about support units and troops and such.

I would probably go with one of the past ideas for 500 points for your next game.

So, maybe another Pred, a Tact squad, but that leaves me with 140pts with which i have no clue to do with.

Another Tact squad is a great add-on. Maybe Telion? Maybe the Terminators.

That sounds good. At the 1500 point level Telion would work, though terminators are probably better, though terminators cost to much for 140 points I think.