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I've been waiting for a new Tau codex for a while now, and now that it has finally arrived, I am worried that Fire Warriors will no longer be as potent as they were before, or that the Rail Gun might be nerfed significantly. What do you guys know or think about this?

The internal balance of the army will invariably change, but that is not always a bad thing. The army appears as though it will still be good (if not outright better), but you will more than likely need to make changes to old lists to keep them working. I have found over time that your best bet of enjoying the new book is to think of it as an entirely different army and approach it with as open a mind as you can. A fresh and optimistic viewpoint is your best friend right now. Nostalgia and notions of entitlement (as I have experienced with several book transitions) will only hinder you.

Regardless; good luck!

That was a very well written post, I can't add much that wasn't said better by nightwolf. Have an exalt.

I suspect that the army will become less 'mobile' than it has been, as it seems that fire warrior squads will benefit from being stationary, so will become more of a gunline. Same with the rumoured loss of multitrackers on our vehicles.

And rail guns being nerfd to s8 makeing them no better then ms and useless fron what i have read they have been overall nerfed so my tau will still stay on the shelf

Way too much is still unknown at this time to make any real judgement. Its still all just assumptions, hyperbole, and looking through rose colored glasses.

Will your current favorite army configuration play the same? Probably not. GW is infamous for changing units either by power or cost. Your current build could easily be pointed out of existence, or a particular favorite wargear configuration may no longer even be possible.

However, if your willing to flow with change and make a few changes to your list and even adjust your play style I think you will see the army be competitive.

I have found that the best players of any particular army are those that choose an army and stick with it. I rarely change my armies around because you just cant learn how to get he most out of a unit (any unit) if you don't run them a dozen or more times. The dice can just be too fickle between games, and what worked for one player, may not work for you.

Looks like overwatch is the name of the game, if we can ever get them to come near us. BS2 and every unit nearby firing too, looks like we've got our charge deterrent put right in, without actual melee units. I'm likely going to have 3-4 FW units with Pulse Acc. Drones (If they can take them) with Fireblades for each (That is, if the rumors about them functioning like haemonculus are true) w/ Broadside fire support. Yes I know about the nerf, but with any luck this could be a points decrease, allowing for more of them easier. with deepstriking suits + commander to blow tanks up and dance around absorbing fire.

frogy27 wrote:
And rail guns being nerfd to s8 makeing them no better then ms and useless fron what i have read they have been overall nerfed so my tau will still stay on the shelf

I wouldn't be so hasty to do this, from what I heard is that only broadside rail weapons are being brought to S8 with the option to upgrade back up to the S10 version, also the Hammerheard will retain it's S10 rail weapon. This is only my interpretation of all the rules rumors I have read, but along with the possible option of Skyfire gear for Broadside suits I'm optimistic.

 CrashCanuck wrote:

frogy27 wrote:
And rail guns being nerfd to s8 makeing them no better then ms and useless fron what i have read they have been overall nerfed so my tau will still stay on the shelf

I wouldn't be so hasty to do this, from what I heard is that only broadside rail weapons are being brought to S8 with the option to upgrade back up to the S10 version, also the Hammerheard will retain it's S10 rail weapon. This is only my interpretation of all the rules rumors I have read, but along with the possible option of Skyfire gear for Broadside suits I'm optimistic.

Ignore frogy, he's been spamming threads with doom and gloom lately without adding anything constructive whatsoever.

I dunno, but the new Tau codex looks OK for me. Yes, the FWs will suck (newsflash: they always did), but everything else will be cool. Like the new Missilesides (they are like the Terran Marauders in Starcraft 2), the flyers (without those stupid beams and the cockpit, they actually look kinda' cool), the Riptide and Darkstrider (his real name is El'Myamoto... how stupidly awesome is that ?). So yeah, I'm looking forward to finally get the 'dex and try it out.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 CrashCanuck wrote:

frogy27 wrote:
And rail guns being nerfd to s8 makeing them no better then ms and useless fron what i have read they have been overall nerfed so my tau will still stay on the shelf

I wouldn't be so hasty to do this, from what I heard is that only broadside rail weapons are being brought to S8 with the option to upgrade back up to the S10 version, also the Hammerheard will retain it's S10 rail weapon. This is only my interpretation of all the rules rumors I have read, but along with the possible option of Skyfire gear for Broadside suits I'm optimistic.

Ignore frogy, he's been spamming threads with doom and gloom lately without adding anything constructive whatsoever.

It's ironic he posts the word 'useless' so much.

Am saying that tau are any good any more



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And all stick to ther old dex

frogy27 wrote:
Am saying that tau are any good any more



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And all stick to ther old dex

Tau are still good? Huh, that goes contrary to what you've been saying.

Glad you've found a change of heart!

I mean tau are not any good with the new rules that nerf them. now they are just glorified ig.

The book isn't even out yet.

I would have thought that just about any book of a similar level to anything that's come out in the past few years would be good news for Tau. Even if it ends up like 5e Tyranids, that's STILL an improvement over the current Tau codex.

I got a nuff info off internet to make up mind that tau are not. any good and been super nurfed. all new codexs are not any good and all seen blah

 kronk wrote:
The book isn't even out yet.

Agreed. Until then, fingers crossed for them being balanced, etc etc!

 Melissia wrote:
I would have thought that just about any book of a similar level to anything that's come out in the past few years would be good news for Tau. Even if it ends up like 5e Tyranids, that's STILL an improvement over the current Tau codex.

I wouldn't wish anyone to get a codex like 5ed 'Nids ever.

Improvement my butt wheb rail guns get nerfd to no better then ms. and fw range nerfed to 24 and lack of any hw for fw is just done right wrong

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
I wouldn't wish anyone to get a codex like 5ed 'Nids ever.

Fifth edition Tyranids was a good, relatively balanced codex that caused a lot of people to whine because they were expecting something that was ridiculously overpowered and unbalanced.

Why do people allways do this with a new book? lol.
X or Y has been nerfed, they army is now junk!

If you really rely on a single thing in an entire army, may i suggest draigowing?

Granted, the railgun nerf rumor isnt the best of things to happen to them, but until the book is infront of you and you can see all of the changes, there is no point in really commenting.
Tons will be added or changed, because thats just how GW work.

Just wait for the book, ease up on the pointless "doom and gloom" comments and make your own mind up once the book hits.

Looks like lots of new toys, units and abilities are available for the Tau...........

The Tau codex benefited a lot from 6eds new rules, and I think that right now they are actually pretty good. At least, a lot better than they were in 5th.
And it's hard to judge as (like Kronk said) the codex isn't out yet. But I think that Tau are going to be a pretty powerful army... once people get used to not using broadside spam.

Am not geting new dex as from what i gather the are crap now

So without taking a look at it, without reading a review of it, without even waiting for it to be RELEASED... you're deciding you will never, ever get it?

And here I thought I was a freaking cynic, jegus.

Your still a cynic melissia
Read the guys previous posts and topics here, says alot


Also, in question about 6th giving them benefits, i think it has.
Overwatch alone has given them a nice edge, more so if rumors are true about joined fire in overwatch.

 Melissia wrote:
So without taking a look at it, without reading a review of it, without even waiting for it to be RELEASED... you're deciding you will never, ever get it?

And here I thought I was a freaking cynic, jegus.

Do a user search on Frogy27's posts and save yourself a lot of time...

Well, i'm a bit worried about the quality of the new codices. The ratio to release new 'dexes has increased and was actually what we players wanted. But larger quantity may mean less quality.

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