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Heard through the grapevine that GW may re-release Advanced Heroquest as their 2013 Big Box game, but this was a he-said, she-said, knows-somebody who works for blahblahblah kinda thing. (ie, keep yer wallets in yer pants...)

My question to you folks who are more plugged in to the GW community: when does GW typically begin releasing hints and information on what their fall big box game might be?

And in the event I'm either totally wrong, or somewhat wrong, is there a thread here already speculating on the 2013 big box game that might have more information? A quick search came up with nada. Thanks!

Sound more like wishinglisting to me, but I have to say that I'd insta buy a new HeroQuest or Advanced HeroQuest edition.

Hints? Information? What are these? They certainly don't belong in a sentence with GW...

I would be surprised if this happened.

Surely, if they were going to do something in this vein then Warhammer Quest would be better all round?

Questions about rumors do not go in News and Rumors, amusingly enough.

Last we heard, it was Bloodbowl though.

I would totally get that. Think my wife would enjoy it too.

I would say no because that would fall outside the main three games and GW doesn't like to try new things anymore after Dreadfleet
probably some new game they'll make with space marines in it
if its anything at all

I can only dream, I'm pretty new to the miniatures scene (and boardgames in general) and Warhammer Quest looks sodding amazing! I'd have to wonder how faithful a remake (miniature count an' all that) it would be but with the inclusion of expansion packs further down the line to flesh it out a bit makes me think it could easily work like Soda Pop miniatures Super Dungeon Explore, GeeDub might find that option attractive in the long run, for obvious reasons. From what I understand this game has a rather cult following, Super Dungeon Explore is supposedly very popular too, there's an obvious demand for that kind of product.

I would dearly love to see more of GW's 'specialist' games, even if it is a boxed one off. Seems I missed that era :(

Take my money.

Blood Bowl please

If a one off release, I will accept 4 teams in the box (Human, Orc, Elf and Chaos) with a few star players.

What we will probably get is 22 players from a wacky variety of races and each game you have to "pick teams". GW, please take note that this approach would be rubbish.

I'd heard gorkamorka, then bloodbowl, now heroquest...


It would not surprise me if GW did dump out a special edition of some sort seeing how KS boardgames with minis have been doing,

but I don't think there'd be any leaks about it until much closer to launch,

and I really doubt they'd do anything that needed any followup support even if they did relaunch anything, it would be another special limited edition to sell out at once and be forgotten

Maybe after all 3 Hobbit movies and the licence have been and gone they might consider something ongoing, but not until then

 Rainbow Dash wrote:
I would say no because that would fall outside the main three games and GW doesn't like to try new things anymore after Dreadfleet
probably some new game they'll make with space marines in it
if its anything at all

If there really is a new box coming out this year again, then it's design work must have started before Dreadfleet was released.

At any rate, I doubt GW would be so easily discouraged.

yeah but also keep into factor GW doesn't seem to know or care whats big
it will be limited edition and even if it does sell, no one is gonna play it (not in store anyways, people just took the minis from space hulk after that was declared) so it will be a waste
they tried something new with Dreadfleet and it failed because well the price was too high for a one off board game, and you'd not be able to play it in the stores after it sold out
you can't have success in a board game like that if you make it limited edition

limited editions and remakes (ala monopoly) work because its a neat variation on an already popular game
but some random one off, no, what intensive do I or anyone really have to drop 150+ dollars on a board game I can't play at the store, has no support and will vanish so it won't have a large player base vs a board game like Super Dungeon Explore which has support, isn't limited edition and is cheaper
(yes there's no set store for that one but one would expect to be able to play a game you bought at GW at GW otherwise they're just overpriced shelf pieces and a neat looking table cloth)

 Scrub wrote:
I can only dream, I'm pretty new to the miniatures scene (and boardgames in general) and Warhammer Quest looks sodding amazing! I'd have to wonder how faithful a remake (miniature count an' all that) it would be but with the inclusion of expansion packs further down the line to flesh it out a bit makes me think it could easily work like Soda Pop miniatures Super Dungeon Explore, GeeDub might find that option attractive in the long run, for obvious reasons. From what I understand this game has a rather cult following, Super Dungeon Explore is supposedly very popular too, there's an obvious demand for that kind of product.

I would dearly love to see more of GW's 'specialist' games, even if it is a boxed one off. Seems I missed that era :(

Warhammer Quest was fantastic. Back when it was being supported White Dwarf used to have content for it - waterfront encounters, dealing with Chaos cults, additional items. They even had a series on bringing your characters into Warhammer itself.

If only GW decided to do more to support the specialist games that they've long since ignored.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I'd heard gorkamorka, then bloodbowl, now heroquest...


It would not surprise me if GW did dump out a special edition of some sort seeing how KS boardgames with minis have been doing,

but I don't think there'd be any leaks about it until much closer to launch,

Does anyone have any idea when they launch their big box games? I'm keen to know when I might hear more about whatever it is (and how cool would that be if AHQ, or even WHQ were "picked"?)

I missed Space hulk, and can't remember dreadfleet (though was one of the relatively few who was stoked about it... pretty funny, because though it's all nicely painted up, it hasn't yet been played!)

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Scrub wrote:
I can only dream, I'm pretty new to the miniatures scene (and boardgames in general) and Warhammer Quest looks sodding amazing! I'd have to wonder how faithful a remake (miniature count an' all that) it would be but with the inclusion of expansion packs further down the line to flesh it out a bit makes me think it could easily work like Soda Pop miniatures Super Dungeon Explore, GeeDub might find that option attractive in the long run, for obvious reasons. From what I understand this game has a rather cult following, Super Dungeon Explore is supposedly very popular too, there's an obvious demand for that kind of product.

I would dearly love to see more of GW's 'specialist' games, even if it is a boxed one off. Seems I missed that era :(

Warhammer Quest was fantastic. Back when it was being supported White Dwarf used to have content for it - waterfront encounters, dealing with Chaos cults, additional items. They even had a series on bringing your characters into Warhammer itself.

If only GW decided to do more to support the specialist games that they've long since ignored.

Holy gak!

GW sounded awesome back in the day, it's no wonder they've built up such a huge following! It's a bit sad though, realizing that they're are nothing like that these days, there's no way White Dwarf has ever been that useful as long as I've read it! Anyway, I'm not here to whinge but I genuinely hope that they sort something out, what you describe sounds just like the other good enthusiastic musings I've heard for this game too.

its not a bad game its just, well it came totally out of nowhere, was so unlike anything they had done, and was a limited run so couldn't build any player base
had it been allowed to stick around I think it could have done better

1.) GW never released Heroquest, so can't rerelease Heroquest. MB released it and I doubt they lost all rights on that game. GW released Warhammer Quest, also a really fun game a bit similar to Heroquest.
2.) FFG aquired the right to do boardgames of the GW IP, if those boardgames are not miniature centered. FFG does the game Descent, too similar to Warhammer Quest to do both. So I am not sure where the rights are for Warhammer Quest.
3.) GW made a big-box-release every two years, so there might be one this year. Bloodbowl might not qualify for that slot as it might be seen as a specialist game (that's what Harry thought). Hastings confirmed that there is a Bloodbowl box in the works, but we haven't heard anything about it for a year. Personally, I don't need a Bloodbowl box, as there are so excellent teams and playing mats by other companies plus the established rules that are supposedly not changing.
4.) I haven't heard anything about a Warhammer Quest box except wishlisting, including my wshlisting. But knowing GW, they would again botch the chance and make it a super expensive limited release with stock lasting for 2 days, so that it can't attract new customers.

Bloodbowl be damned! I want Battlefleet Gothic!

For me Warhammer Quest would make sense but I can't see them giving it the support it would need long term. They could do it as direct only as they already sell the vast majority of models (monsters) which they could easily bundle together to represent the different battle levels. They could release single plastic adventurer kits (or else finecast) as well. It would be a good move given the popularity of dungeon crawlers - for all these reasons I doubt it

I'd buy it if they updated it in a similar fashion as Space Hulk - it could be endlessly expandable but I feel GW doesn't have the business savvy to see it through.

I don't think Fantasy Flight have the rights to it - as it's a game with miniatures. I emailed them way back about it and they said while they have the rights to Fury of Dracula and the Horus Heresy they do not have the rights to any games with miniatures - such as Blood Bowl (the example they gave me) - so for me it's still GW who has the rights to it.

Who knows, given the tablet game on the horizon maybe there's a slim ray of hope but I wouldn't bet on it myself.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Bloodbowl be damned! I want Battlefleet Gothic!

It's there if you want it...

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=cat480005a&categoryId=6700003a§ion=&aId=21500018a

And only £15 for two basic ships. A bargain I say.

 Kroothawk wrote:
1.) GW never released Heroquest, so can't rerelease Heroquest. MB released it and I doubt they lost all rights on that game. GW released Warhammer Quest, also a really fun game a bit similar to Heroquest.

Heroquest was a MB release, in partnership with GW.
Advanced Heroquest was a GW release.

 insaniak wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
1.) GW never released Heroquest, so can't rerelease Heroquest. MB released it and I doubt they lost all rights on that game. GW released Warhammer Quest, also a really fun game a bit similar to Heroquest.

Heroquest was a MB release, in partnership with GW.
Advanced Heroquest was a GW release.

Well done that man!

What 20 posts in and you're the first to cotton on to the title of the thread!

Advanced HQ wasn't that well played at the time but the later Warhammer.quest was.much more popular. That said like liked the former but never played the latter.

If anytging gw will make WQ; I don't see anyone touching Advanced HQ as if nothing else it suggests that there is a lesser Heroquest available (ref the "Madness of King George III").

I think a generic 'Dungeon Crawl' game using the WHFB setting seems a lot more likely than anything tied to an old release, if anything. 'Advanced' is probably scary to marketing types, as it implies customers might be missing something.

Would definitely be interested in this if they did re-release it, the originals were a lot of fun.

That being said, there are plenty of other alternatives out there - the D&D games, Descent has been newly re-released, plus no doubt more that I'm not aware of.

 Balance wrote:
I think a generic 'Dungeon Crawl' game using the WHFB setting seems a lot more likely than anything tied to an old release, if anything. 'Advanced' is probably scary to marketing types, as it implies customers might be missing something.

that implies GW understands how to market to anyone, or that they do besides giving it a generic grimdark name and putting too many skulls on it

 pretre wrote:
Questions about rumors do not go in News and Rumors, amusingly enough.

Last we heard, it was Bloodbowl though.

They gotta stick it to Mantic, Eh? How dare you do a fantasy sports ball game!

Bloodbowl is their most popular Specialist Game, I believe? So putting out new version would definitely make sense. OTOH, releasing it as a limited edition box would not.

Backfire wrote:
Bloodbowl is their most popular Specialist Game, I believe? So putting out new version would definitely make sense. OTOH, releasing it as a limited edition box would not.

I'd wager money its some weird never seen limited edition box rather then something smart like necromunda or blood bowl or BFG
and I am not the gambling type

Usually these one-offs come around August, just in time to get in to the Xmas market.

As for Dreadfleet, what were they thinking?