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2012/08/02 17:59:02
Subject: Aussie billionaire wants real life Jurassic Park.
I concur, Aslong as he doesnt let a fat guy run the computer system.
Also, Would we then have Raptor riding as an olympic sport?
This would make me actually take up hunting.
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2012/08/02 18:04:11
Subject: Re:Aussie billionaire wants real life Jurassic Park.
Think he pull it off? Its an individual with his own resource and not the government
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2012/08/02 18:04:19
Subject: Aussie billionaire wants real life Jurassic Park.
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Jihadin wrote:Think he pull it off? Its an individual with his own resource and not the government
Its possable.
Dino DNA isn't exactly difficult to come by(frozen bones were found in Alaska of about 12 species IIRC) so its really a matter of creating a viable way of germinating an Embryo in an artificial setting(test tube dinos)
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He and his team have made the most progress in reengineering dinosaurs, and even they aren't having much success.
For those of you blocked at work, the premise is that a study of dinosaurs has revealed that they grow very much like birds do, exhibiting juvenile traits well into about 70% maturation before the adult features begin to grow. Further study also revealed that female dinosaurs also exhibited the same reproductive biology as birds do. I'm not up on my understanding of it, but, the gist is that "pregnant" birds have certain hormones which cause a certain change in the bones of the animal, and one dinosaur discovered exhibited the same kind of change in its bones. The conclusion is that while some dinosaurs went reptilian, others went avian.
To check out the links, they studied a chicken embryo and noted a few things. Chickens grow ridiculously long tails, before then shrinking back. The wings actually grow into arms with things that could conceivable look like claws, before another hormone kicks in and mutates that into the wing, elongating many of the bones. Disturbingly, the embrios do actually exhibit tooth growth, before these too resorb. They've found some of the horomones and turned them off, and succeeded in getting the teeth to stay longer and a longer tail, but, obviously, with it being a case study, it's not made it past the embryonic stage.
The moral of the story though, is that they've tried to extract DNA from dinosaur bones, going so far as getting a mobile lab that they can bring on site to begin testing immediately once the bone is out of the ground. It's not going to happen though, because the DNA is too corroded to get any of it, though they have found some interesting capillary tisues by dissolving the bones in acid, but that's about it.
The moral: reverse engineering a chicken into a Chickenosaurus is entirely possible. Getting actual DNA from something thats long long long long long dead is not possible.
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2012/08/02 19:41:06
Subject: Re:Aussie billionaire wants real life Jurassic Park.
Remember... back in the "dino age", there air we breathe is different.
There were a lot high concentration of Oxygen than we do now...
What this entails is that a dino didn't have to "work as hard" to get the oxygen needed as we do now.
Therefore, their finite bio-energies were spent to evolve into other things (larger bodies) rather than supporting the chemical oxygen exchange rate like the critters living today.
TL;DR = If a Dino was cloned, it probably couldn't grow that much larger than an elephant (largest land animal).
Edit: if you ever been to a citrus or apple farm... you'll notice that the trees are never taller than 10ft. That because those trees have a "finite" amount of energy. If the tree is 20 ft tall, then it has limited energy for fruit productions compared to a 10ft tree.
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2012/08/02 21:21:16
Subject: Re:Aussie billionaire wants real life Jurassic Park.
Looks like he's creating modern dinosaurs then.....would that improve the veloceraptor....better be a deep deep dddeeeeeeeppppp pit
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2012/08/02 21:31:54
Subject: Re:Aussie billionaire wants real life Jurassic Park.
Jihadin wrote:Looks like he's creating modern dinosaurs then.....would that improve the veloceraptor....better be a deep deep dddeeeeeeeppppp pit
Velociraptors weren't very big.
6 feet long (although most of that is tail), but only 1 and a half feet tall, and weighing 30 lbs. So, it's almost the same size as my Beagle, it his tail grew another few feet.
Good info Grak. As a responsible gun owner I know for a fact I can put one down with 5.56mm fire....then detonate the claymores that surrounding to get the rest that I know are waiting for me to commit towards their "bait"
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2012/08/02 21:37:09
Subject: Re:Aussie billionaire wants real life Jurassic Park.
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Is it any wonder that an Aussie of all people wants to fill the world with even more deadly creatures. No? Didn't think so. It will be interesting to see how far this project makes it. It appears though that this may be a case of "more cents then sense".
Hollywood is collectively stupid, and has a grasp on science that is poorer than my ten year old nephew's.
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2012/08/03 00:54:40
Subject: Aussie billionaire wants real life Jurassic Park.
Australia is the prefect place to reintroduce 'new' species. It worked real well for rabbits.
Allowing for what else lives in Oz dinosaurs are relatively harmless.
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2012/08/03 01:09:44
Subject: Aussie billionaire wants real life Jurassic Park.
They will never match the drop bears in lethality.
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2012/08/03 01:30:49
Subject: Aussie billionaire wants real life Jurassic Park.
I really doubt that raptors would be much more dangerous then Komodo dragons. Which means they can be a threat, yeah. To native people who have about the same technology level as caveman.
An old lady banging a stick on the ground would be safe...
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2012/08/03 01:36:23
Subject: Re:Aussie billionaire wants real life Jurassic Park.
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Well, Raptors do have the advantage of being a pack animal, not to mention a more agile body. Komodo Dragons don't hunt in packs, organized ones anyway.
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Grey Templar wrote:Well, Raptors do have the advantage of being a pack animal, not to mention a more agile body. Komodo Dragons don't hunt in packs, organized ones anyway.
Komodo Dragons have a very distinctive bone structure, closer in posture to dogs than crocs, for exemple, so I'm not sure about them being less agile than raptors. Anyhow. What matters the most is that this might help us answer the ageless question ; Raptor pack Vs Sliverback, Who Is Deadliest ???
(Gorilla of course)
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2012/08/03 02:15:41
Subject: Aussie billionaire wants real life Jurassic Park.
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Being a pack animal, I wonder if Raptors would be trainable. Like how humans trained wolves and eventually we have dogs. I want a pet raptor!
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Coolyo294 wrote:I bet velociraptor would taste like chicken.
Since velociraptors were some of the most lethal predators on the planet, they might wonder if WE taste like chicken.
Bon appetit', er Cheers.
Hows that for the ultimate dining experience? Eat it before it eats you.
Suddenly I see the appeal for Ork face-eating Squig contests. Could be the ultimate blood sport. Might as well have dinner and a show.
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Hows that for the ultimate dining experience? Eat it before it eats you.
I see two advertisement companies on this. One for human that says "Whats for dinner" and the other "Ultimate home protection"
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2012/08/03 03:17:43
Subject: Aussie billionaire wants real life Jurassic Park.
Are you mentally able and physicaly fit to even try it?
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