Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (now with 2nd wave pics!)

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**GiantSlingshot**

The Decapitator wrote:I lol'd at this, I wonder if it's going to upset even more people

799.M41 The End of Waaagh! 'Eadcrumpa

Bik Mek 'Eadcrumpa leads his Waaagh! to the newly awakened Tomb Eorld of Suranus. After initial skirmishes proved his still lethargic Necrons to be no match for the Orks. Lord Nepthk strikes a pact with 'Eadcrumpa. In exchange for several dozen functioning Doomsday cannons, 'Eadcrumpa agrees to leave Suranus and seek plunder elsewhere (whilst secretly resolving to return to Suranus at a later date). Three months later, when the Waaagh! descends on the agri world of Eden Prime, 'Eadcrumpa is unable to resist his urge to investigate the Doomsday cannons' systems. One breached containment core later and 'Eadcrumpa, his Waaagh! and the planet Eden Prime are erased from existence.

So my questions are this:

Does this count as flaming?
And how long until the first Necron/Ork bro-mance picture gets posted.

1-2-3......Go!

*Ducks*

Glad to see Mr. Ward has seen The 5th Element too.

**Sasori**

Conrad Turner wrote:
Swara wrote:

Deepstrike a couple monoliths and tele the spyders over and have 30 scarabs as well and keep making more! SPYDERS EVERYWHERE!

Sorry, But didn't I read that Wraiths, Spyders and Scarabs ARE NOT NECRONS and therefore CAN'T be teleported by a Mono?

Still, I can still see a point in taking the Stormlord.

You use his nightfight and Lightning for the first couple of turns to get into range and get everything else set up correctly. Less of a problem moving your Doomsday Arks if you can't see to shoot them anyway, and some of your opponent's squads get hit by lightning.

Once you are ready to strike, turn off the nightfight and hit your opponent hard with Doomsday Arks and the character who can take a Warscythe and take over opponent's vehicles. When your opponent starts grabbing handfulls of dice for his shooting phase, shut it down with a Solar Burst again.

May have a better chance of getting your scarabs into nom-nom range of his remaining vehicles without being told mid battle "But you can't doooo that!" and have to slog them over hte rest of the table.

Conrad, it was pointed out earlier in this thread, that they don't Get Reanimation protocols. Other than that, there is no rule saying what is, and is not a "Necron" So, those units can come through the Portal now.

**pretre**

GiantSlingshot wrote:
The Decapitator wrote:'Eadcrumpa is unable to resist his urge to investigate the Doomsday cannons' systems. One breached containment core later and 'Eadcrumpa, his Waaagh! and the planet Eden Prime are erased from existence.

Glad to see Mr. Ward has seen The 5th Element too.

Oh yeah, forgot that no one had ever had the idea of curiousity killing the cat before 5th Element.

**Swara**

Conrad Turner wrote:
Swara wrote:

Deepstrike a couple monoliths and tele the spyders over and have 30 scarabs as well and keep making more! SPYDERS EVERYWHERE!

Sorry, But didn't I read that Wraiths, Spyders and Scarabs ARE NOT NECRONS and therefore CAN'T be teleported by a Mono?

Still, I can still see a point in taking the Stormlord.

You use his nightfight and Lightning for the first couple of turns to get into range and get everything else set up correctly. Less of a problem moving your Doomsday Arks if you can't see to shoot them anyway, and some of your opponent's squads get hit by lightning.

Once you are ready to strike, turn off the nightfight and hit your opponent hard with Doomsday Arks and the character who can take a Warscythe and take over opponent's vehicles. When your opponent starts grabbing handfulls of dice for his shooting phase, shut it down with a Solar Burst again.

May have a better chance of getting your scarabs into nom-nom range of his remaining vehicles without being told mid battle "But you can't doooo that!" and have to slog them over hte rest of the table.

I think the wording was it can transport non-vehicle friendlies. I'm going to lunch in a minute, I'll check then.

**Conrad Turner**

Sasori wrote:Conrad, it was pointed out earlier in this thread, that they don't Get Reanimation protocols. Other than that, there is no rule saying what is, and is not a "Necron" So, those units can come through the Portal now.

My mistake then. And I am glad to be wrong, although I am sure I also read that you can't use the portal to both deliver, and remove units in the same turn, so I think my priorities would be to DS, Str test or die the unit within range that had the most melta, shoot at the same unit if it passes or the next most dangerous unit if it is gone. I would only bring in scarab hoards/spyders if there was no unit in range to remove.

But then again, I have not played since 3rd edition, and certainly can't mathhammer, so this may not be the best way to do things.

**starship trooper**

porkuslime wrote:Oh probably.. I have traded with most BT members I think...

not germaine to THIS thread unless you happen to have Scarabs and Tomb Spiders for trade.. lol

anyone know if Tombe spyders are still in the dex?

**Sigvatr**

That reminds me of another point...are we allowed to chain-teleport now? Our 3rd edition codex explicitly said that we could not, what about now?

starship trooper wrote:

anyone know if Tombe spyders are still in the dex?

With all due respect, but if you just jump in here and do not even bother with looking on the first page of this thread, I do not feel like helping you out either.

**Lt. Coldfire**

starship trooper wrote:
porkuslime wrote:Oh probably.. I have traded with most BT members I think...

not germaine to THIS thread unless you happen to have Scarabs and Tomb Spiders for trade.. lol

anyone know if Tombe spyders are still in the dex?

Read the first page, but yes.

**Anpu-adom**

The Decapitator wrote:Canoptek Spyder: 50 Points per FOC
Can take up to 2 additional @ 50 each.

Can take Fabricator Claw Array: 10 points (CCW, fix vehicle/weapons)

Gloom Prism: 15 points (if an enemy unit is targeting it or friendly unit in 3" with psychic power, on a 4+ it is nullified).

Twin Linked Particle Beamer: 25 points (24" S6 AP5, Heavy 1 Blast)

The Gauss Flayer array is 5 Flayers able to target different units. 24" S4 AP5, Rapid Fire Gauss).

Why are the Tomb Spyder's ranged weapons so low on AP?

**Sasori**

starship trooper wrote:
porkuslime wrote:Oh probably.. I have traded with most BT members I think...

not germaine to THIS thread unless you happen to have Scarabs and Tomb Spiders for trade.. lol

anyone know if Tombe spyders are still in the dex?

Please read the first page before Asking questions.

But Yes, they are still in. Known as "Canoptek Spyders"

**starship trooper**

Sigvatr wrote:
With all due respect, but if you just jump in here and do not even bother with looking on the first page of this thread, I do not feel like helping you out either.

Its all good. No one said you had to help me out. Thats what LT. Coldfire is for!

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Read the first page, but yes.

Thanks man. And I'll do just that.

**SoulGazer**

The Decapitator wrote: Three months later, when the Waaagh! descends on the agri world of Eden Prime

Man, sucks that those guys survived being attacked by Sovereign and the Geth just to be blown up by stupid Orks. Life's a bitch, eh?

**Sasori**

Anpu-adom wrote:
The Decapitator wrote:Canoptek Spyder: 50 Points per FOC
Can take up to 2 additional @ 50 each.

Can take Fabricator Claw Array: 10 points (CCW, fix vehicle/weapons)

Gloom Prism: 15 points (if an enemy unit is targeting it or friendly unit in 3" with psychic power, on a 4+ it is nullified).

Twin Linked Particle Beamer: 25 points (24" S6 AP5, Heavy 1 Blast)

The Gauss Flayer array is 5 Flayers able to target different units. 24" S4 AP5, Rapid Fire Gauss).

Why are the Tomb Spyder's ranged weapons so low on AP?

Well, their purpose isn't really for ranged firepower. I'd take them for the scarab production, and cheap MC.

**GiantSlingshot**

Life's a bitch, then your entire planet gets sucked into a singularity. Pretty sure that's how the saying goes.

By the by, it's a mighty good thing for the Galaxy that the Necrons would prefer to Rule nowadays than destroy all life.

1 Doomsday Ark + 1 Warrior with a Bolt Cutter = -1 Planets.

SO much more efficient than Exterminatus.

**Sasori**

GiantSlingshot wrote:Life's a bitch, then your entire planet gets sucked into a singularity. Pretty sure that's how the saying goes.

By the by, it's a mighty good thing for the Galaxy that the Necrons would prefer to Rule nowadays than destroy all life.

1 Doomsday Ark + 1 Warrior with a Bolt Cutter = -1 Planets.

SO much more efficient than Exterminatus.

There is some fluff, about the "Celestial Orrey" that has a light for every star in the Galaxy. If they snuff the light out, the star follows shortly after.

So, they pretty much have the Ultimate weapon in the Galaxy. To bad it's in control of some Hippie Necrons.

**aboytervigon**

I heard a rumour that Imotek could take can upgrade called blood scarabs, and if he put them on a unit Flayed ones could deepstrike and not scatter within 6" is it true?

**woodbok**

aboytervigon wrote:I heard a rumour that Imotek could take can upgrade called blood scarabs, and if he put them on a unit Flayed ones could deepstrike and not scatter within 6" is it true?

Read the first page.

**azazel the cat**

raknosha wrote:I'm just gonna drop a last thing about destroyers their gauss cannons are only 24" it took me a few to get past that yesterday. Th H. Gauss cannon is still 36"

Wait... what?

When did the Destroyer's guns drop to 24" range? Can anyone with a codex confirm this?

**hollowmirror**

Maybe it's just me but I'm seriously happy about the spyders getting that blast weapon. It's sounding really great to be able to throw those 3 blast's at the enemy from our monstrous creatures. Plus they got some help with a slightly higher ballistic's skill now.

**The Metal Tide**

azazel the cat wrote:
raknosha wrote:I'm just gonna drop a last thing about destroyers their gauss cannons are only 24" it took me a few to get past that yesterday. Th H. Gauss cannon is still 36"

Wait... what?

When did the Destroyer's guns drop to 24" range? Can anyone with a codex confirm this?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Oh this cant be true. I don't want to accept that it is true. Please tell me that this was someones idea of a cruel trick and that they are still 36"

**azazel the cat**

If that is true, then I don't think anything other than the Doomsday Ark can shoot beyond 24"

**Sigvatr**

azazel the cat wrote:If that is true, then I don't think anything other than the Doomsday Ark can shoot beyond 24"

Command / Annihiliation Barge.

**Lt. Coldfire**

azazel the cat wrote:If that is true, then I don't think anything other than the Doomsday Ark can shoot beyond 24"

Heavy Gauss cannon and Tachyon Arrow if you want to count it =P

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Sigvatr wrote:
azazel the cat wrote:If that is true, then I don't think anything other than the Doomsday Ark can shoot beyond 24"

Command / Annihiliation Barge.

I thought all Tesla weapons were 24"?

**Philld77**

aboytervigon wrote:I heard a rumour that Imotek could take can upgrade called blood scarabs, and if he put them on a unit Flayed ones could deepstrike and not scatter within 6" is it true?

Well you could read the Bat Rep in WD but I'll just say that's correct.

**Fan67**

I really hope the lack of armor denying weapons amog special characters caused by 6ed rules. May be the armor save will be reduced by the strenght of the attacker, like in FB?

Because I cannot come up with any other reasonable explanation...

**motorhead1945**

Fluff: Is there any indication that our "shot-dead" Necrons who failed their RP save are "dematerializing" and the parts are teleported to a secret facility? Same with shot down vehicles...

It was one of the great fluff parts I liked: After the mindless horde of robots has been destroyed, there is nothing left of them.

**GiantSlingshot**

So, destroyers are now T5 JI, have 24" assault 2 Str 5 Ap 3 guns, and still cost 40 points.

I'm a bit disappointed. I wasn't planning on fielding them at this point anyway, but it they do seem pretty neutered.

Heavy's still seem pretty solid.

**Sigvatr**

Lt. Coldfire wrote:
I thought all Tesla weapons were 24"?

They can be equipped with Gauss Weapons that have a range of 36''.

**Lt. Coldfire**

Sigvatr wrote:
Lt. Coldfire wrote:
I thought all Tesla weapons were 24"?

They can be equipped with Gauss Weapons that have a range of 36''.

Confusion then. Raknosha says that a Gauss Cannon only has a range of 24", and page 1 says that the barge can be equipped with a Gauss Cannon and says that it has a range of 36".

Someone is trying to play the role of the deceiver here.

**Kevin949**

GiantSlingshot wrote:So, destroyers are now T5 JI, have 24" assault 2 Str 5 Ap 3 guns, and still cost 40 points.

I'm a bit disappointed. I wasn't planning on fielding them at this point anyway, but it they do seem pretty neutered.

Heavy's still seem pretty solid.

Still cost 40 points? As opposed to the move as jetbike (still can't move over 12" and shoot), T5 36" Str6 AP4 Heavy 3 at 50 points. Uh, I'll take the marine hole punchers over the "that's your heavy hitter?" squad any day. especially at 10 points cheaper.