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2012/04/11 19:03:51
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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“Yesss! Just as planned!”
–Spoken by Xi’aquan, Lord of Change, in its death throes |
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2012/04/11 19:07:18
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
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Hmm...
Looks likes the petition's information is incorrect (Dark Alliance is still in production)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/11 19:46:43
Thanrial wrote:Your not going to wake up, pick up the paper (or search the news) and see a headline:
"40K PLAYER SHOOTS 100 PEOPLE SHOUTING "DAKKA"" .
infinite_array wrote:junk wrote:infinite_array wrote:There's absolutely no way this thread won't descend into Monty Python jokes until being locked. Ni!
HELP! HELP! The OP is being repressed! Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
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2012/04/11 19:13:19
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Fixture of Dakka
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While I am all for people defending their copyrights, trademarks and IP... Online petitions literally do nothing.
I suspect a single handwritten letter to GW's legal will do infinitly more than 60k electronics sigantures to EA. In the end, it is GW's IP which they must defend in order to keep it, fans of GW or any company can't defend a copyright on behalf of the holder.
For the longest time, a banner in Warsong Gulch's flag room in World of Warcraft had a texture with an image on it. The image was of an OOP forgeworld fantasy orc Bust. Hell, it still may be there. Was it a homage? Was it a jab at a competator? Was it a lazy artist grabbing some crap of google? who knows. It is the owner of the bust to complain if they feel it is an issue.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/11 19:13:43
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2012/04/11 19:16:09
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Wait... a C&C browser game? Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
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2012/04/11 19:20:36
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
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It's similar, but it looks like it was made for kids. Bulky stubby barrels and the like. Probably not enough to guarantee a win i court. Also the baneblade does have a real life equivalent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-heavy_tank
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Be sure to use logic! Avoid fallacies whenever possible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies |
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2012/04/11 19:27:41
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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There was a thread on the tank image some time ago.
And I mentioned there that GW will never go after a company who can actually afford to hire a lawyer, let alone one that can hire hundreds of them... and as mentioned above, the Baneblade design is not at all inspired by other real world and fictional tank designs...
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2012/04/11 19:35:40
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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nectarprime wrote:https://www.change.org/petitions/electronic-arts-inc-acknowledge-copyright-infringement-and-pay-necessary-compensation
Its a fething tank. Get over it.
GW does not own copyright on tanks.
If anything the Russians should bomb the hell out of Nottingham for GW stealing their ideas and making them into a baneblade. etc.
GW are big boys, they do not need some slowed online petition. They are litigious enough to take care of themselves, as they have made painfully obvious when picking on those who do not have the funding to defend themselves as GW can.
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2012/04/11 19:40:18
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Plus your petition makes some reckless statments putting you at risk for legal action.
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2012/04/11 19:41:05
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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 Automatically Appended Next Post: This is not my petition nor image and I am in no way affiliated with it.
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“Yesss! Just as planned!”
–Spoken by Xi’aquan, Lord of Change, in its death throes |
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2012/04/11 19:45:15
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Fixture of Dakka
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Hellfury wrote:nectarprime wrote:https://www.change.org/petitions/electronic-arts-inc-acknowledge-copyright-infringement-and-pay-necessary-compensation
Its a fething tank. Get over it.
GW does not own copyright on tanks.
Sorry, it is very much clearly a baneblamde which I can find no real life tank which even remotley resembles a baneblade. So they are perfectly able to own a copyright on 'tanks' if those tanks are uniqley theirs which a large number of GW's tanks are.
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2012/04/11 19:45:16
Subject: Re:EA infringes GW copyright
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Games Workshop Delenda Est.
Users on ignore- 53.
If you break apart my or anyone else's posts line by line I will not read them. |
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2012/04/11 19:46:42
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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I wonder if the person who originated the online petition knows what he's asking EA to do, and what the consequences would be to EA if they "acknowledge their plagiarism in a public statement"
Likely not.
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2012/04/11 19:47:34
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If anything, GW should be pleased that they getting more maintstream coverage.
Anyway, it's as Silver said. GW would never go up against a company as large as EA with their own legion of lawyers. Hell, they can barely make a case against a much smaller company.
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2012/04/11 19:48:17
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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biccat wrote:I wonder if the person who originated the online petition knows what he's asking EA to do, and what the consequences would be to EA if they "acknowledge their plagiarism in a public statement"
Likely not.
Given all the crap that EA has been pulling lately, I think they do.
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“Yesss! Just as planned!”
–Spoken by Xi’aquan, Lord of Change, in its death throes |
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2012/04/11 19:51:09
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Roaring Reaver Rider
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But peoples views on the internet affect no-one and tend to be ignored...
Nom
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2012/04/11 19:51:21
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Nigel Stillman
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Are people really sideing with EA over GW?
My how the world turns!
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2012/04/11 19:53:33
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Ma55ter_fett wrote:Are people really sideing with EA over GW?
My how the world turns!
Vote EA! This time they're the lesser of two evils. 
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Games Workshop Delenda Est.
Users on ignore- 53.
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2012/04/11 19:54:44
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Calculating Commissar
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I kind of hope GW DOSE go out for legal action. On both the Facebook game and EA. It is their IP, and if they hold copyright on that armourcast model, then I honestly think that they have a solid case here. I mean, they look IDENTICAL!
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2012/04/11 19:55:56
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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Grimtuff wrote:Ma55ter_fett wrote:Are people really sideing with EA over GW?
My how the world turns!
Vote EA! This time they're the lesser of two evils.
Hell no they aren't! They are a terrible, terrible company.
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“Yesss! Just as planned!”
–Spoken by Xi’aquan, Lord of Change, in its death throes |
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2012/04/11 19:56:27
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
The other side of the internet
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Fair enough about the Armorcast one, but that may be Armorcast's jurisdiction not GWs depending on who has the copyright to that particular model.
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RAGE
Be sure to use logic! Avoid fallacies whenever possible.
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2012/04/11 19:59:11
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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nectarprime wrote:Grimtuff wrote:Ma55ter_fett wrote:Are people really sideing with EA over GW?
My how the world turns!
Vote EA! This time they're the lesser of two evils.
Hell no they aren't! They are a terrible, terrible company.
And the award for missing the obvious Simpsons reference goes to... 
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2012/04/11 20:05:49
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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nkelsch wrote:Hellfury wrote:nectarprime wrote:https://www.change.org/petitions/electronic-arts-inc-acknowledge-copyright-infringement-and-pay-necessary-compensation
Its a fething tank. Get over it.
GW does not own copyright on tanks.
Sorry, it is very much clearly a baneblamde which I can find no real life tank which even remotley resembles a baneblade. So they are perfectly able to own a copyright on 'tanks' if those tanks are uniqley theirs which a large number of GW's tanks are.
All I have to say is good luck in that infringement case.
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2012/04/11 20:11:35
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
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nkelsch wrote:Hellfury wrote:nectarprime wrote:https://www.change.org/petitions/electronic-arts-inc-acknowledge-copyright-infringement-and-pay-necessary-compensation
Its a fething tank. Get over it.
GW does not own copyright on tanks.
Sorry, it is very much clearly a baneblamde which I can find no real life tank which even remotley resembles a baneblade. So they are perfectly able to own a copyright on 'tanks' if those tanks are uniqley theirs which a large number of GW's tanks are.
Char B1, a WW2 French heavy tank. (Image used for purposes of illustration and review.)
Tank from Gundam
British WW1 tank.
All of these tanks have strong resemblances to aspects of the Baneblade.
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2012/04/11 20:21:13
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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EA definitely copied the Armour Cast Bainblade. I'm not an IP lawyer, but I think GW would win in court. There's brand confusion. I took one look at the Forgotten Bombard Tank and immediately recognized it as the Baneblade.
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2012/04/11 20:33:17
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Yeah, online petitions are mostly worthless. If GW felt they had the clout to fight EA, they would. KillKrazy wrote:All of these tanks have strong resemblances to aspects of the Baneblade.
Yeah but come on KK. The one EA has made is basically a slightly different Baneblade. I'm not one to side with GW over anything, but even I can see how there'd be a case here. AlexHolker wrote:Wait... a C&C browser game? Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
Are you surprised? After C&C4 I'm surprised that franchise didn't die of shame...
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2012/04/11 20:33:32
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Fixture of Dakka
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Kilkrazy wrote:
All of these tanks have strong resemblances to aspects of the Baneblade.
Not really. They look no more similar to each other than a VW bug does to a mini cooper just because they are both small cars with headlights.
If you are saying there is almost no distinguishable design between these 3 tanks, the EA tank and the baneblade, it is extremely clear the EA tank is directly based of the exact design of the the armor cast baneblade and not a 'happy coincidence' of generic tank designs.
None of them even have a passive resemblance to the trapezoid turrets, the type of armor plating, location of things, number of turrets, design of turrets, Placement of turrets and so on.
An argument that it isn't a baneblade and never originated from a baneblade is not reasonable. It isn't like the resemblence between a GW rhino and generic real life APCs.
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My Models: Ork Army: Waaagh 'Az-ard - Chibi Dungeon RPG Models! - My Workblog!
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RULE OF COOL: When converting models, there is only one rule: "The better your model looks, the less people will complain about it."
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MODELING FOR ADVANTAGE TEST: rigeld2: "Easy test - are you willing to play the model as a stock one? No? MFA." |
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2012/04/11 20:34:40
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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@ kilkrazy: You're pics appear to be broke.
Nom
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2012/04/11 20:35:48
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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The armorcast baneblade like many armorcast things of that time is just upscaled from the Epic model, so I think GW would own the design now, Armorcast weren't really given much room to be creative with the designs beyond their Epic equivalents.
To the OP, I don't get it. Is it basically some whiteknight swooping in to defend GW IP and starting a petition for GW to sue EA? Why does the person care enough to do this? Why does it matter?
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2012/04/11 20:37:20
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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Pious Warrior Priest
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There's a lot of 3d models of the baneblade floating around.
I'd put good odds on this being the result of a lazy designer simply grabbing a random torrent off the internet and calling it a day instead of doing their job.
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2012/04/11 20:41:29
Subject: EA infringes GW copyright
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KHADOR 
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