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BrianDavion wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 Twoshoes23 wrote:
Anyone else notice how the Repressor was included in the Chapter Approved via points and NOT in the Sororitas section of the new Warhammer Legends website? Good news for the future of repressing maybe?


My theory is fw rereleasing with codex. If they are rereleasing that's the most logical time. If not why not in legends?


it'd be nice but I doubt it, has FW released any models for 40k (specificly not HH models that can also be used with 40k) in the last year or two? FW seems to be focusing entirely on specialsit games these days


Seeing it would be rereleasing previously done kit seems fairly low effort to grab some money when customei base increases suddenly.

Well one can hope. If not then at least one can safely convert one without woirying how often you get to use it

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tneva82 wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 Twoshoes23 wrote:
Anyone else notice how the Repressor was included in the Chapter Approved via points and NOT in the Sororitas section of the new Warhammer Legends website? Good news for the future of repressing maybe?


My theory is fw rereleasing with codex. If they are rereleasing that's the most logical time. If not why not in legends?


it'd be nice but I doubt it, has FW released any models for 40k (specificly not HH models that can also be used with 40k) in the last year or two? FW seems to be focusing entirely on specialsit games these days


Seeing it would be rereleasing previously done kit seems fairly low effort to grab some money when customei base increases suddenly.

Well one can hope. If not then at least one can safely convert one without woirying how often you get to use it


depends if the mold in is good shape.

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Redoing mold isn't that expensive for resin. Didn't make much sense before with not many sister players(most either already owning one or not buying anyway) but with codex and plastic release pool of people to sell will grow exponentially.

No quarantee but as same guys are doing fw and gw rules seems odd they would treat them differentely for legends. And if they were planning to rerelease now with codex is pretty much most logical time.

And if not...at least now converting one is safe

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tneva82 wrote:
 Twoshoes23 wrote:
Anyone else notice how the Repressor was included in the Chapter Approved via points and NOT in the Sororitas section of the new Warhammer Legends website? Good news for the future of repressing maybe?


My theory is fw rereleasing with codex. If they are rereleasing that's the most logical time. If not why not in legends?


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 BoomWolf wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
 Twoshoes23 wrote:
Anyone else notice how the Repressor was included in the Chapter Approved via points and NOT in the Sororitas section of the new Warhammer Legends website? Good news for the future of repressing maybe?


plastic repressor in a year as the sisters first post codex release?

One can hope!


AFAIK not a single FW model is on the legends file, only GW models who did not go into codcies.

So, this means nothing


Even in That case it means something. Specifically that it will stay tournament legal(and with that generally legal) and ergo conversions are safe to do.



Actually, not.
With legends being a thing now, and (I think) all armies getting codecies out-how long is it until indcies are no longer welcomed in tournaments?
Not long I reckon.

And you got to remember that a LARGE swat of FW, including the represor, have never been updated beyond index status.

can neither confirm nor deny I lost track of what I've got right now. 
   
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I imagine legends offically marks the end of indexes being a thing

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 BoomWolf wrote:

Actually, not.
With legends being a thing now, and (I think) all armies getting codecies out-how long is it until indcies are no longer welcomed in tournaments?
Not long I reckon.

And you got to remember that a LARGE swat of FW, including the represor, have never been updated beyond index status.


Well lucky that repressors aren't in the indexes GW has phased out but on their separate book. Whole FW line won't get invalidated nor did they here. Stuff in legends series will get out of tournament use. FW kits not.

Repressor is safe. Maybe one day if GW decides to do new books for FW kits that changes but so far all quiet on that front. With lead times as it is seeing new book with sister FW kits is like year or two away EARLIEST.

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tneva82 wrote:
Redoing mold isn't that expensive for resin. Didn't make much sense before with not many sister players


Except the Repressor has been in demand for years. Previous to GW's announcement of the return of Sisters the availability of the Repressor was probably the number one topic in most places where Sisters were discussed. (Was it still available? does anyone have one to sell? How do you convert it? What are good alternate models?). It regularly sells on ebay very fast (I don't think I've seen one in years that made it through its auction without a bid). There were even several makers who offered their own versions for sale (or as a free printable file). So really, anytime in the last 10 years would have been a great time for FW to re-release the model.

And its not as if FW has a problem doing super short run models. Some FW releases have a lifetime run thats ridiculously small. I don't know how often FW replaces their models, but other resin casting companies I've worked with have replaced theirs as often as every 50 models.

I'm guessing that the reason its gone out of print is that they no longer have the master. The master was either lost, broken or is enough poor enough shape that it can't really be used anymore. Apparently that happens quite a bit (I believe thats one of the reasons a lot of the FW Imperial Guard stuff was retired). Very likely creating a new original isn't a huge priority, even if it would be profitable.

Thats my guess anyway.
   
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It might be in demand by sister players but how much did sisters sell during that time? GW has sales numbers. If there's loud, loyal but small group that's not much of a potential.

Are you really claiming new codex and plastic models isn't likely to result in not that insignificant boost to sister players?

And if master is gone then yeah that would be bit of issue but even then it reinforces idea that NOW would be logical time to redo it if they ever were. There's going to be boost in demand soon for it.

Now of course it's possible they have no intention to rerelease but then why not put them in legends? Same guys who did legends are also responsible for FW model rules so they had authority to do. Seems odd to have repressor be special excemption.

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 jake wrote:
I'm guessing that the reason its gone out of print is that they no longer have the master. The master was either lost, broken or is enough poor enough shape that it can't really be used anymore. Apparently that happens quite a bit (I believe thats one of the reasons a lot of the FW Imperial Guard stuff was retired). Very likely creating a new original isn't a huge priority, even if it would be profitable.

Even if so, this just begs the question why they won't have a guy spend 1-2 hours recreating it in CAD. It was literally a resin box + cylinder with some details, something so simple even amateur would be able to do it. The only any sensible reason would be if they wanted changing it to be upgrade for new Sister Rhino, but it seems to be so similar to old one there is no reason why it wouldn't fit both...
   
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 warspawned wrote:
I posted these a few pages back:

Spoiler:





The Anvil mini is about the same height as a Neophyte, if not a 1-2mm taller but less chunky.
The new Sisters are huge.


If I didn't have a custom order already I'd call mine the Tall Order.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 Geifer wrote:

SIsters getting bigger was never in doubt. GW screwed up with plastic Cadians (whether by accident or design) and they've taken that as the basis for human size ever since. With the caveat that GW sucks at sticking to one scale, which makes things a little more complicated than that.


Even in a single kit. Some of the Cadian arms have delicate feminine hands, others look like they're earing oven mitts... The pointing hand is especially egregious.


GW has weird conventions, too. They can and do make pretty delicate boots, but once they make bare feet, they're humongous.

On that note, I can't make it out from the picture above, but I have to wonder if the new buff Repentia fit inside the new power armor. Catachans certainly had more impressive biceps that Marines could have ever hoped for, if you know what I mean.

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 Hollow wrote:
I always find the scaling debate regarding GW miniatures to be utterly ridiculous. Nothing is in scale or makes sense and it's not really meant to. It's a cartoonish OTT representation of a cartoonish OTT idea.

Which would be a fine argument if Marines hadn't just grown by a head to be more in scale...
   
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 Hollow wrote:
I always find the scaling debate regarding GW miniatures to be utterly ridiculous. Nothing is in scale or makes sense and it's not really meant to. It's a cartoonish OTT representation of a cartoonish OTT idea.



The proper term for miniatures is literally Scale Models. Thats why Scale is important.

Scale makes our armies and battles feel right. Thats why mixing 20mm scale miniatures with 32mm scale miniatures feels wrong and looks butt ugly.

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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Yup. The fact GW consistently doesn't give a gak about it doesn't mean it's "ridiculous", nor does it mean we have to give them a free pass for it.

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tneva82 wrote:
It might be in demand by sister players but how much did sisters sell during that time? GW has sales numbers. If there's loud, loyal but small group that's not much of a potential.

Are you really claiming new codex and plastic models isn't likely to result in not that insignificant boost to sister players?

And if master is gone then yeah that would be bit of issue but even then it reinforces idea that NOW would be logical time to redo it if they ever were. There's going to be boost in demand soon for it.

Now of course it's possible they have no intention to rerelease but then why not put them in legends? Same guys who did legends are also responsible for FW model rules so they had authority to do. Seems odd to have repressor be special excemption.


Loud, loyal, and small is what FW is built on.

Why else would you shell that much money for their kits? They're exorbitantly expensive. They're resin, so they're a nightmare and a half to work with. They're often available only one place, so you never even deal with store margins for third party sellers.

This is what they do, yet for whatever reason they aren't supporting the Repressor.

They really should just retire the damn thing.
   
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 Lord Damocles wrote:
 Hollow wrote:
I always find the scaling debate regarding GW miniatures to be utterly ridiculous. Nothing is in scale or makes sense and it's not really meant to. It's a cartoonish OTT representation of a cartoonish OTT idea.

Which would be a fine argument if Marines hadn't just grown by a head to be more in scale...


Pretty sure marines stayed the same. None of the current kits grew overnight or anything...

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Free Repressor STL file...

https://www.stlfinder.com/model/40k-repressor-kit-S1rorDqi/8399726/

I can't see FW bringing it back at this point.

 
   
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Voss wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
 Hollow wrote:
I always find the scaling debate regarding GW miniatures to be utterly ridiculous. Nothing is in scale or makes sense and it's not really meant to. It's a cartoonish OTT representation of a cartoonish OTT idea.

Which would be a fine argument if Marines hadn't just grown by a head to be more in scale...


Pretty sure marines stayed the same. None of the current kits grew overnight or anything...

Obviously older kits haven't changed. But Deathwatch Veterans, Thousand Sons, Death Guard, Primaris, new Chaos Marines, the Heroes series, are all noticeably taller than what came before.

   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Free Repressor STL file...

https://www.stlfinder.com/model/40k-repressor-kit-S1rorDqi/8399726/

I can't see FW bringing it back at this point.


Is it something that can be used for Marines and/or 30k or a specalist game - if not FW won;t bother

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 Lord Damocles wrote:
Which would be a fine argument if Marines hadn't just grown by a head to be more in scale...

They havent. The first part of your statement is alright, but "to be more in scale"? That's just, like, your opinion man! I think GW made them bigger because they think it looks cooler, don't care about scale at all.

For people interested in Repressor, what about



 
   
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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
Which would be a fine argument if Marines hadn't just grown by a head to be more in scale...

They havent. The first part of your statement is alright, but "to be more in scale"? That's just, like, your opinion man! I think GW made them bigger because they think it looks cooler, don't care about scale at all.

For people interested in Repressor, what about






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ohh very nice, gonna be pricy but eh so would the FW original I gather. Do you know if they ship to Canada?

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BrianDavion wrote:
ohh very nice, gonna be pricy but eh so would the FW original I gather. Do you know if they ship to Canada?


Their website says so - postage is 6.50 USD (no prices in CAD) flat rate shipping that says about 7 to 14 days to Canada.
   
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 Lord Damocles wrote:
Voss wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
 Hollow wrote:
I always find the scaling debate regarding GW miniatures to be utterly ridiculous. Nothing is in scale or makes sense and it's not really meant to. It's a cartoonish OTT representation of a cartoonish OTT idea.

Which would be a fine argument if Marines hadn't just grown by a head to be more in scale...


Pretty sure marines stayed the same. None of the current kits grew overnight or anything...

Obviously older kits haven't changed. But Deathwatch Veterans, Thousand Sons, Death Guard, Primaris, new Chaos Marines, the Heroes series, are all noticeably taller than what came before.


Ah. So by 'just grown' you mean the gradual change that started back at the 6th edition starter box?

And I'm still not sure why you're including primaris in there, since they're supposed to be (and are) taller than marines.

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 Lord Damocles wrote:
 Hollow wrote:
I always find the scaling debate regarding GW miniatures to be utterly ridiculous. Nothing is in scale or makes sense and it's not really meant to. It's a cartoonish OTT representation of a cartoonish OTT idea.

Which would be a fine argument if Marines hadn't just grown by a head to be more in scale...


Except also growing head taller in fluff. Primaris aren't in scale marines. They are in scale primaris that are taller than marines.

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tneva82 wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
 Hollow wrote:
I always find the scaling debate regarding GW miniatures to be utterly ridiculous. Nothing is in scale or makes sense and it's not really meant to. It's a cartoonish OTT representation of a cartoonish OTT idea.

Which would be a fine argument if Marines hadn't just grown by a head to be more in scale...


Except also growing head taller in fluff. Primaris aren't in scale marines. They are in scale primaris that are taller than marines.

Citation needed for them being head taller in the fluff. In thew art they're depicted almost the same size, the Primaris being only a tiny bit taller.

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Voss wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
 Hollow wrote:
I always find the scaling debate regarding GW miniatures to be utterly ridiculous. Nothing is in scale or makes sense and it's not really meant to. It's a cartoonish OTT representation of a cartoonish OTT idea.

Which would be a fine argument if Marines hadn't just grown by a head to be more in scale...

Pretty sure marines stayed the same. None of the current kits grew overnight or anything...

Yup, totally the same:



And the Deathwatch/Thousand Sons are even taller than these termies...
   
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Not sure I'm seeing how the heights of different Space Marine chapters is relevant to sisters of battle...

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tneva82 wrote:It might be in demand by sister players but how much did sisters sell during that time? GW has sales numbers. If there's loud, loyal but small group that's not much of a potential.

Are you really claiming new codex and plastic models isn't likely to result in not that insignificant boost to sister players?

And if master is gone then yeah that would be bit of issue but even then it reinforces idea that NOW would be logical time to redo it if they ever were. There's going to be boost in demand soon for it.



As was already pointed out, FW's target customer base is "loud, loyal but small". According to FW themsleves a LOT of FW kits never sell very man copies, so its not as if the potential to ONLY sell a few hundred Repressors to an established fanabse that was begging for them and eagerly buying both used and bootleg models wouldn't be worthwhile. I think its much more likely that they simply didn't have the manpower, and wanted to spend their time on new things.

And no, I'm not claiming that "new codex and plastic models isn't likely to result in not that insignificant boost to sister players?." Where did yo even get that idea? Ro was that response for someone else?

I do agree that now would be the perfect time to redo the master (if it was indeed missing or destroyed).


Irbis wrote:
 jake wrote:
I'm guessing that the reason its gone out of print is that they no longer have the master. The master was either lost, broken or is enough poor enough shape that it can't really be used anymore. Apparently that happens quite a bit (I believe thats one of the reasons a lot of the FW Imperial Guard stuff was retired). Very likely creating a new original isn't a huge priority, even if it would be profitable.

Even if so, this just begs the question why they won't have a guy spend 1-2 hours recreating it in CAD. It was literally a resin box + cylinder with some details, something so simple even amateur would be able to do it. The only any sensible reason would be if they wanted changing it to be upgrade for new Sister Rhino, but it seems to be so similar to old one there is no reason why it wouldn't fit both...


Probably because it takes longer than 1 to 2 hours to create a model? I mean, do you really think that its that simple?

Yodhrin wrote:Yup. The fact GW consistently doesn't give a gak about it doesn't mean it's "ridiculous", nor does it mean we have to give them a free pass for it.

Failing in quantity is still failing.


You're right that GW hasn't given a shot about scale in the past. Thats always been true, going back to Rogue Trader. GW models have rarely had a consistent scale across the line. You would think that after decades fans would just accept that instead of getting angry about it at literally every release.

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