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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/18 23:25:39
Subject: mad dok grotsnik and cybork bodies for all
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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If I take the mad dok as a HQ choice, for either primary army or allied army, he can then give out cybork bodies to the units from the other codex.
pg 96 ork codex "any unit in an army including the doc"
pg 109 BRB "your army can include one allied ..."
see allies are part of your army.
so if you have a really squishy unit, (no not you bugs, go sit down), you can take the dok and give out 5+ invulns to whoever needs a bit more oomph  vehicles need not apply.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/18 23:41:25
Subject: mad dok grotsnik and cybork bodies for all
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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I would imagine it would only work for non-vehicle ork units, but it would be fun if it were otherwise.
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/18 23:48:53
Subject: Re:mad dok grotsnik and cybork bodies for all
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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RAW, I think it's permitted. It doesn't even specify friendly units, so non-battlebrothers are eligible. As far as RAI, I doubt this was intended. Firewarriors with 5+ though? Allied Tau just got even better.
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Everyone knows if you paint your last miniature, you die. - Kaldor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/19 00:18:59
Subject: mad dok grotsnik and cybork bodies for all
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Tzeentch units with 4+ Inv?
Lychguard warscythes with 5+?
What other combos are there?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/19 00:29:50
Subject: mad dok grotsnik and cybork bodies for all
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Been Around the Block
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sirlynchmob wrote:If I take the mad dok as a HQ choice, for either primary army or allied army, he can then give out cybork bodies to the units from the other codex.
pg 96 ork codex "any unit in an army including the doc"
pg 109 BRB "your army can include one allied ..."
see allies are part of your army.
so if you have a really squishy unit, (no not you bugs, go sit down), you can take the dok and give out 5+ invulns to whoever needs a bit more oomph  vehicles need not apply.
It could work... except Orks are Battlebrothers with no-one. Allies of convenience and desperate allies are treated exactly as if they were enemy units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/19 00:53:29
Subject: mad dok grotsnik and cybork bodies for all
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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FallenAfh wrote:sirlynchmob wrote:If I take the mad dok as a HQ choice, for either primary army or allied army, he can then give out cybork bodies to the units from the other codex.
pg 96 ork codex "any unit in an army including the doc"
pg 109 BRB "your army can include one allied ..."
see allies are part of your army.
so if you have a really squishy unit, (no not you bugs, go sit down), you can take the dok and give out 5+ invulns to whoever needs a bit more oomph  vehicles need not apply.
It could work... except Orks are Battlebrothers with no-one. Allies of convenience and desperate allies are treated exactly as if they were enemy units.
Except that, treated as enemy units or not, they're in your army with the good doctor. (The good doctor does not discriminate!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/19 01:06:56
Subject: mad dok grotsnik and cybork bodies for all
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Been Around the Block
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Unit1126PLL wrote:FallenAfh wrote:sirlynchmob wrote:If I take the mad dok as a HQ choice, for either primary army or allied army, he can then give out cybork bodies to the units from the other codex.
pg 96 ork codex "any unit in an army including the doc"
pg 109 BRB "your army can include one allied ..."
see allies are part of your army.
so if you have a really squishy unit, (no not you bugs, go sit down), you can take the dok and give out 5+ invulns to whoever needs a bit more oomph  vehicles need not apply.
It could work... except Orks are Battlebrothers with no-one. Allies of convenience and desperate allies are treated exactly as if they were enemy units.
Except that, treated as enemy units or not, they're in your army with the good doctor. (The good doctor does not discriminate!)
I wish you good luck arguing that to any opponent with a straight face then. I would support your stance if they worked on battle brothers only (even though that might be offensive to some), but the rules for allies of convenience simply do not support that interpretation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/19 01:30:13
Subject: mad dok grotsnik and cybork bodies for all
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Unit1126PLL wrote:FallenAfh wrote:sirlynchmob wrote:If I take the mad dok as a HQ choice, for either primary army or allied army, he can then give out cybork bodies to the units from the other codex.
pg 96 ork codex "any unit in an army including the doc"
pg 109 BRB "your army can include one allied ..."
see allies are part of your army.
so if you have a really squishy unit, (no not you bugs, go sit down), you can take the dok and give out 5+ invulns to whoever needs a bit more oomph  vehicles need not apply.
It could work... except Orks are Battlebrothers with no-one. Allies of convenience and desperate allies are treated exactly as if they were enemy units.
Except that, treated as enemy units or not, they're in your army with the good doctor. (The good doctor does not discriminate!)
he is a doctor, Hippocratic Oath and all Automatically Appended Next Post: as the legality of this got called into question, I posted a mirror of it on YMDC:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/463597.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/19 06:34:00
Subject: mad dok grotsnik and cybork bodies for all
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Blackgaze wrote:Tzeentch units with 4+ Inv?
Lychguard warscythes with 5+?
What other combos are there?
Any relevant Tzeench units already have invul saves.
FallenAfh wrote:I wish you good luck arguing that to any opponent with a straight face then. I would support your stance if they worked on battle brothers only (even though that might be offensive to some), but the rules for allies of convenience simply do not support that interpretation.
Have you read Grotzniks fluff? He will operate enemies, whether they like it or not. That's why he came to the battlefield in the first place.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/19 06:53:47
Subject: mad dok grotsnik and cybork bodies for all
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Okay so according to this, for 5ppm all my gk interceptors with NFw swords can have iron haloes?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/19 10:32:56
Subject: mad dok grotsnik and cybork bodies for all
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Brainy Zoanthrope
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so a big mek, a necron lord and mad doc grotsnik walked into a bar.
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well lets just say that with living metal, the big meks InVenShuns, and what the doc did whatever it was that walked out wasn't pretty. (But was Ded Killy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/19 11:01:10
Subject: Re:mad dok grotsnik and cybork bodies for all
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Sorry to ruin the fun but like as been said orks don't have battle brothers and all the others say your independent characters cannot join your allied squads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/19 11:08:15
Subject: mad dok grotsnik and cybork bodies for all
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Joining the squad is not needed, as Mad Doc dose not need to be in the squad.
I guess you could possibly push it as RAW, but I would not try it myself (even though the Doc probably would try it on anyone dumb enough to turn there back to him long enough to be "anaesthetised", although I don't think much other than an ork would live to fight)
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insaniak wrote:Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/19 12:14:11
Subject: mad dok grotsnik and cybork bodies for all
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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junk wrote:Okay so according to this, for 5ppm all my gk interceptors with NFw swords can have iron haloes?
Sure. And don't forget that they get "don't press dat!" if the uncontrollable grotznik runs near them.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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