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Max. The reasoning for Reptilian overlords or least what was stated is "Its another company doing it and they set the price". Are you saying the Damned are not a "Wargames Atlantic" product and the "partners" are setting the price? Or is this the new pricing scheme that is coming? The comment quoted above talks about inflation and cost increases but didnt Hudson make a big statement that costs really went up like $.03 a year or so back? And "prices will be announced for shipping" Makes it sound like shipping will be another charge, which while reasonable in the grand scheme... you guys do have free shipping at retail. I am in the "wait and see" camp... but I think this feels like a company policy change with increased prices to see if the market will "bear it". Still a fan... and hope I am wrong
As far as the responding team member is aware, this is not a "see if the market will bear it" situation, and the pricing is slightly higher because of other factors.
If the team member in that image capture is saying it's because of additional costs associated with crowdfunding AND additional handling costs from picking mix and match orders vs multiples of one type of box, that's what I'd believe until more information is available on the gamefound page.
I'll certainly run your concerns up the chain, but I would also suggest you comment on the campaign preview page.
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(Also, it looks like we'll have more close-ups on the command squad and the artillery soon)
Also, look at the stretch goals:
-It's confirmed that the Hounds box will have 18 handlers and hounds (so, yes, doggies!!!!!)
-The artillery is made of 3 pieces
-The vehicle upgrades are 2 sprues
(Also, it looks like we'll have more close-ups on the command squad and the artillery soon)
Also, look at the stretch goals:
-It's confirmed that the Hounds box will have 18 handlers and hounds (so, yes, doggies!!!!!)
-The artillery is made of 3 pieces
-The vehicle upgrades are 2 sprues
Thank you so much for confirming about the Hounds (why was that so difficult?) I'm hoping they look really good because for some reason I just don't see many good sculpts of dogs. Now I can start figuring out how many boxes I might want.
Garrac wrote: And from all the close-ups and previews and the such I'd say WA is not interested on doing psykers atm tho
Maybe those will be on the mutations sprue?
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The News and Rumors section is all about surprises. I'd certainly hate it if we got 100 posts saying "I know something you don't know..." - malfred
Thank you so much for confirming about the Hounds (why was that so difficult?) I'm hoping they look really good because for some reason I just don't see many good sculpts of dogs. Now I can start figuring out how many boxes I might want.
I'm still waiting for a confirmation on the shipment deals. I hope many stretch goals get unlocked very early so I can grab the 5-box deal, as I'm only interested on the brutes and the command squad from the first half (I already own too many infantry lol)
OnTableTop interview - they confirm that they are working on more generic less chaos style heads. Looks like Brutes get 1 shield per 3 as they take up too much space on the sprue but they might add shields to other sprues such as the command sprue if there is space
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Thank you so much for confirming about the Hounds (why was that so difficult?) I'm hoping they look really good because for some reason I just don't see many good sculpts of dogs. Now I can start figuring out how many boxes I might want.
I'm still waiting for a confirmation on the shipment deals. I hope many stretch goals get unlocked very early so I can grab the 5-box deal, as I'm only interested on the brutes and the command squad from the first half (I already own too many infantry lol)
Yeah, I'm of a similar mindset. I just want a sampling until my financials improve.
The News and Rumors section is all about surprises. I'd certainly hate it if we got 100 posts saying "I know something you don't know..." - malfred
Very nice to see the outrider in more detail. I had assumed I'd want to add entirely new torsos to the riders to make non -chaos versions, but those should be just fine simply by filling/repairing the gashes in the armor. And new heads of course.
At this point The only question is, after Brutes and outriders, which will be my third set?
Eilif wrote: Very nice to see the outrider in more detail. I had assumed I'd want to add entirely new torsos to the riders to make non -chaos versions, but those should be just fine simply by filling/repairing the gashes in the armor. And new heads of course.
Seems a lot of work to make the ramshackle chaos dudes into not so ramshackle chaos dudes. Are there other good Sci Fi riders out there?
I thought I someone (maybe WGA) making WWI riders, they might be a better base than trying to turn the Darned into something else.
I feel like it's easy to guess that the female infantry will have the same number of models as the base infantry but I'm curious on the number of sprues for the mutations, heavy infantry and power armor that WGA expects for those kits. Not that it matters for me. Only unlocks will determine my buy in level now.
The News and Rumors section is all about surprises. I'd certainly hate it if we got 100 posts saying "I know something you don't know..." - malfred
legionaires wrote: I feel like it's easy to guess that the female infantry will have the same number of models as the base infantry but I'm curious on the number of sprues for the mutations, heavy infantry and power armor that WGA expects for those kits. Not that it matters for me. Only unlocks will determine my buy in level now.
Me too... Though I am considering the 10 box deal if lots of stuff are unlocked...
Right now I want:
Ogres,
Basic infantry
Command...
But if lots of stuff unlock I may do the 10 box deal and get
Command, Artillery, Rough RIders, Ogres
and 6 boxes of females and make an all female (with ogres) army. See if I can find any of the old Plastic german dusk walkers to use with it.
Looks like WGA updated the free sprues for the stretch goals to sprues from their Cannon Fodder range. That's meh for me but I'm sure some folks will be excited. I guess they adjusted were the Female infantry, heavy infantry and power armored minis would be added in as goals.
Hopefully that adjustment doesn't hurt the campaign.
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The News and Rumors section is all about surprises. I'd certainly hate it if we got 100 posts saying "I know something you don't know..." - malfred
legionaires wrote: Looks like WGA updated the free sprues for the stretch goals to sprues from their Cannon Fodder range. That's meh for me but I'm sure some folks will be excited. I guess they adjusted were the Female infantry, heavy infantry and power armored minis would be added in as goals.
Hopefully that adjustment doesn't hurt the campaign.
Yeah... that is kind of disappointing. I already have both Cannon fodders sets... Oh well
Garrac wrote: Oooooh, they've taken out the female damned infantry from the free rewards. That sucks.
Yep and confirmed that it's Cannon Fodder sprues.
At this point, it will just be a matter of the tank and what else unlocks for me. Outside of the base infantry, everything else I want is in the stretch goals. I want to hope this blows up but I'm also mentally prepared for just average. Hopefully there is enough in the vehicle extras sprue to make technicals.
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The News and Rumors section is all about surprises. I'd certainly hate it if we got 100 posts saying "I know something you don't know..." - malfred
I really hope a lot of the folk in the FB group that keep saying they'd buy huge guard (Deathfields) armies if 'everything' was available show up to the KS
I think I can afford a 5 box deal although i'm sure i'll want more if it all unlocks
Garrac wrote: Oooooh, they've taken out the female damned infantry from the free rewards. That sucks.
Yep and confirmed that it's Cannon Fodder sprues.
At this point, it will just be a matter of the tank and what else unlocks for me. Outside of the base infantry, everything else I want is in the stretch goals. I want to hope this blows up but I'm also mentally prepared for just average. Hopefully there is enough in the vehicle extras sprue to make technicals.
I was very disapointed so I checked their Facebook and they say this:
As Tuesday comes ever closer we have been hard at work refining The Damned campaign. Tomorrow we should have everything in it's final form (including announcing shipping costs) and how it all works. Today we wanted to show off all the FREE STUFF you'll get depending on whether you're pledging for 3, 5, 10, or 15 boxes!
BUT JUST LIKE A LATE NIGHT INFOMERCIAL…
BUT WAIT…THERE’S MORE!
With your support we can take this campaign to new heights! If we are lucky enough to break past $500K (tell your friends!) then here are some of the other stretch goals we have in store:
Fully Painted Damned Army from Cult of Paint!
The Damned Female Infantry
A sprue to Damn-ify your plastic tanks and other vehicles
The Damned Heavy Infantry
A sprue of sci-fi terrain for your battlefield
The Damned Power Armor
Extra Frames of Parts for Each of the Original Sets (more poses, more bits!)
Alternate mounts for the Outriders
The Damned Scout Snipers
The Damned Gene-edited Hybrids
A FREE vehicle for all backers!
Bases in every set!
And potentially much more…it’s really up to you!
Now we don’t want to tempt the Hubris Gods but we also don’t want to be caught flat-footed if the response is as crazy as some of you have told us it will be! We’ll know soon! Thanks for backing us and helping us make The Damned a reality!
Click here to follow the campaign (which also gets you a FREE sprue of Damned Infantry when you back!
So they might arrive, but only if some more unknown stretch goals are unlocked. I really hope it doesnt take too much...
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I want to pledge to get stuff. I never could go crazy with a pledge. Right now I’m waiting to see what the rewards are when the campaign finally drops so I can measure the value of the rewards against their cost and long wait time. The initial prices and pledge tiers surprised me in an unpleasant way.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: I want to pledge to get stuff. I never could go crazy with a pledge. Right now I’m waiting to see what the rewards are when the campaign finally drops so I can measure the value of the rewards against their cost and long wait time. The initial prices and pledge tiers surprised me in an unpleasant way.
From what I've read at Gamefound, you are not the only one feeling this way. Crowdfunding is essentially an interest-free loan where the backers, not the company, assumes the risk. As such, I believe that said company should sweeten the pot significantly, or I'll wait for retail and shop for a discount.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: I want to pledge to get stuff. I never could go crazy with a pledge. Right now I’m waiting to see what the rewards are when the campaign finally drops so I can measure the value of the rewards against their cost and long wait time. The initial prices and pledge tiers surprised me in an unpleasant way.
From what I've read at Gamefound, you are not the only one feeling this way. Crowdfunding is essentially an interest-free loan where the backers, not the company, assumes the risk. As such, I believe that said company should sweeten the pot significantly, or I'll wait for retail and shop for a discount.
Agree. I found the answer of "Its more expensive because of the costs of crowdfunding" dissatisfying. Crowdfunders are usually better deals because you are asking for my money in advance beyond even a preorder in time. I shouldnt be paying more AND waiting longer.... And from the comments about how they will let us know the shipping prices so we know "exactly what we will pay" Does sound like shipping will be an extra expense where as over 5 boxes on their retail page it is not... So... Its more expensive, will take longer and I have to py shipping on top of that... My interest is still here... but rapidly declining... and the change out to free cannon fodder sprues didnt help that either...
Eilif wrote: Very nice to see the outrider in more detail. I had assumed I'd want to add entirely new torsos to the riders to make non -chaos versions, but those should be just fine simply by filling/repairing the gashes in the armor. And new heads of course.
Seems a lot of work to make the ramshackle chaos dudes into not so ramshackle chaos dudes. Are there other good Sci Fi riders out there?
I thought I someone (maybe WGA) making WWI riders, they might be a better base than trying to turn the Darned into something else.
Sci Fi riders are hard to find.
Shouldn't be hard to mod the damned outriders though. As far as can tell from the pics, the legs and arms are, fairly generic, un-spikey and undamaged. A couple of fills on each breastplate and new heads and I should be good to go.
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