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To be honest, any time I see a points value over 750, it tells me that GW intends it as more of a show model than something they actually expect people to take to a competitive game. Are there any warscrolls that cost 750+ which regularly see the table in competitive play? Nagash is the only example I can think of.

Nagash is the only model with 750+ points, other than this new guy.

Isn't Archaon like 780? I haven't had much time to play since 2.0 came out. Forgotten all my point costs.

 EnTyme wrote:
Isn't Archaon like 780? I haven't had much time to play since 2.0 came out. Forgotten all my point costs.

He's 660 according to the General's Handbook 2018.

Ah. Forgot everything got cheaper. Let's drop that number to 600 then. I feel models over 600 are meant more for display (or just playing for fun) than competitive games.

But Archaon is competitive

 EnTyme wrote:
Ah. Forgot everything got cheaper. Let's drop that number to 600 then. I feel models over 600 are meant more for display (or just playing for fun) than competitive games.

I wish everything got cheaper...

Well there's only a handful oc models at 600+ and they are all at ldast competitive... Nagash is simply OP for showing up, Archaon can be exploited to be so, Alarielle is just good, etc.

Can anyone think of a 400+ point model that is not competitive?

 EnTyme wrote:
Ah. Forgot everything got cheaper. Let's drop that number to 600 then. I feel models over 600 are meant more for display (or just playing for fun) than competitive games.

Order
Alarielle - One of the most competitive choices for Sylvaneth
LConSD - Very good, just under the points. Still a great choice.

Death
Nagash- One of the most competitive models full stop, especially in realms.

Chaos
Archaon - Solid choice, was featuring in a lot of builds until a couple of changes. Still seen at most tournaments.
Dragon - No data yet, seem some cool lists but base size may limit him.

Destruction
Gordrak - technically under the points, but close. Hes another solid choice in an under performing faction.
Magma Dragon - 60 under, really very good, Has won tournaments.

So that's all the models around that mark. And all at least pretty good

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Well there's only two models at 600+ and they are both competitive... Nagash is simply OP for showing up, Archaon can be exploited to be so.

Can anyone think of a 400+ point model that is not competitive?

The Exalted GUO?

The Exalted Bloodthirster isn't great as well. That's close to 600 mark.

The Exalted KoS is one of the best units in the game at the moment however. so so good.

 Hanskrampf wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Well there's only two models at 600+ and they are both competitive... Nagash is simply OP for showing up, Archaon can be exploited to be so.

Can anyone think of a 400+ point model that is not competitive?

The Exalted GUO?

Ah, forgot about him. Yeah, pretty bad.

Not sure if this belongs in BL thread or the AoS thread, either would seem to work, I suppose.

When I first heard Gotrek was coming back, I was kind of apprehensive. But this looks to be awesome.




Looking forward to some more Fyreslayer action most of all, but each of the characters seem pretty intriguing.

Five disc set?
*checks BL site*
Four hours and 15 min I have a feeling there will be a fair few Start Collecting! Fyreslayers boxes sold on the back of this.

Edit - Whelp thats five CD's of shouty, semi naked Dwaven audio drama orderd

Ideal time for GW to surprise us with a few new Fyreslayers models or something

ewww - do not like. Should have left him battling demons for all eternity.

Check out this interview with David Guymer. https://www.trackofwords.com/2018/10/27/rapid-fire-david-guymer-talks-realmslayer/

 Overread wrote:
Ideal time for GW to surprise us with a few new Fyreslayers models or something

Yeah, They could really benefit from a larger range and an updated Battletome.

It would be nice to see more diversity in the army, an update to a battle tome would also be desirable. Wonder, if they'll be in the Christmas deals? Getting more Berserkers at a reasonable price is what is stopping me to commit to this army. Although I'm sure that's a problem DoK share as well.

I quite enjoy how much fantasy fiction is going to be released. The teasers from the audiobook sounded marvelous.

Back when Armies on Parade was on, one of the local GW staff members said he was thinking of starting a Fyreslayer army. That's usually a good sign something new is coming up for them. Although staff members swear blind that they don't know what's coming out, I think they know more than they let on.

Even if it's just a Gotrek model, that would be cool.

Marleymoo wrote:
Back when Armies on Parade was on, one of the local GW staff members said he was thinking of starting a Fyreslayer army. That's usually a good sign something new is coming up for them. Although staff members swear blind that they don't know what's coming out, I think they know more than they let on.

Even if it's just a Gotrek model, that would be cool.

They really don’t. GW store staff know as much as us about what’s coming out.

French Wargame Studio said in two of their videos that the fyreslayer battletome will be redone. But as I understood without new miniatures. They didn't give have a date.

GW store managers know very little in advance when it comes to releases, they are the very last in the company chain when it comes to a release. Many will know less than keen gamers as the managers won't be scouring the net for rumours and hints (of course many a rumour is either false or just based on good logic that it will happen "one day")

That said managers are not above using recent events to promote the game; and also most GW managers are one of the few shop level staff left who are genuinely keen on the product they sell. At least by and large the UK ones are - when you're down to one staff member and you typically are required to paint, teach, build and upkeep good quality tables etc.... then you've either got a lot of dedication for something you dislike, or you really love the hobby.

They don't know anything?

They clearly know how to decieve people into thinking they don't know anything...

An author edition at that: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/11/02/2nd-nov-a-tale-of-four-wordlords-chapter-1-sound-the-drumsgw-homepage-post-3/

Looks like we finally got new fleshounds too, can't wait to see the new characters in the box set

Video seems 100% Moonclan but is titled Destruction Rising.

Destruction (one of its armies) is next to be updated.

Dracoth miniatures look awesome.


Daemons are cool.

Ooooof, those Flesh Hounds are not that great, eh?

Why couldn't they let whoever handled the new-ish Stormcast cavalry do them?

what's wrong with them? They look like flesh hounds usually do, and like the one in the first AoS starter. Don't seem very controversial to me.