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lokust2501 wrote:

 pretre wrote:
People might want to check out Tasty's latest post on bloodofkittens. It is enlightening.

Thanks for that. The 37 jpgs I just copied to my hard drive are filling the void that not receiving my army book yet has left.

Mine was in PDF format.

shade1313 wrote:

lokust2501 wrote:

 pretre wrote:
People might want to check out Tasty's latest post on bloodofkittens. It is enlightening.

Thanks for that. The 37 jpgs I just copied to my hard drive are filling the void that not receiving my army book yet has left.

I pick up my copy tomorrow, so I don't think I'm going to bother with more than looking them over on my browser...but it is interesting to note that allied CWE can't bring Warlocks with them. Same sort of wording that keeps me from using a Herald of Tzeentch as a cheap HQ to ally Daemons to my 1KSons.

I don't believe there's anything stopping you from using a single Tzeentch Herald in your allied detachment. You just can't get 4 Heralds in one slot.

undertow wrote:I don't believe there's anything stopping you from using a single Tzeentch Herald in your allied detachment. You just can't get 4 Heralds in one slot.

I'm sure you could get 4 Slaneesh one's though....

 Uriels_Flame wrote:

undertow wrote:I don't believe there's anything stopping you from using a single Tzeentch Herald in your allied detachment. You just can't get 4 Heralds in one slot.

I'm sure you could get 4 Slaneesh one's though....

Nicely done.

 undertow wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

lokust2501 wrote:

 pretre wrote:
People might want to check out Tasty's latest post on bloodofkittens. It is enlightening.

Thanks for that. The 37 jpgs I just copied to my hard drive are filling the void that not receiving my army book yet has left.

I pick up my copy tomorrow, so I don't think I'm going to bother with more than looking them over on my browser...but it is interesting to note that allied CWE can't bring Warlocks with them. Same sort of wording that keeps me from using a Herald of Tzeentch as a cheap HQ to ally Daemons to my 1KSons.

I don't believe there's anything stopping you from using a single Tzeentch Herald in your allied detachment. You just can't get 4 Heralds in one slot.

I don't know. The wording is awkward, and reads to me like taking up to four in one slot is the only way to take them, and only in a primary detachment.

Double post, waiting to see if it rectifies itself.

 Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:

 Enigma wrote:
Yes I know, and I must say that I agree with you on that one. The problem here is that half of it is "piloted" by the soul of the pilots dead sibling, just as if it was a wraithlord...

Probably they made it use T instead of Armour as it's far too easy to wreck vehicles in this ed.... and then it wouldn't sell -.-

But I agree, the knight should probably fall under the vehicle category.

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Yes, they are super heavy walkers... It feels as if we should get a new class of vehicle to represent these weird almost titans. like super-heavy light walker

Agreed =)

If they made it armor no one would want it

I really hope that orks BIG things isnt an armored unit lol


Funny thing is since it does have a pilot, I feel it should be a character and not the wraithlord.

I'd love to see them get a squigoth! damn that'd be awesome!

Thanks!

Seriously, I keep forgetting Karandas and the other Aspect heads have a 2+ Save. He is such a freaking full of angst bad space elf plus he gets stalker/back stabbing. Geesh.

Hemlock Fighter is 185pts too for possible fragile one trick wonder...

I was hoping for an Exodar update, but I suppose that will be one of those $50 updates...

Yeah, I'm finally going to be getting around to painting my Karandras. Need to figure out how to convert it, 'cause while he's a pretty badass model, the pose is still pretty bland.

I don't want to say the codex is bad, because I actually really like parts of it. But it's WIERD. Like, for instance, the fact that the Autarch can get Aspect wargear, but not aspect abilities. The random assignment of Warlock powers AFTER placing them into squads. The weapon problems the Knight has.

I think if I was going to be able to change one thing, I'd make it so that selecting a Phoenix Lord as a HQ would allow you to take two matching aspect warrior squads as troops. But then, I am a Biel-Tan player by nature.

I don't get the randomness of psychic powers at all, but then again, with me that goes way back to 3rd edition and the extra psychic powers that came out in Chapter Approved. They added some real fun to playing psykers, but my buddy and I immediately dispensed with the "random roll" feature and just chose which power we wanted for the 10 points apiece.

Quick wording question about Monofilament - just by the way it's written.

Does the first part have to happen for the other to take place?

Meaning- the target of the hit have to be Int 3 or less to gain the +1 Str - I understand that. But for the Auto AP 1 effect to take place on a Wound roll of a 6, does that also only affect the Int 3 or less model?

They're written in two different sentences, but lack of editing is making me question myself or if I'm just reading too much into it.

 pretre wrote:
People might want to check out Tasty's latest post on bloodofkittens. It is enlightening.

You sir are a scholar and a gentleman!

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Quick wording question about Monofilament - just by the way it's written.

Does the first part have to happen for the other to take place?

Meaning- the target of the hit have to be Int 3 or less to gain the +1 Str - I understand that. But for the Auto AP 1 effect to take place on a Wound roll of a 6, does that also only affect the Int 3 or less model?

They're written in two different sentences, but lack of editing is making me question myself or if I'm just reading too much into it.

You're reading too much into it.

Check the Shining Spears... I think they really 'shine' now

I LOVE YOU BLOOD OF KITTENS!

I've been gorging on this for a while and when I came to the psyker powers :O So much potential cheese! Fortune now effects dark eldar and tau, WOOT WOOT! The only way to get runes of battle into another army is through the spirit seer as allied general (only IC with access to it) but it could be interesting to see tau with a 3+ save and fearless, they'd be like blue marines with super guns! Also looks like the dire avenger exarch is a BEAST in challenges, usually over 50% chance to take away your opponents power weapon (disarm enemy) then you hit him with ap 2 at I which does bonesword insta death, if he lives his attacks will be against your 3+ armour! Eldrad is a beast MC slayer and the only eldar who can cast 2 big Runes of fate spells (which I'll be honest are kinda weird considering it has 3 times as many witchfires as runes of BATTLE, and some ganky blessing..but FORTUNE!) and with spiritlink maybe have room to cast guide aswell!

milo wrote:
I don't want to say the codex is bad, because I actually really like parts of it. But it's WIERD. Like, for instance, the fact that the Autarch can get Aspect wargear, but not aspect abilities.

I've seen many people complain about this, but it actually makes perfect sense. Autarch is an Eldar who has trained in many aspect paths, but is not an Exarch. Exarchs are locked in one path and can never leave it; they embody their path. It makes perfect sense that Autarchs can use aspect gear but don't have Exarch abilities. Autarch is not some sort of a super Exarch, that's Phoenix Lords.

milo wrote:
I don't want to say the codex is bad, because I actually really like parts of it. But it's WIERD. Like, for instance, the fact that the Autarch can get Aspect wargear, but not aspect abilities. The random assignment of Warlock powers AFTER placing them into squads. The weapon problems the Knight has.

I feel exactly the same way. There's a whole lot of "that's pretty cool, but..." in the book. Which is likely intentional, since nobody but Marines are allowed to be good at everything, but it's still a little vexing.

milo wrote:

I think if I was going to be able to change one thing, I'd make it so that selecting a Phoenix Lord as a HQ would allow you to take two matching aspect warrior squads as troops. But then, I am a Biel-Tan player by nature.

Emphasis mine, but I think you've already explained why we didn't get that sort of FOC shenanigans. We'll have a better idea when the Iyanden book is actually out, but at the moment it looks rather like GW is going to perhaps decide to hit up the big Craftworlds with their own books. Minimal rules, maximum fluff, but even minimal rules can seriously change the way an army plays.

While the basic codex can cover all the traditional bases, it still leaves them a lot of room to tweak the forces for the individual Craftworld books. So, Biel-tan could have a different FOC for Aspects; Alaitoc some unique scout/infiltration rules; Iyanden yet more wraithyness; Ulthwe could have better Warlocks/Seers/Guardians (though I don't know what they'd do to make Black Guardians any better than regular Guardians these days... Maybe +1 LD?) and Saim-Hann could have more jetbikes than your body has room for.

Besides, this way they can hit up Eldar players for another $50 for each variation they want to use.

 Miguelsan wrote:


And I forgot, if the point is selling new stuff why the HS slot is full to the brim with 8 units and there are only 4 in the Elite slot plus one that currently pointless (and one of those can be taken as troops) is there another army with such a melee in the HS slot?

8 is a tiny amount, try being Imperial Guard - 13 choices.

Well the rumors have been interesting and the leaked codex had me a bit gruff about some things but what really gets me is this.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440161a&prodId=prod2100002a

GW is offering a one click Saim-Hann deal. I actually thought I might order this except I would rather have 2 Fire Prisms than 1 and a Falcon, so I added up the cost of the individual units expecting to pay the same price and I was right both are $273.25. The only trouble with that is if I buy it all individually I get 3 Vipers not 2. So if you buy the GW one click deal they are basically screwing you out of $25.

So I guess I won't be building an Eldar army after all.

 Nicorex wrote:
Well the rumors have been interesting and the leaked codex had me a bit gruff about some things but what really gets me is this.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440161a&prodId=prod2100002a

GW is offering a one click Saim-Hann deal. I actually thought I might order this except I would rather have 2 Fire Prisms than 1 and a Falcon, so I added up the cost of the individual units expecting to pay the same price and I was right both are $273.25. The only trouble with that is if I buy it all individually I get 3 Vipers not 2. So if you buy the GW one click deal they are basically screwing you out of $25.

So I guess I won't be building an Eldar army after all.

Why not buy from an alternate source which almost universally sells for less than GW themselves?

If I was going to buy this I would order it from my FLGS. That wasnt my point.

I might be missing a rule somewhere... but the entry for Swooping Hawks has Herald of Victory and Skyleap... and they count as Jump Infantry.... does its say somewhere that they get Deepstrike?

gravitywell wrote:
I might be missing a rule somewhere... but the entry for Swooping Hawks has Herald of Victory and Skyleap... and they count as Jump Infantry.... does its say somewhere that they get Deepstrike?

Yes, the BRB under Jump Infantry.

@Gravitywell. Maybe because jump (anything) has it?

gravitywell wrote:
I might be missing a rule somewhere... but the entry for Swooping Hawks has Herald of Victory and Skyleap... and they count as Jump Infantry.... does its say somewhere that they get Deepstrike?

All Jump Infantry have Deep Strike.

So just to be clear, Eldrad's regaining warp charges basically just helps him cast more warp charge 2 powers, he can't cast the same power twice anymore, right?

 Carthuun wrote:

gravitywell wrote:
I might be missing a rule somewhere... but the entry for Swooping Hawks has Herald of Victory and Skyleap... and they count as Jump Infantry.... does its say somewhere that they get Deepstrike?

Yes, the BRB under Jump Infantry.

Thanks! New to the rulebook... so I thought that was just a reference not included in the rule.

Thank God for BOK, as my two local stores already out of stock though they don't go on sale until tomorrow. At least I have something to read through as much as possible. Store only got 4 copies though too. GW causing their own supply/demand through their store...

As annoyed as I am by some of this, I'm glad that I don't really have to spend more than 100 bucks to upgrade if I don't want to. Guardian Jetbikes and Dire avengers are so nasty, Fire Prisms seem better than before, and there are several options for me to just run with what I've got. Is it just me, or do they no longer have to link? I won't be buying the wraithknight or flyers, and will probably make do with scatter lasers, dark reapers, and aegis/allies for anti-air.

Well one MASSIVE thing that no one has pointed out (at least that I read). Doom kept it's old wording! As many people misquoted Doom is not "failed wounds may be rerolled" but rather just "to wound may be rerolled".

Yes, that means you can doom your target and reroll any shuriken non-6 on to wound , looking for more 6s.

I have a question, can a Farseer cast the same power twice if he has the amount of warp charge necessary?

I have not played 40k in months and still can't remember 6th edition rules.