Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

TBH, I don't think Adeptus Titanicus isn't selling as well for its game than its miniatures. To me, it's a gold mine for people always wanting a Legio Titanicus without the question of buying FW or just room on their shelves, but not especially who want absolutely to play.

It's typically the kind of game you enjoy in a group of like-minded friends, rather than seeing it constantly on the competitive scene.

So I can understand why it sells so good, but also we don't see games that much in "public space".

Eh, it’s something I’ll be playing behind closed doors. And that’s another three or four players accounted for,

Not being seen to be played is not the same as not being played

 Sarouan wrote:
TBH, I don't think Adeptus Titanicus isn't selling as well for its game than its miniatures. To me, it's a gold mine for people always wanting a Legio Titanicus without the question of buying FW or just room on their shelves, but not especially who want absolutely to play.

It's typically the kind of game you enjoy in a group of like-minded friends, rather than seeing it constantly on the competitive scene.

So I can understand why it sells so good, but also we don't see games that much in "public space".

Its hard to tell if its being played enough, but going by Wayland's stock count the minis seem to sell.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Eh, it’s something I’ll be playing behind closed doors. And that’s another three or four players accounted for,

Not being seen to be played is not the same as not being played

You come outside this instant! From now on you are the face of Adeptus Titanicus!

Shan’t!

It’s cold out there, and cosy warm in here!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Eh, it’s something I’ll be playing behind closed doors. And that’s another three or four players accounted for,

Not being seen to be played is not the same as not being played

For players without a local gaming club that only play games at their FLGS or Warhammer store, they are the same thing. If I can't post on the Facebook page and get someone to schedule a game with me, it really doesn't matter if everyone in SW FL is playing in their house, I won't be able to get a game.

Have....have you tried FB AT groups?

Got to start somewhere?

I've found the folks on the FB AT group to be a good community. Lots of discussion and support, as well as some great hobby ideas.

Just don't mention the war(3d printing, or anything other than Official(tm) GW(tm) Miniatures(tm) in general).

 Yodhrin wrote:
Just don't mention the war(3d printing, or anything other than Official(tm) GW(tm) Miniatures(tm) in general).

Hi!

Yup. The reason why I and other "epic fans" left that group. I can only take that type of fanboyism in small doses.

No big loss, they made another AT focused group where such silly censuring does not exist.

Primarch1

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Have....have you tried FB AT groups?

Got to start somewhere?

Yup. I've asked 3 times about a month apart from each other about anyone in all of Southwest Florida that plays AT. I check the map weekly. I am the only player in a 2 hour radius of my house. I would have to drive 3+ hours to West Palm Beach for the closest player. I've called every FLGS and Warhammer store within 2 hours of me. None of them stock it, none of them have had to special order it for any of their customers, none of them have ever seen anyone playing a game in their store.

 Toofast wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Have....have you tried FB AT groups?

Got to start somewhere?

Yup. I've asked 3 times about a month apart from each other about anyone in all of Southwest Florida that plays AT. I check the map weekly. I am the only player in a 2 hour radius of my house. I would have to drive 3+ hours to West Palm Beach for the closest player. I've called every FLGS and Warhammer store within 2 hours of me. None of them stock it, none of them have had to special order it for any of their customers, none of them have ever seen anyone playing a game in their store.

It will be interesting to see how much GW backs this horse in the first half of 2019. They have had all of late 2018 to get the miniature range up to speed and to allow the youtube community to review and promote the game.

With a little luck, Titandeath could be the real introduction of AT...

So far, it is a bust. The groups in FB consists of mainly fanboys who are more interested in painting the models than anything else. How can you tell? They have many more models than necessary to field a standard game. In comparison to other GW specialist game, including its original version in 1988, this game can be considered dead in water if not saved by the power of social media like FB. I hope that Titandeath will stir up more interest but, following GW for more than 20 years, I doubt it very much. Although the game is pretty balanced at the moment, the introduction of fraction specific rules will likely kill it. But for the fanboys and collectors, who cares? It is better that the game does not evolve.

wildger wrote:
So far, it is a bust. The groups in FB consists of mainly fanboys who are more interested in painting the models than anything else. How can you tell? They have many more models than necessary to field a standard game. In comparison to other GW specialist game, including its original version in 1988, this game can be considered dead in water if not saved by the power of social media like FB. I hope that Titandeath will stir up more interest but, following GW for more than 20 years, I doubt it very much. Although the game is pretty balanced at the moment, the introduction of fraction specific rules will likely kill it. But for the fanboys and collectors, who cares? It is better that the game does not evolve.

Interesting subjective opinions.

Lord knows no one who plays 40K has more figures than they could field in a standard game.

I just bought a box of Cerastus and my FLGS stocks almost everything for it. Currently I dont play and with the expense of rules & terrain (thats not useable for anything else) I might not. Hopefully with a little break in my 40k budget i can get another box of Cerastus, 2 reavers and 4 warhounds(only models I want to own).

I would also be fine just collecting & painting them.

But just like how they've rolled out necromunda it's not ideal but I guess it could ALWAYS be worse.

wildger wrote:
So far, it is a bust. The groups in FB consists of mainly fanboys who are more interested in painting the models than anything else. How can you tell? They have many more models than necessary to field a standard game. In comparison to other GW specialist game, including its original version in 1988, this game can be considered dead in water if not saved by the power of social media like FB. I hope that Titandeath will stir up more interest but, following GW for more than 20 years, I doubt it very much. Although the game is pretty balanced at the moment, the introduction of fraction specific rules will likely kill it. But for the fanboys and collectors, who cares? It is better that the game does not evolve.

Ah yes. That's why there's all those battle reports. Not interested in gaming...yeah right.

Keep on dreaming your fantasy land that ignores evidence to contrary.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 schoon wrote:

wildger wrote:
So far, it is a bust. The groups in FB consists of mainly fanboys who are more interested in painting the models than anything else. How can you tell? They have many more models than necessary to field a standard game. In comparison to other GW specialist game, including its original version in 1988, this game can be considered dead in water if not saved by the power of social media like FB. I hope that Titandeath will stir up more interest but, following GW for more than 20 years, I doubt it very much. Although the game is pretty balanced at the moment, the introduction of fraction specific rules will likely kill it. But for the fanboys and collectors, who cares? It is better that the game does not evolve.

Interesting subjective opinions.

Lord knows no one who plays 40K has more figures than they could field in a standard game.

Yeah. Who cares about such things as options. As it is to have every option you can field titan wise you need: 3 warlord, 3 reaver, 4 warhounds. That if you don't use multi maniple games(which I do so I would need even more). That's not accounting for knights.

Also 2 legions is more than justifiable for gaming purposes. A) introducing others b) generally HH age players care about fluff more than 40k players. Loyal vs loyal while can be justifiable is much less sensible than loyal vs traitor. Especially on events. I go to event I can easily take either side depending on what the ratio is with others. Ergo one of both actually serves multiple purposes.

wildger wrote:
So far, it is a bust. The groups in FB consists of mainly fanboys who are more interested in painting the models than anything else. How can you tell? They have many more models than necessary to field a standard game. In comparison to other GW specialist game, including its original version in 1988, this game can be considered dead in water if not saved by the power of social media like FB. I hope that Titandeath will stir up more interest but, following GW for more than 20 years, I doubt it very much. Although the game is pretty balanced at the moment, the introduction of fraction specific rules will likely kill it. But for the fanboys and collectors, who cares? It is better that the game does not evolve.

You're also ignoring the fact that online tends to only ever have the most keen and enthusiastic posting heavily? Heck to a poll and you'd likely find many long term Dakka users own many thousands of points of models way above what could ever be used at the same time outside of an apoc game. Many imght even have collections that span decades.

So yes you get people with big collections online; however if people are building big collections it means there's something worth getting in the game itself and a market. I fail to see how a game that sold out of the most expensive boxed set GW ever released almost on the same week it launched - ergo exceeded GW's sales figures - is a dead game. Certianly its not played everywhere like 40K is, but its far from a dead duck.
Plus as you say its got 1 faction with it at present, strong sales on a game that is basically built with 1 army is really impressive! I figure once Chaos and Xenos start to roll out GW will see increased sales of the game from customers who want more variety than just Imperial titans.

 Overread wrote:
You're also ignoring the fact that online tends to only ever have the most keen and enthusiastic posting heavily? Heck to a poll and you'd likely find many long term Dakka users own many thousands of points of models way above what could ever be used at the same time outside of an apoc game. Many imght even have collections that span decades.

~12200 pts orks(maybe more thanks to codex and some small additions)
5150 pts IG
~3200 pts Knights

Some blood angels as well.

Many players don't just want "2000 and done" type of armies. Options add up points like no time. Above nutty orks isn't even THAT unreasonable. IT didn't have that weird many boyz pre-codex(post-codex too many boyz unless you want to play around different clans) and there's no huge amount of spam of anything. Generally good if I have 2 units like battlewagons. Only stompa's is overrepresented with 2(but hey when you basically get 2nd for free...)

A total bust that has the three longest threads by far in this section XD

Man, this thread is some weird joke. I can't believe it's seventeen pages long, full of personal anecdotes and no data, with a handful of people who seem incredibly desirous for Adeptus Titanicus to fail for some bizarro reasons.

Personally, for me - it is January 2019 and I just now have had time to start assembling my Grand Master Edition. Last year's summer release schedule was so jam packed, most of the latter half of 2018 for me was playing Middle-earth and Kill Team.

That didn't stop me from buying AT stuff, though - in addition to the GME, I have purchased the Plasma Warlord, Warhounds, 2 sets of Cerastus Knights, and the Reaver, in addition to a couple packs of command terminals and the titan weapon decks, plus the Civitas Sector box and another accessory sprue. Just got my yellow paints that I need to start making them Fureans. Can't wait for the next Reaver and the new book to come out, and look forward to playing against one of the half dozen or so gents I know also bought the game (several of whom are in the same position as myself).

tneva82 wrote:

Ah yes. That's why there's all those battle reports. Not interested in gaming...yeah right.

Keep on dreaming your fantasy land that ignores evidence to contrary.

All what battle reports? If I go to a 40k group, I see people talking about upcoming events, recent games, asking about what list they should take, etc. I'm on the AT group and check it almost daily. At least 90% of the content in that group is "here are my painted models/conversions". It's a model showcase group. Nobody ever talks about upcoming events (probably because there aren't many), posts battle reports, or posts lists to be critiqued. I've seen maybe 3 people post about actually playing a game in the last week. Everyone else is just showing off models. I would love to find anyone closer than 3 hours away to play the game with. Somehow I can find games of 40, AoS, WMH, Infinity, Xwing, Star Wars, the Fallout miniatures game, or Blood Bowl within a 20 minute drive. It's not like wargames aren't played here, but AT certainly isn't.

People don't post all that many battle reports for 40K or Fantasy games either and they are far from dead. Battle reports take lots of time and are often a lesser thing.

Heck if we measure battle reports then I'm fairly sure Infinity, SW Armada and Malifaux are 100% dead games.

 Toofast wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

Ah yes. That's why there's all those battle reports. Not interested in gaming...yeah right.

Keep on dreaming your fantasy land that ignores evidence to contrary.

All what battle reports? If I go to a 40k group, I see people talking about upcoming events, recent games, asking about what list they should take, etc. I'm on the AT group and check it almost daily. At least 90% of the content in that group is "here are my painted models/conversions". It's a model showcase group. Nobody ever talks about upcoming events (probably because there aren't many), posts battle reports, or posts lists to be critiqued. I've seen maybe 3 people post about actually playing a game in the last week. Everyone else is just showing off models. I would love to find anyone closer than 3 hours away to play the game with. Somehow I can find games of 40, AoS, WMH, Infinity, Xwing, Star Wars, the Fallout miniatures game, or Blood Bowl within a 20 minute drive. It's not like wargames aren't played here, but AT certainly isn't.

How many BR's you are expecting? Going for quick check there I found 5 posts of games posted within past 24 hours. Could have checked longer but my internet is seriously slow. Tactics post as well have been there.

Either we aren't in same forum(ADEPTUS TITANICUS 2018) or you aren't really looking at there skipping everything.

For comparison looking at 40k battle reports on this forum...3 battle reports since yesterday. Not too bad for busted game equaling game reports to dakkadakka. Nobody is claiming AT is equally popular to 40k and dakkadakka is "bit" older and as such has "few" more members yet more reports of battles than dakkadakka has for 40k!

Not bad for busted game. If this is GW's level of busted they are in pretty good situation. Clearly even their busted would be huge success for many other companies.

Since August I've only got the Chrimbo White Dwarf.

Have they done any battle reports since "First Blood" in the August edition?

You guys remember this old gem?

AGE OF SIGMAR IS IT FAILING AND WHY https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/670688.page

 judgedoug wrote:
You guys remember this old gem?

AGE OF SIGMAR IS IT FAILING AND WHY https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/670688.page

Not to go off-topic with AOS, but like AT, I don't understand why people feel they cannot use their older models with an updated system. I personally don't go as far as tournaments but surely even an offical venue would accept that the models are still official GW products despite their age?

It would look totally ridiculous if someone said "Your Skeletons are not from the current catalogue! Remove yourself from our fair table!"

For Titanicus, so long as you mount that old Warlord Titan to a base the same size and shape as the new one, then who would care? The weapon options are laid out on it's terminal with cards...

True line of sight is a thing in AT. It's a big advantage to have old models half the size of their modern counterparts.

Not if both parties are using the same range

Me, I’m reading Titan Death.

So far, there are three classes mentioned which I don’t recognise in terms of example models.

Rapier, described as lighter than a Warhound. Nightgaunt (formerly a sub-class Of Warlord) and Carnivore (no description or historical touchstone)

Add in the Nemesis, and that’s at least four new classes we might expect. Well, five if we include the Warrior class noted but again, not described, in Imperator.

I've seen some people in my store play the game, and the models are often being constructed and painted there (yes I know, personal anecdote). As for myself, it seems interesting and the models look fantastic, but when I've looked inside the rulebook, the game looks like advanced calculus to me. Now, if they did expansions with true Chaos Titans and Knights that could use real Warp powers in addition to the usual firepower, I might be tempted to get into it.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Not if both parties are using the same range

Actually yes. Remember los isn't mutual in at. You can have los to target while target can't return.

 gorgon wrote:
True line of sight is a thing in AT. It's a big advantage to have old models half the size of their modern counterparts.

Oh right. Dang.