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tneva82, what sort of terrain are you finding gives the most interesting games?

I'm afraid I'm normally one to overdo such things, so any input from experience is welcome!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
tneva82, what sort of terrain are you finding gives the most interesting games?

I'm afraid I'm normally one to overdo such things, so any input from experience is welcome!

Well we might be overdoing things as well but couple boards we have played at:







Looking at other people's post I think we are definitely on the heavier side of terrain.

Honestly AT is like Necromunda and Killteam - it wants terrain heavy boards. Sure you've got some clear areas and lines to shoot down, but by and large those scale of games work best when there's a lot of stuff to break up line of sight. Where knight and reavers can sneak and hide and manoeuvre around to get up close or get a good angle or pincer a warlord.

Often with those games if you're playing on very light terrain tables the experience can be far less entertaining because it often amounts to a gunline vs gunline and close combat options become far less viable (because you will just get shot to bits at range)

We've been playing with more terrain on the board, but not all of it is LOS-blocking - there's some lower buildings to act as "difficult ground" for movement, or that will shield Knights but not Titans.

We've been using 4Ground's 10mm Jesserair range (designed fro Dropzone Commander), and we've found some buildings are tall enough to grant cover to a Warlord, but narrow enough that its guns can stick out either side.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
We've been playing with more terrain on the board, but not all of it is LOS-blocking - there's some lower buildings to act as "difficult ground" for movement, or that will shield Knights but not Titans.

We've been using 4Ground's 10mm Jesserair range (designed fro Dropzone Commander), and we've found some buildings are tall enough to grant cover to a Warlord, but narrow enough that its guns can stick out either side.

Heh. The buildings we use can easily block warlord from LOS completely. You can use it to get cover but apart from trouble of getting back to move it invariably means one arm being blocked out of LOS.

What I have been thinking is we need some terrain that isn't quite as tall. Warlord visible over it but of course -1 or -2 to hit. But ATM all the buildings are hide warlord fully.

What is fun though is adding few narrow pathways where warlord can't move. Like on the 3rd picture I had. See the reaver between buildings. Warlord would need to be side stepping and at the rate of 3" a turn if pushing that takes time...

Not too much though. Terrain shouldn't be too much of a hindrance that it would railroad all movements.

Oh, there's plenty of buildings that do completely hide a Warlord; just some where it's like trying to "hide" behind a lamp post.

One thing I noticed; Since a Reaver is on a base that's 70mm front-to-back and a Warhound is on an 80mm base, you could have low structures that a Warhound can clear and a Reaver cannot.

https://twitter.com/The_M0thman/status/1056547042208681984

https://twitter.com/The_M0thman/status/1063610117210427392

Two twitter threads This is sorts of terrain we use

2 big apartment blocks that fully hide a warlord (apart from hole at bottom knights and warhounds can go through)

2 long buildings that hide reavers

1 huge wide building that covers half a warlord and fully a warhound, then tons of smaller buildings.

we tried playing lighter but found that it makes knights pointless as they just get a warlord split firing 2 volcano canons and deleting them. Alot of the smaller buildings are big enough to give cover for large titans but not enough to hide them from sight. we find it adds alot more having to consider terrain for tactics than just standing in nearly open.

Cool, thanks for the input all

Looks like it's definitely a 'play some games, develop a feel for it' type affair.

Will probs just get some of the official AT terrain, and work from there, adding in different brands as needed.

The red beam 8mm factory is also pretty good based on pic I saw of it on the facebook group £20 and pretty huge

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Cool, thanks for the input all

Looks like it's definitely a 'play some games, develop a feel for it' type affair.

Will probs just get some of the official AT terrain, and work from there, adding in different brands as needed.

Official AT terrain is rather expensive though if you want warlord hiding one...Which is why I went for the dropzone terrain one. The one on 3rd picture was from 1 set(about 30£ with shipping to Finland) and that didn't even use all I have.

Think I could get enough terrain for my taste by spending some 300-400€ on official ones. Way too much. More titans rather!

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Cool, thanks for the input all

Looks like it's definitely a 'play some games, develop a feel for it' type affair.

Will probs just get some of the official AT terrain, and work from there, adding in different brands as needed.

tneva82 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Cool, thanks for the input all

Looks like it's definitely a 'play some games, develop a feel for it' type affair.

Will probs just get some of the official AT terrain, and work from there, adding in different brands as needed.

Official AT terrain is rather expensive though if you want warlord hiding one...Which is why I went for the dropzone terrain one. The one on 3rd picture was from 1 set(about 30£ with shipping to Finland) and that didn't even use all I have.

Think I could get enough terrain for my taste by spending some 300-400€ on official ones. Way too much. More titans rather!

Yeah, the Dropzone commander buildings are PDFs on their website if you google them, I printed them for a demo game at work.

I've also seen one game played at my club where they used hills and forests - it doesn't have to be urban warfare.

I also think a lot of the Sector Mechanicus 40k terrain would work, if you hide the dials and control panels and suchlike; the assorted pipes, haemotropic reactors, the chimneys, domes and tanks, etc, would all make a layout reminiscent of the landscapes featured in the original game.

Well yeah but not many have suitable hills and forests that really block los. Would need pretty thick forrest to cover 25% of warlord.

Urban is easier to get good terrain for gaming

Trees of sufficient height are pretty easy to get hold of - and if not, it's not rocket science to say "this forest counts as being tall enough". Even Citadel Woods are probably high enough to lock LOS of a Warlord's arm weapons.

I use Dropzone buildings and Sector Mechanicus, does a good job.

I love the Civitas Imperalis designs but I've made some platicard buildings to save money. The materials came to about £3 and I still have loads of plasticard left over...

Only problem is that they are merely white cuboids. Not sure how to go about decorating them...

Even still, it would be nice to see more terrain pieces from GW.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Trees of sufficient height are pretty easy to get hold of - and if not, it's not rocket science to say "this forest counts as being tall enough". Even Citadel Woods are probably high enough to lock LOS of a Warlord's arm weapons.

It's not just height that's needed but width. That titan is big and wide. And remember AT has true LOS as the designer specifically wanted(he was against no premeasuring but pro-tlos)

Looks like the Realm of Battle boards are going up for pre-order today, they're showing up on the banner on the FW site but don't yet seem to be showing up in the store itself so no prices yet. Though I'm assuming about £80 each based on the similar 25mm scenery tiles.

Edit - Now up and yep, £80 each, or you can buy a bundle of 4 for £345! A new GW record then, usually their bundles don't save you anything (although to be fair Forgeworld's usually do), this one costs £25 more! Wonder if it's the bundle or the tiles that are mispriced!

Another edit - Actually, just realised the bundle includes one set of the plastic buildings, so not overpriced, but no discount. Guess I'll just get 2 tiles for now then and hope they release some different ones in the future, probably would have bought 4 if there was a discount for doing so.

Set of four includes some plakky buildings

Easily missed though!

The bundle also contains a box of Civitas buildings. It still doesn't save you anything, though.

Is it just me, or does the board look warped?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Set of four includes some plakky buildings

Easily missed though!

Yep, just noticed that when I actually read the description, pretty difficult to spot from the picture. Not a great deal then considering the buildings can be picked up cheaper in the sector bundle (or from a 3rd party (or both, for a double discount)) and that one set of buildings is nowhere near enough to be useful.


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Strangely, the beta sector and the bundle now seem to have completely disappeared from the FW site, though the alpha is still available. Possibly just sold out but that would seem an unusual way to handle it for a FW item on pre-order, unless there is a difference in manufacturing the tiles and they don't think they'll be able to ship them fast enough to make it sensible to take any more orders.

I was really hoping for something better on the scenery front, never been a fan of those overpriced FW boards and this is one of the worst I have seen, not sure how they justify £80.


As people on FB keep saying, if they bring out some decent LOS blocking scenery for AT people would be all over it.

Mystery solved!

Just had my order for the beta section cancelled, apparently there is an issue with it and it has been temprarily pulled from sale. Will keep my order for the alpha section so I can build some of the plastic buildings to fit it!

Suprising that they thought it was fine to go on sale this morning then within a couple of hours found a problem though, especially as the boards have been around for months, unless they started packing orders and noticed the problem. I don't know if these are made in house or outsourced (as they are manufactured differently to normal FW stuff I believe), maybe they got a bad batch from their manufacturer.

£20 gift voucher for the inconvenience though.

Tavis75 wrote:


£20 gift voucher for the inconvenience though.

Bonus !

I must admit, you cannot fault their customer service.

I think a lot of the terrain boards and Endless spells (same material at least in the Maligan Sorcery box) are made externally. Same as when they got a bad batch of the new AOS terrain and had to do a quick "er we changed the product without telling anyone in art or advertising" when its clear it was a packing mistake on all the products.

Methinks GW is dealing with the pains of an external factory - possibly in China - which if anyone follows any KS will know, they can be rather notorious for lower quality control standards.

It would also explain why the product going on sale is when they spotted the error as chances are the shipments only landed recently so they only spotted whatever problem it is now rather than weeks ago when they were in production/being shipped around the world.

factories with sloppy QC are also usually pretty good in cherry picking the best stuff to send out for approval so you usually only realise you've been stitched up (accidentally or deliberately) when stuff arrives

 Rayvon wrote:

Tavis75 wrote:


£20 gift voucher for the inconvenience though.

Bonus !

I must admit, you cannot fault their customer service.

Just their currency conversion rates.

The Cerastus will be on pre-order tomorrow and I can't wait!

I'm hoping they will be £20, but if as much as £25 I might push the boat out...

Anyone else getting them?

My store quoted me at £16 on pre order so should be about £20 normally

Ok, so that's the same price as Questoris Knights. I'm getting some for sure, but don't know if I will be getting them at launch.

How many will you guys field in a banner? I'm thinking maybe just 3 since that's where the ion shield benefits max out. Might have to split a box with a friend.