Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

What are the orks main playing styles and how do they work. Are they better shooty cc or mech, and how should I move a use my units to properly match the playing style

Well good old tried and true ork is very eavy on dem krumpin melle, with spammed PK warboss, boys and/or nobz in trukk or massive blob foot slogging

In my personal opinion using both, a mech list is superior because you can avoid alot of dakka from other armies by getting your units in melle very quickly either through trukks or bikes, but the disparity is not nearly as large as it once was in fifth due the boosts 30 man squad boyz received such as not losing causality to fearless and overwatch for shoota boyz

now in terms of actually hearing helpful advice instead of my two cents go to

http://www.1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Orks

That should give information on any ork unit you might want to use

Also about movement, orks are mostly a simple race that like to be moved simply, get your waaagh! on and just charge foward shooting all the dakka you can possibly find

Yeah, ork tactics really isn't rocket-science.
1: Get close.
2: Shoot all the dakka you got.
3: Smash their faces with whatever you hold in your hands.

You can actually take 2 Warbosses w/PK etc. and 8 x 30 boyz squads with nobz and PKs @ 2000 points, but that would be silly. Not to mention, it'd take 3 days to complete one movement phase. The difficult thing, in my opinion, is if you want anything even slightly more interesting than 242 infantry models slogging up the board, is list building.

Orks have a lot of units which are only decent, even when they get to do exactly what they're supposed to, which they almost never do. But they have almost no units which are purely excellent, and none which can do more than one task reasonably well. All orks, however, are pretty easy to deal with (with the possible exception of meganobz and nob bikers, but even they are pretty squishy.)

ffs, again.

Guys, before you reply, click his name and his previously posted threads.

Every thread he makes, he spams for advice on certain armies, ignores advice, then makes more threads on the same subject.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I'm really not against helping new players, but it gets to a point where its just too much...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/488813.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/488626.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/483913.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/485402.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/484977.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/482287.page

Dragonzord wrote:
ffs, again.

Guys, before you reply, click his name and his previously posted threads.

Every thread he makes, he spams for advice on certain armies, ignores advice, then makes more threads on the same subject.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I'm really not against helping new players, but it gets to a point where its just too much...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/488813.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/488626.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/483913.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/485402.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/484977.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/482287.page

Soz, dude. I just don't make a habit of background checking every OP I reply to.

neither do i, but this guy makes a thread every week asking the same question...

Hey, n00b! Why are you doing that, eh?

It's not for the same army, and I can if I want you don't have to look at it or even reply like the guy who like spy's on me a knows when I make a post, he always bashes me sooo the moral to the story is don't be a nag like him

Maybe he is getting into the hobby and is getting a feel for armies he is interested in? I dont see the problem with wanting to learn more knowledge on this game. Its how we all improve. gak man, chill out

Orks can run hordes of guys on foot, tons of bikes, lots of walkers, lots of elite infantry, transports and much more.

The only think orks can't really do is shoot well. They have lots of shots, but if you're fighting a shooting army with orks, it's going to be hard.

That's exactly what I'm doing kingcracker, finally someone gets it. Ok so cc is basically all you can do with ork but that's exactly what I want, what way would be the cheapest $ wise

 Noob9405 wrote:
That's exactly what I'm doing kingcracker, finally someone gets it. Ok so cc is basically all you can do with ork but that's exactly what I want, what way would be the cheapest $ wise

Money shouldn't be your basis for building an army. Armies are goals requiring dedication. They grow over time and take months to form. It's sortof a labor of love.

Don't worry about having a full, playable army right away. Rather, slowly accumulate an army that you'll enjoy playing. It'll be more worthwhile in the end.

For instance, I could have dropped 300 bucks my first month in a game, and played Mech Guard. But I wanted to play Air Cavalry Guard. So I took my time, bought stuff over the next few months, and I still use the army to this day because it was the one that I wanted, not the one I could afford at the time.

True say I heists ur right, well what is the plan for each style of orks


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Guess not heist

Anyone that says "Orks arnt good at shooting" has never played a GOOD shooty Ork list. I focus on shooting most the time, and I can hold my own against most other "shooty" armies with the exception of a few, for example, long shooting Tau. feth me, they just cant be out shot by anyone it seems

Trust me, Orks can shoot. Now a single Ork wont hit squat, but his 20+ other buddies certainly will. We make up for it in volume of shots. Ive blown entire units off the table in a shooting phase with just shootas. So it can and does, get done.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
But I agree with The Captain, thats how I buy my Orks.

Hmm ok, but I still don't know really how I want to go

Well what army/s do you actually have? Or are you a fresh new guy to 40k?

 TheCaptain wrote:

 Noob9405 wrote:
That's exactly what I'm doing kingcracker, finally someone gets it. Ok so cc is basically all you can do with ork but that's exactly what I want, what way would be the cheapest $ wise

For instance, I could have dropped 300 bucks my first month in a game, and played Mech Guard. But I wanted to play Air Cavalry Guard. So I took my time, bought stuff over the next few months, and I still use the army to this day because it was the one that I wanted, not the one I could afford at the time.

^ This. I did the same thing with my last army, which was IG. I built a list I wanted to run, and then bought stuff that got me closer to that list, and nothing else. Didn't take long before I had the 2K list I wanted. I'm doing the same with my new Ork army. And having done this, I can add stuff to it so I can change the list up for different games, and still have a strong army.

When I started my blood angels army, I had no clear direction, and just bought what I thought was a good idea at the time, and the result is an army which I hardly ever play anymore. Why? Because I have tons of random stuff, none of which really works together. Now, it wouldn't take a lot of money to add some new stuff to what I have to make a functioning list, but that'll be my next project.

As noob as they come, although I've been researching for like a month

Research is the way to go. Once you get all the info your looking for, the best advice I can give, is honestly think about which army you think is the coolest, or draws you in more, or whatever the reason for liking it more is, and go with that army. DO NOT start 40k with an army that will win you more battles. Simply because that army, no matter how many victories, will get boring fast, and when you work on it, you wont really give a gak. Where as if you pick the army you want, because you liked it first, youll care, youll enjoy working on it. Then from there, you can learn how to kick ass with it.

No matter the army, you can learn ways on how to win battles with it

I like orks and how you can convert and make stuff, but I love terminators and power fists and claws, don't get me wrong I love power klaws and nobs to

 KingCracker wrote:
Anyone that says "Orks arnt good at shooting" has never played a GOOD shooty Ork list.

Can't say if my mate's Ork list with Wazzdakka and bikers is the best, but those bikers sure put out a lot of Twinlinked dakka. ;-)

And they're not too shabby at taking apart anything they charge either. Having them supported by Deffkoptas and Trukk boyz means they can get stuck in fast while the Warboss and his Nobz in the Battlewagon arrive a bit later to take out anything that was too hard. It's a bit odd to see orks going quality over quantity but concentrating forces is an old and tried tactic.

See I don't know if I want more vehicles, bikes , or a mob


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Prob cuz I don't know how each one plays really

shooty is fun, mech is fun, but effective? 30 man boyz squads, multiple. Nuff said about orks.
Seriously though, that is about the most competitive thing with them. Or maybe bike squads.
Don't try and take a lot of vehicles or anything, just maybe a transport for like your warboss and friends.
Orks with mobs is where its at. Nothing else works quite as well.

So if I wanna stand a chance in a tourney don't take them

Best advice I've ever gotten about Orks
They do best spamming things
Don't take 1 unit, take many
and be vary aware of your strangths and weaknesses, with Orks, it's obvious

See what are there strengths and weaknesses,

My Orks roll old-style, even though it's not the optimal way to run them these days.

Trukks and BW's stuffed full of dakka, advancing upfield under a KFF's protection (or several).

I'm also inordinately fond of ork walker armies, even though 6th hasn't been kind to them.

There's something about having 9 kanz and two dreads marching and klanking upfield

Hmmkool

Strengths: Numbers, in dice rolls and fodder for enemies
Weakness: Low AV on vehicles, and low BS

Ork weaknesses:

Carboard armour, cruddy Initiative scores and lousy BS scores. Middling strength when not charging. older Xeno codex (don't tend to be as broken-ass powerful as the more recent IOM ones (and Necrons..but same writer ), Randomness in some units can lose you the game sometimes (SAG, Lootas, Weirdboyz etc)

Ork strengths:

Decent in Close combat, huge units, Can make up for lousy BS with number of shots, good toughness, can take anyone elses vehicle model and run it with an Ork army as a looted wagon. Fun conversion/modelling opportunities, Randomness can sometimes win you the game (Lootas cranking max shots every turn, SAG fooming a whole unit off to the warp, Zogwort turning the enemy general into a squig...)

All in all, Orks are for people who want to play to have fun. THey are quite capable of winning games, but the playstyle works best with someone who enjoys the way Orks work, and can accept a bit of orky randomness