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This is a gray knights list with paladins.

HQ - 275

-kaldor Draigo

troops - 830

-5 paladins
-1 apothecary(for feel no pain)
-2x psycannons
-brotherhood banner(on apothecary)
-4 halberds
-ddaemon hammer

-5 paladins
-1 apothecary(for feel no pain)
-2x psycannons
-brotherhood banner(on apothecary)
-4 halberds
-ddaemon hammer

heavy support - 395

-Dreadnought
-TL auto cannon
-TL auto cannon
-psybolt ammo

-Dreadknight
-heavy incinerator
-great sword
-personal teleporter

-1500

My main concerns with this list are A) maybe not enough anti tank. B) my paladins even though i re read the rules quite often i am worried they may be equipped illegaly. C) halberds or swords on the paladins? D) should i drop the dreadknight for another duel auto cannon Nought? E) oh and do you think it will be compeditive

thank you guys for the help

I'd say you were right about your anti-tank concerns. I know next to nothing about Grey Knights, so use my opinion at your discretion, but the only real solid AT I see in there are the Daemonhammers. While that may work sometimes, on a real mech-heavy IG, SM, and what have you, two hammers just can't be in enough places to make a difference. I don't know what AT options GK has, but get 'em!

i think that that list if very good

You can't have 4 halberds, a hammer and a banner in a 5 man unit as the banner replaces their CC weapon. Honestly you're better off dropping the banners altogether, too many points for a 5 man unit and no real benefit. Also as you have it right now you can't wound allocate properly which is the big plus for paladin squads. Make sure every member of the unit has a different weapon combination. Honestly I'd probably drop the apothocary too. I'd go for 2 squads like this;

Paladins (x5)
- one with sword and SB
- one with halberd and psycannon
- one with halberd and SB
- one with hammer and SB
- one with MC halberd and psycannon
= 320

You could mix it up a little, maybe exchange the sword for a nemesis staff. The key is to make sure everyone is different.

As for the rest, your dreadknight is WAY too heavy on points. 260 points? You could almost have another 2 psyrifle dreads for that cost which would help with your anti tank. Alternatively you can look at getting some transports for your paladins, stormravens are probably best and with a MM and LC they can target 2 tanks a turn.

Could always lok at getting a Librarian with might of titan for the extra D6 against vehicles.

I thought the apothecary was an additional unit for the amount of points not just an upgrade for the amount of points that ridiculous for that many points.

I was thinking about transports for them storm ravens could be real useful for the points but i would need to drop dreadknight then correct i will work on an updated list for that then re post.


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updated list

HQ - 275

- draigo
(in one storm raven)

Troops - 680

-5 paladins
-halberd & psycannon
-halberd & psycannon
-daemon hammer & storm bolter
-halberd & storm bolter
-bother banner & storm bolter
(in storm raven with mm/lc)

-5 paladins
-halberd & psycannon
-halberd & psycannon
-daemon hammer & storm bolter
-halberd & storm bolter
-bother banner & storm bolter
(in storm raven with mm/lc)

Fast Attack - 410

Storm raven
-LC
-MM

Storm raven
-LC
-MM

-Heavy Support -125

-dreadnought
-TL AC
-TL AC
-psybolt ammo
(in one storm raven)

now i was keeping everything in the 2 storm ravens, also i still think that the +2 inductive is better then the sword, in my opinion. also why do you think the brotherhood banners arent worth it its 4 extra cc attacks, if there is a good reason i could always drop it and grab other upgrades.

I think the real point of the banner is the "auto-pass" on force weapon psy test! Especially vs. Nids and the "shadow in the warp", but any MC or multi wound IC will cower in fear from that!!! Id probably just post the Dread up early and get him blasting away asap! Dont bother with taking him in Raven unless you take a more "choppy" one (AssCan/Bolts/DCC), eh? Careful with running around with all your "eggs in the basket" too, one lucky shot and one crappy save and the Raven and every thing in it goes down in flames! Their assault capability is cool but don't be afraid to just fly them around as gunships and let the Draigo & Pal's deep strike or foot slog it!


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Also, +2 I is only necessary vs certain armies,(Eldar, Nids etc) 4++ with FNP sounds pretty awesome in most cases even if you go "simultanious"... imho!

So i could go back to the list i started with if i drop the ravens, but drop the apothecaries and drop the great sword for a daemon hammer for my dreadknight.

netting 165 points

taking instead

-librarian
-vortex of doom
-might of titan
-mc force sword

165 total

or also drop dread knight all together 215 points extra

and take

-librarian
-vortex of doom
-might of titan
-mc force sword

-dreadnought
-tl ac
-tl ac
-psybolt ammo

and maybe 2 stripped rhinos to stick 5 man paladins in?

or choice 3 drop the dreadnought, dreadknight, and apothecaries in list one.

netted points 520 and take

-librarian
-vortex of doom
-might of titan
-mc force sword

dreadknight
-psycannon

dreadknight
-psycannon

leaving 15 points to tinker with

You can't put terminators/paladins in a rhino...thus the reason for using Ravens/Raiders instead. I think you should either drop the dreadknight and run 2 dreads or take 2 basic dreadknights. Its a matter of target priority, if the enemies big guns only have one target to shoot at they are going to shoot it, if they have several tempting targets you have more chance getting your mileage and use out of them. Oh and I wouldn't take Vortex, one peril and you stick that pie plate right on top of the libby...and the paladins he is with. Take warp rift or quickening.

I get your points ok this should be last list I make hopefully lol.

Hq-440

Kaldor draigo

Librarian
-might of Titan
-warp rift
-mc force sword

Troops-790

2 units of

6 paladins
-2 psycannon
-brother hood banner
-daemon hammer
////////////////////////////
1-psycannon & brotherhood banner
1-psycannon & daemon hammer
4-force sword & storm bolters

Heavy support-270

2-dreadnoughts
Each with
-tl ac
-tl ac
-psybolt ammo

Exactly 1500

Any other thoughts always welcome